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The Ending - Interpretations:


SPOILERS - The Ending


MY INTERPRETATION -

There are two Ting-yins at the end of the film. The one that we followed through the re-cycle world is the one that we see wake up at the end. The one in the study typing is wearing glasses, and through a flashback we can conclude that she is actually the first Ting-yin we see in the film, first seeing her at the conference. The trick would be to work out exactly when Ting-yin stops wearing glasses. Is it an important clue, or just a coincidence? The phone call at the end, of a baby crying, is her unborn daughter, Ting-yu trying to reach her. Why is she still lost, when we just saw her and and Ting-yin re-united?

I have two ideas about the end of the film:

A) When the Ting-yin at the end abandoned the story that we watched for most of the film, she effectively abandoned herself, and therefore her daughter Ting-yu was still forgotten. The phone call at the end was from Ting-yu, and having escaped, the abandoned Ting-yin was also there. The theory could just end there and be as simple as that, though I thought that possibly the ghost that had been present in the beginning of film had actually been the abandoned Ting-yin all along, or perhaps she had become another ghost, just like the one at the start of the film. Ting-yu warned her that if she herself left the re-cycle world at Transit it would make her into a wandering spirit, and therefore if Ting-yi had been abandoned, the same would happen to her. I think that the facial expression of the other Ting-yin is not that of recognition, but of horror, as she doesn't see herself standing at the stairs, but actually sees a faceless ghost.

If the ghost at the start was always the abandoned Ting-yin, and the phone calls were always from Ting-yu. This would make the journey through the re-cycle world a flashback of sorts, and make the film kind of wrap around .. and er .. re-cycle. This would fit the theme of the film, and the fact that the "ghosts" were instrumental is sending Ting-yin to the re-cycle world in the first place, from which she escaped, indicates that perhaps that the events in the film are a repeating and evolving cycle.

B) I think that possibly the daughter, Ting-Yu, was re-incarnated in some way at the end when Ting-yin pleaded with her to come back. Possibly the re-cycle world is actually an afterlife for all things, the gears of creation and re-creation. The Ting-yin shown at the end, and also at he conference at the beginning, is actually somehow, atleast part Ting-yu, and the Ting-yin that we see wake up, and who we followed through the re-cycle world, is the abandoned, and a wandering spirit of Ting-yin. This would also make the events in the re-cycle world a precede the haunting scenes at the beginning, making the film wrap around.

Perhaps the theory is far fetched, but the Ting-yin at the desk did say that she changed the story to be about reincarnation, though it still doesn't quite fit .. yet.

I dunno what do you think?

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NO,NO,It seems that you only get part of the movie.The ting-yin we saw in the re-cycle world is abandoned by the ting-yin who is wearing glasses we saw at the end.

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i have just watched the region 3 dvd which miraculously and somewhat fortuitously has a directors commentary with english subs. in the commentary they say that when the sinje without glasses wakes up and goes into the room where the other sinje is writing she overhears her saying that she has decided to discard the draft of the book she is writing. so the whole book goes away and everything post press conference in the movie is the story she has discarded, no glasses sinje simply being the abandoned character in the abandoned book. they say also that the rule of their story is that the abandoned would somehow return to another world or reality hence the reason that no glasses sinje come to meet her maker.

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I'm actually kind of glad that you posted this, if this is the Pang interpretation itself. I'm all for open interpretation, but this one left me a bit baffled (or lazy). I really like the ending now, but I wonder...what will the "abandoned" one do now?

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From the time she enters the spirit world until the time when everything freezes is the book that the original woman writes but then she decides it is too autobiographical and abandons the idea to start over. The abandoned spirit leaves the spirit world which as the little girl says means she has to wander the world as a spirit now, real girl talks to her editor and then sees spirit version and the movie ends.

Even without the abortion stuff the movie works just fine which is why it doesn't have nearly the agenda people seem to say it does. Movie wasn't great or anything but the story itself worked.

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I think when she gets off the elevator the "movie" of her new story begins. The ending of the "movie" of her new story ends when she meets the double of herself. Hence the fantasy world is the begginning of the new story /movie and ending when she meets herself and the movie end...
anyone can give a better description...

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I believe the logical (and somewhat obvious) interpretation is that after Ting-yin escapes into her creators world, the phone rings again, implying that the world that they are both now in is a creation itself by another person. Meaning that they are both in a "fictional" world, simply put.

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Heck, I just thought it was something done by the writers having practically any interpretation you could give to it, just for the interest or mystery's sake.

Ok, yeah I was dissappointed with the film which is just why I don't think they put that much thought into it.

However, I think I agree with director commentary, I mean, they obviously must know what they're talking about.

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well, headwound just explained the ending didn't s/he?
i tought the movie was brilliant!

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A synopsis I read online said the film is based around the concept of the "recycle" bin in a computer. I guess if all the stuff in the recycle bin took on a life of its own this is what it would look like.

I wonder where the hanged people came from?

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My wife and I were thinking the same thing.

I interpret it as the people that hung themselves were the ones that were there, but couldn't handle it anymore. They go to that place to hang themselves.

Or who knows, maybe that was part of one of the stories she threw away.

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Yeah the no glasses ting-yin has to be the abandoned character that the glasses ting-yin wrote about. Because also near the start of the film when she started seeing the ghost woman with the long hair, she actually took out pages from the bin telling of this part of the story which means that she was seeing this woman because she'd already abandoned it after a page. She took the story up again but the fact that she got rid of a few pages was enough for it to be effectively "abandoned".

The only part of the spirit world that I'm somewhat intrigued about is the fairground themed land. Besides the fact that this was where she first meets the old man, and the big wheel is a sort of "Cycle" (which fits the theme a bit), I don't know if that world was something she made up in a story earlier in her life or what. It was actually my favourite of all the locations, it seemed so eerie yet it wasn't explained what that part was all about.

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ok i think i get most of the end now after reading all your posts but the only thing im struggling with is the phone calls? who were they from?

"I dont know about angels, but its fear that gives men wings"

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Near the end, when she talks to her editor by phone, she comments that she has finished her novel but this is a new story about reincarnation. The reason she decided not to continue her previous story (with the abandoned character, or herself without glasses) is because she thinks it's too autobiographic. To finish that book would have been a way of facing all the ghosts from her past, but it's clear that she doesn't feel good with this writing and finally she chooses a solution more comfortable for her. The price is that the ghosts from her past still remain in her present. Only integrating the past bad experiences in her present life ("recycling" in another meaning of the word) she could stop this.

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Honestly, I'd like to give it a bit more of thought but I think i have come to the same conclusion as 'Kil_Killion' 1st posted... (Kudos to the elaboration of his/hers ideas, def help me come to the same conclusion)
But then, again, the whole 'reincarnation' theory might have something to it too...
Or not...



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