I put up a thread about this a few weeks ago, and there was some good discussion. Inexplicably, it has disappeared.
The starting point was -- Woody Allen is too good a filmmaker to need a narrator the way weak filmmakers need one. He knows very well how to "Show, don't tell". Yet, in this film, the annoyingly voiced narrator interrupted the film regularly, "telling". So, what does a narrator bring to the film that a film without a narrator would miss out on?
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I was going to say the same 'Show, Don't Tell' mantra.
An example of this was when one of the characters was supposed to have been studying for months in the library. The narrator had to tell us and nothing was shown other than a sillouette of her walking through some book stacks.
I found this to be very lazy storytelling and narrator wasn't there just to add flavour he was there to explain what was happening.
I feel, alas, that the direction was inspired by a bad episode of Sex in the City.
I found that what the narrator added was a distinct measure of annoyance. As another poster already stated, good movies should SHOW us what they want to show us; lazy movies TELL us, via a narrator. This movie is clearly in the latter category.
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This is well argued. I have found it fascinating to read critics' reviews and find that some hated the narration while others considered it a genius element of the film. I am torn and can't decide! It was clearly not "just ok" because its unconventional nature demands that it be loved or hated, somehow.
I wonder if he was going for a sort of "Arrested Development" vibe. Anyone else see the parallel?
I wonder if he was going for a sort of "Arrested Development" vibe. Anyone else see the parallel?
Yes! I thought the exact same thing. The guy even sounded like Ron Howard. Everything in the narration was delivered in an earnest yet ironic or subtly snarky way.
Now I see the comment I responded to, saying it was "well argued" is "deleted by an administrator". I always assumed in the past when it said that that it used profanity, or was spam, or something. I don't remember the specifics of it but it seems strange that a post that I commented "well argued" to was deleted! Weird and kind of unsettling.
Hey there alan. Just a bit of information about the deletions by administrators for you. If a poster on any board says something that goes against policy, and is reported to the administration, they sometimes -- and often do -- wipe out that person's entire posting history, and don't look at each post individually for objectionable content. Every post that that person's has made in the past will have the "deleted by administrator" message.
Narration can quickly rattle off a bunch of backstory or reference that would be inconvenient and unneccesary to depict thru the action of the actors....
The Third Man, Goodfellas, Apocalypse Now, A Clockwork Orange, The Shawshank Redemption.... these are some of the finest films ever made, and all make some use of narration.
To me, the narrator is simply just another character... Heck, sometimes he's a character who actually appears in the film, while other times, he's only a voice whom we never see.... Regardless, he is there to further the plot point.
Films are an exibition. They tell a story... What difference does it make if part of the story is told to you while other parts are shown to you? Its all serving the greater purpose.
Goodfellas is one of my favorite narrated-film-epics. Two thumbs up on Goodfellas narration. It delivered the scenes with a punch that was perfection. I even like the freeze frame scenes with Henry's narration. However, I HATED Casino's narration. It's like shutup already.
I specifically reminded her - bedside table! On the Kangaroo!
I agree that Casino kinda of bastardized what they achieved in Goodfellas... It seemed more of a copout in the later film, and made it too derivative of Goodfellas. I think the DeNiro part was acceptable because it allows us to get in his mind, particuarly what he thinks of Ginger, but when Joe Pesci started talking too, it was too much. (not to mention Joe Pesci is dead by the end of the film, so who is he even talking to?)
Some of the funniest lines in this movie are by the needless narrator.
Like:
"Juan Antonio was friendly with all the whores and thought they would make wonderful subjects."
LOLOLOL How fun that must be for the whores to have Juan Antonio bring more American women to the red-light district for "art appreciation". LOL
However, I LOVED how Juan Antonio held Cristina in his arms laughing as she took pictures of the whores on the street. Hot damn. I'd like him to hold me that way - arms over mine and hands just above my crotch as he presses his body against mine while walking. My gosh, I'd melt in his arms.
I specifically reminded her - bedside table! On the Kangaroo!
i don't think the OP knows Woody Allen the way he claims he does. I'd say an overwhelming majority of his films contain narration. Thusly,,, how are you saying he's 'too good a film-maker to use narration'.... based on what? the one or 2 films where he doesn't use it, as compared to the majority of the times where he does?