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Ok, I'm going to say it...


I'm only four or five episodes into the series, but I have to admit, I'm incredibly annoyed by Stephanie's storylines. Stewart must have been relieved to get out of that contract when the show didn't renew.

Ok, I accept (not happily) the typical black gossipy sidekick role that we see on network TV when it's not an all-black cast, but do they have to throw those idiotic storylines in there to pretend that they're actually developing her character?

storyline 1: you met a great guy that is black and thought to hook us up but he likes you instead. i angrily ask if it was because he's black and then somehow i get over it?

storyline 2: men like women with long hair so I'll try on some wigs. then at the end of the episode i decide i'm ok the way I am?

It seems like these storylines are just thrown in as an afterthought. where is the rising action? what leads to the change at the end of the episode? usually shows can successfully handle multiple storylines at once; clearly these writers can't.

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Stephanie was just the 'best friend' character and, she was a supporting role and not one of the primary cast. What more would you like them to have done? These so-called "storylines" you mentioned weren't storylines at all, they were episodic plot points. The first you mentioned about the black guy who was more interested in PJ was dealt with a little more thoroughly than you're claiming. She asked PJ if she'd set them up because he was black and PJ clearly explained her reasons had nothing to do with race at all but merely because she thought he was a nice guy who PJ could actually get along with. She 'got over it' because she was more angry about the fact that he picked PJ rather than the fact that she suspected for a split second that it was a race issue. I mean...duh.


As far as the rest, her character developed just as much if not more than any of the other cast members. She went from a snotty, doctor-chasing shopaholic in massive debt who shied away from the group to a successful self-help author who ended up not only being a solid, supportive member of the circle but who also found she enjoyed things like poker and soccer and settled down with Kenny. If that's not character development I don't know what is.


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Crooked,

I'm a big fan of How I Met Your Mother and a big time viewer of other sitcoms. Consider even a single episode of HIMYM: they manage to intersect three or four storylines at once with complications and character development, while still staying true to character and the conventions of comedy writing. That's standard TV writing. I'm not saying the show is subtle and nuanced--it is a sitcom, after all, but they don't just throw in half-ass underdeveloped plotlines for convenience or just to take up space.

My Boys almost always has a single story line and then a secondary plot line that is just surface level plot with no actual character development. The worst storylines are those thrown at Stephanie, like some staff writer glossed over the headline of an Ebony magazine article without even bothering to read it when trying to come up with stories for her. Forget about motivation, backstory, or anything else.

Seriously, the cast did their best with what they had to work with--they're all talented actors--but I know sh*twriting when I can smell it.

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I'm not a fan of HIMYM so I can't speak to how well they interweave the character's storylines as anytime it's even been on around me it's been more or less background noise. I have, however seen enough of it to know it's hardly the very definition of perfection in sitcom writing.


What other characters developed to such a degree in this show? Bobby lost all his money yes, and started dating PJ but he never advanced in his career, didn't have issues that were slowly worked through throughout the series and we certainly didn't learn more about him personally. The only other person who showed any signs of true development was Mike and that only happened in like the final four episodes.

It would also appear you've got a terrible misconception about what plotlines are. Most of the character's "plotlines" were episodic and/or for the sake of comic relief. Mike is a manchild who lies a lot, Brenden is yet another manchild still reliving his glory days as a hip fratboy DJ and sleeps with a lot of dense college chicks and Kenny is a half Italian wannabe mobster. I mean really, what you you have liked them to do?

...like some staff writer glossed over the headline of an Ebony magazine article without even bothering to read it when trying to come up with stories for her.

Really? I mean...REALLY???

It seems to me like you've taken the most offense to Stephanie's blackness not being utilized or being poorly utilized. Her race was mentioned all of what, twice in the entire series and they certainly tried to shy away from the horrible overly 'sassy black girl' stereotypes. Ebony, really? What on earth makes you say that? And again I say, Stephanie WAS NOT a main character. The show was about a tomboy sports writer and her gang of male friends. It's called My Boys. Not My Boys...and my quirky gal-pal.

Hell to be honest, Stephanie developed even more than PJ did.

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Yeah, Crooked, that's my point. The characterizations are half-ass all around. And Stephanie's lines always amount to corny one-liners that have this strange racial tint. What I meant about the Ebony gloss is that the writers obviously didn't have even a basic understanding of the plot-lines and characterization that they threw in for her. So why bother if you're going to do a lazy job of it?

It's sort of obvious what purpose each of the male "buddy" characters serve in the story, but I'm still puzzling over Stephanie. I suppose it has something to do with asserting PJ's femininity and heterosexuality. But it could be done better. Period.

Even when I'm a fan of a show, I can admit when it's a little rough in some areas. Genre isn't an excuse for writing crap. You can create a compelling, interesting story within the conventions of the genre.

BTW, I can also say what's good about the show: the very idea of a show that focuses on a woman navigating the world of sports writing and the challenges of being a grownup version of a tomboy. Even the Chicago angle is cool (I'm a Chicago native).

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Then you were making the wrong comparison. Stephanie isn't a character out of a black sitcom BFF cliché. She was straight out of Sex and the City, trying to get P.J. to get more in touch with her feminine side. Granted, until she decided to hook up with Kenny, the changes they made to her were purely superficial, mainly focusing on her career. Now that wasn't the best, I'll concede, but to say she was always the victim of lazy writing doesn't really work. The relationship between Kenny and her (as evidenced in Addition by Subtraction) was a much longer one than we realized.

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i agree with crooked

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Stephanie is a token black for this show . what else can you expect ?

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