don't kill Dutch horror

Just guessing, since your name (Erwin) is also the first name of the director/writer.
Dutch horror might possibly be killed for the coming 10 years if "Doodeind" flops.
If the film is bad, or gets bad reviews, the odds that it flops are bigger.

If it flops....those darn investors get the idea that there is no audience for Dutch horror.
So....I have to say that I indeed rather have NO Dutch horror film, than one that is of poor quality.
What do we have so far (that I know of)
1. De Lift (outdated)
2. Intensive Care (never seen it, know it's reputation: very bad)
3. De Johnsons (remember from years ago that it's quite exciting in the beginning, but the ending is over the top).
4. Doodeind (saw it yesterday, did not like it. In a room with a diverse audience, but it got laughs from all for poor dialog and situations. The humor wasn't intended....I thought).

Well there were some (interresting) horrors in holland, like Amsterdamned, the Johnsons and the lift. but yeah nothing much.

I, personnaly, think this movie will suck ass as it is very (very) rare for dutchies to make a good movie. most actors we have either suck or get the f@$k out of here (Rutcher Hauer, Famke Jansen). also the fact is that it's probably a ripp-off too.
the only (future) dutch movie that actually has potential (I think) is Worst Case Scenario (though this is mainly because Brian Yusna will produce it and it'll be in English with English actors), but I think they are dead in the water now.

greetz,

Hey there, if u mean me,1) i've got no idea on how to tell if i've got private messages,2) i've been away on holiday,3) i don't go to these message boards alot. So there, but this is my reply to your previous post:

"Not only do I vividly remember you at the festival, I'm also working with the writer of 'Weekend'!"

Would that be Paul Bontenbal? Cause WE wrote the first versions of the script TOGETHER. That was more then a year ago and since then i've written more then three new script versions by my self. But he's a good writer so i would think that something good will come out of you working together with him.

"But, as I have said here before: no matter how little horror films we have in Holland, I would rather see none, than one badly made just to HAVE a new horror film. Don't go for quantity, go for quality. It doesn't matter if you really really love the genre, that doesn't make it better. Wasn't Ed Wood one of the biggest enthusiasts? Luckily, he was so bad, some of us (me included) love his work."

I dissagree completely with your first statement, it was NOT badly made. The Johnsons, Intensive care and Costa were badly made. Doodeind, allthough not very original in it's story (both character and plot), was in it's cinematic execution pretty good. The editing, music, cinematography(lighting and framing) were excellent.

"One of the things I noticed in "Doodeind", was that it takes scenes we know from Hollywood movies and stuff those together in one film. That's not just the problem with horror films, but with every genre film in Holland. Maybe that's why "Costa" is quite an amusing little film, it felt very Dutch.
And that's what I try to do with my work. I know the Hollywood rules.....apply them....and try to make my own story and scenes."

I would like to read your stuff (i don't mean that in a critical way - just curious). I've written three script now (all genre stuff) and find that it's bloody difficult to write something that works as a genre, works in Dutch and is still somewhat original. Costa i thought was crap (still better then Volle Maan). Allso if doodeind takes stuff from other movies, i think it mostly takes them from Chinese, japanese and Korean horror movies (more then Hollywood horror).

"With the screenplay Doodeind had, I'm not surprised it had difficulty getting money. In my opinion it's very bad. I read that in May the film "Worst case scenario" got money from the Dutch Filmfund for scriptdevelopment. I've only seen 'that' short clip of the film and loved it. It looked: original."

The screeplay of Doodeind wasn't the same as the film. We had to cut and simplify a lot due to budget. As much as i honestly like the movie, i thought the script was better. The movie did not have much difficulty in getting the money they shot the movie with. it was a low budget because they didn't want to spend years and years in waiting for the money to make it exactly as they wanted it, as with the boys of "Worst Case". They didn't apply for money from the dutch filmfund witch is pretty revolutionary in itself. And as much as i liked the two short films made to raise money for "worst case", it didn't actually say anything about how the movie is going to be.

"I'm glad that everyone has a positive attitude and a drive to make films. Do keep it up, but set your standards high. You don't need a big budget for that.
Good luck with "Weekend"."

My standards are very high, sometimes too high for my own good. I KNOW that making a movie is difficult, not to mention a good one, let alone a great one. But thanx and good luck to you too.

"DAMN ALL THESE REMAKES TO HELL!" - me

Sure, people should take the advice of a person who claims to have psychic powers.
And of course a person who is ever so kind in crushing peoples opinions when he doesn't agree with them.

I thought Dood Eind was an unoriginal, badly acted, boring horror movie. Jealousy hasn't got anything to do with it, not even close.