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avatar saved modern theatrical filmmaking. To hate this movie is to hate the Edison for inventing the light bulb and to further my point, still use the light bulb.

All you avatar haters surely watch movies. Say want you want about movie theatres and studios abuse of 3D, without it they wouldn't be around today.

Like Star Wars revamped a firing Hollywood in the 70s as did avatar in the 2000s. Now over 7 years have passed since its release and summer ticket sales are lower than ever. Perhaps all the hate and lack of respect for what a brilliant film avatar is and was are a part this?

A stretch it seems, I'm sure but look closer. Duncan jones (who basically said avatar was not good cause it was too predictable) just made a fairly big flop with war craft both critically and economicly. No, China isn't enough to save Warcraft. Warcraft sequel confirmed yet? No. Perhaps if Duncan jones (and others) had more respect for the film that allowed a Warcraft movie (and others) to be made, summer box offices would not be in the poor state they are today.

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It was ok.

Nothing to write home about.





Hitler! C'mon, I'll buy you a glass of lemonade.

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Edison for inventing the light bulb


http://i.imgur.com/4XDcwOv.jpg

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Alright the movie was stunning when it came out...
BUT

besides that aspect of this film you are left with super predictable story
one dimensional cliché characters
and mediocre and I dare to say "not good performances"

Action? cool

SFX? Cool


that´s it

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besides that aspect of this film you are left with super predictable story
one dimensional cliché characters
and mediocre and I dare to say "not good performances"



Agreed! The graphics/special effects were good. However, the story was not well done (for the reasons that you mentioned).

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Well it was told nicely but what was told is the problem for me

You could predict everything after couple of minutes and THAT is in my opinion bad

Cameron wrote this?
Man I´m sure sequel will be 100 times better because he´s the king of sequels :D

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Okay, so you just said that Warcraft was a flop, and then give Avatar credit not just for saving modern filmmaking, but also allowing a Warcraft movie to be made in the first place? What's your point, exactly? If anything, your "logic" dictates that Avatar is responsible for more garbage films to be made, which is a much better excuse for the decline in low ticket sales than "not enough people loved Avatar". At least Warcraft was entertaining from an ironic, "so bad it's almost good" standpoint. Avatar is just a special effects, CGI jerk-off celebration.

I'm gonna take your logic and apply it to something totally different. Your mother is a saint of a woman, a true beacon of hope for anyone who wants to do something good with their life. And if there were more rancid, disgusting whores out there like her, then we'd have even more idiots like you running around loosely constructing faulty theories based on almost nothing except for personal bias and a strong desire to be right about something for once in your life.

If that theoretical comparison offended you or made you upset or angry in anyway, then now you know what it's like to read nonsensical theories like the one you posted.

Anyways, I respect your opinion and you seem like a really cool person. God bless.

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OP makes an absurd argument using even more absurd reasoning. It's therefore fair to assume OP has no idea what he/she is talking about.
Let's see what his/her "argument" is: If you don't like Avatar you don't like movies, because if there was no 3D people wouldn't watch movies today. Ergo if you hate Avatar you must hate movies! Flawless logic!
No. It's a fallacious argument that doesn't even follow its own premises.

"Like Star Wars revamped a firing Hollywood in the 70. " Listen Hollywood was making great money and was breaking its own box office records in the 70's long before Star Wars came along. If you don't know this you don't deserve to call yourself a "film person".

"Perhaps all the hate and lack of respect for what a brilliant film avatar is and was are a part this? " You're really clutching at straws here. No, forget about that, you sir/miss are a wacko totally detached from reality. You have imposed your own biased perception as a template and then found "evidence" to support this, dare I say ludicrous, point of yours.

How old are you? 15? Word of advice. Never make such an argument in public. You'll rightfully be laughed at.

And Edison didn't invent the light bulb you ignoramus.

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Avatar is the greatest technical achievement in film history. Just like King Kong was in 1933. Have you ever seen that movie? Almost everything but Kong himself is unbearable to watch. Yet, all we hear about is how great and revolutionary that movie is.

People on these boards are way too preoccupied with what should go into a film like this, what kind of story is being told than actually concentrating on what is there. How much of a novelty it is that our hero is a paraplegic. How much of a novelty it is that Cameron successfully got the whole world to root for 10-foot-tall blue aliens in a fight against humanity.

Exactly what makes the acting and writing so bad? Where are these opinions coming from?

Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin.

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Avatar is the greatest technical achievement in film history. Just like King Kong was in 1933. Have you ever seen that movie? Almost everything but Kong himself is unbearable to watch. Yet, all we hear about is how great and revolutionary that movie is.


I share similar sentiments when it comes to Kong 33. While a game changer for cinema in the following decades and an overall adequate film, if you took away the revolutionary effects attached to it, there really isn't much else to the movie besides being a run-of-the-mill monster flick. Groundbreaking doesn't always equate to entertaining. I feel cinema lovers on IMDB and other similar sites are always pressured to hold it in such high esteem because of it's significance to cinema history.

When one really thinks about, Kong 33 isn't even that different from Avatar. People bash Avatar for practically being Dances with Wolves in Space (which is kind of true, not saying they're wrong nesscarily), but why does King Kong get a pass on being a rip-off of The Lost World? KK and TLW involve a group of exploerers traveling to an uncharted are of the Earth where prehistoric creatures still roam, a woman who develops an odd one sided intimate relationship with a native ape species from the area, and ends with the explorers brnging an inhabitant from the area to modern civilization, only for it to escape and cause havoc on a city until put down.

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Avatar haters see it for the hack it is because they seen it before...

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