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Bianca was the loyal one. Screw the family.


Why was Bianca made out to be bad seed here. I thought the treatment of her was downright horrible in this movie. Please feel me.

For one, Roscoe knew who she was and what she was about. There was no confusion nor any hidden agenda on Biancas part. She was domineering, and bossy but loyal. She wasn't going to leave him. Didn't want to. And if RJ wasn't with it in the beginning he sure didn't show it.

Second, If she was considered somewhat of eccentric how bad could she have been compared to the rest of his family....Hmmm.

*You had the sister played by Mo'Nique who has sex with prisoners under the guise of bible studies and prison ministry. Whatever her day job is isn't revealed and if it was relevant, then it would have been said. Does she have a day job? She's quite boastful, and is hot for Clyde also. Clyde is the damn cousin.

This fact is quite ok with Grandpa Stevens. He has a daughter who engages in this type of behavior, which by the way isn't a secret to anyone in the family.
Thats ok. Let my daughter be a skank and bang inmates...Its ok. Let my daughter possibly go and have sex with Cousin Clyde its ok.

You also have cousin Reggie who can't keep stealing, scheming, and lusting after Bianca even though he has woman with him at the reunion.

Then you have Lucinda who arrives with Clyde under totally ambiguous terms.
Is she banging Clyde? Are they together? what gives? She couldn't come by herself?

She's oblivious to RJ lusting after her and claiming to have unfinished business and taking back whats his! Dude! you have a fiancee right there.

Bianca had every right to be pissed off and deny sexual favors. Whats so bad about questioning loyalty to a relationship when you are seeing it right in front of your face.

Bianca also knew his family wasn't worth a damn from the beginning. He was better off without them. He wasn't going to lose his mother because his mother did care...but she let go.

So what treatment she gets in the end? getting stranded at the airport and being called a bitch....For what? being loyal?

She was wronged!





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No she got her treatment at the end because she really was a selfish domineering b******. The way she was talking about his son when they were playing baseball and the snooty way she acted towards his family showed that she really only cared about getting her way.

I agree though that the family wasn't kind to rj and he would've had every right to stay away from them for another 9 years, but he was looking at it from the fact that his son had made a connection with them and she didn't care about that.

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She was domineering, but thats what RJ knew. It wasn't a surprise. If Jamal wanted a relationship with grandpa Jenkins he could have kept doing so.

Bianca stayed loyal and didn't give any indication of leaving or cheating. All she wanted was RJ...but for whatever reason she WAS staying put. If Jamal couldn't handle that, then so be it. He should stayed in Dry Springs with the rest of that dreadful family.

Now RJ is closer to his family...all of whom are jealous of his success and want nothing else than to drag him down to their level.

Furthermore, he never could have stood up to Bianca in a better fashion than to kick her to the curb like that. I realize that was for a comedy effect, but that was the easy way out. He'll realize soon enough that Lucinda has secrets also.

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True but he always loved Lucinda and she was more down to earth. You say that Bianca showed no signs of cheating but i do think she was enjoying that attention when his cousin Reggie (Mile Epps) kept hitting on her. That seemed just a tad suspicious to me.

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He loved Lucinda, but it was never depicted as more than a crush. Really there was no basis for him leaving his fiancee for a crush...That was bad. I really do think that Lucinda has skeletons in her closet...

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I don't totally agree with the OP, but I do agree with a lot of it.
I married into a southern family much like Ma and Pa Jenkins and I agree that all the wild behavior wouldn't fly - in front of their faces anyway.

I do think Bianca was wrong to not care enough about Roscoe's kid and she was way too bossy. But I didn't find her obnoxious behavior any worse than the family's obnoxious behavior. Why was their behavior ok but they felt justified in dissing hers?

There also seems to be a recurring theme in popular black movies like Tyler Perry's. Anyone daring to be anything other than stereotypical rib eatin' black folk is somehow flawed and wrong. It's disturbing.


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The only reasin Bianca was loyal was because of RJ's status. If RJ lost his show, Bianca would have ran off with someone else. She simply wanted power.

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he could have dumped her in a better way.
he showed his son a really bad example of how to treat women...

"I dont chase anyone who wont chase me back....BB"

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I also thought that Roscoe treated Bianca unfairly. Yes Bianca was superficial in way, but she was a celebrity and wanted success for herself AND Roscoe. I'm sure eventually she would have matured. Roscoe was no better himself. In fact Roscoe was one of the nastiest people at the reunion (aside from his sister). Roscoe talked down to pretty much everyone there.

Also Roscoe's family were a bunch of hypocrites. His dad was an uncaring moron who preferred his nephew over his own son. His mom was a loopy ditz and not a very strong force in the home which surprised me. His sister was a sex crazed, man hungry and vulgar witch. (Loved Mo'Nique in the part though) The only person in his family that had any sense and decency was his brother Otis, and Roscoe treated him like he was beneath him. Roscoe even went so far as to insult his children as being obese, but his own sister and dad were pretty large themselves.

Bianca never attacked any of Roscoe's relatives, she was actually very sweet and polite. She only made a nasty comment about cousin Clyde because he kept attacking Roscoe. But anytime Bianca made a comment the camera always showed closeups of his family disapproving, even though they were worse people than she was. It was also insulting at how Roscoe kept fawning over Lucinda in front of Bianca.

Again Bianca was superficial and a little immature, but she was actually not a bad person. She was a good match for Roscoe until they went back to his family's house. Sad thing is, it was HER idea.

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I agree with arazi25...Bianca was off her nut, but she was authentically herself and fiercely loyal. She was a good match for RJ Stephens: his philosophies were very much in line with hers. Roscoe Jenkins was someone she had never met or even heard of (excuse the preposition); she wasn't in a relationship with any aspect of Roscoe, because RJ had erased him entirely.

Also, it was logical for RJ to assume that Papa Jenkins would show no interst in his son, when the man had been continually treating him like garbage from grade schoiol on up to that present day. RJ extended himself many times to his father; Roscoe had been abused so much that RJ was necessary.

Being punked by older siblings and other family is not abnormal, but a purposefully distant father is. In my own life, I had a Clyde: an annoying cousin with unfortunate circumstances who was allowed to do whatever he wanted to ME because of those circumstances. My take on this issue follows thusly: yes, bad things happened to "Clyde", but they were not of my doing, and he shouldn't be allowed to behave like a little *beep* just because his mom couldn't keep him, and his daddy didn't love him; we could have actually bonded over the latter. Papa Jenkins was about three or four adults in my life; those who were distant, and those who allowed "Clyde" to disregard every rule that they had set up.

AND them were some thick-ass kids; those were some large pre-pubescent children. My little brother is 13 and well over six foot, and neither he nor my father get offended when someone is verbally astounded. AND no one wants to say this, but that kid was a whiny little cuss. How is it that a young active boy, couldn't scale the obstacle that those to middle-aged out of shape losers could.

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yes yes I agree

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"Why was Bianca made out to be bad seed here."


You have to understand the unwritten code of black movies. The character who has the most middle-class upbringing and speaks proper, is most self-reliant and not having roots to family is considered a "sell-out" negative character and must be suppressed. Black directors and screenwriters usually try to lampoon these characters and uplift the trifling characters like Reggie, Clyde and Betty because they think all black audiences would prefer to relate to them.

Dumping on the "boojhi" or "siddity" characters is a hallmark tradition of black movies because you know we're all supposed to be so "ghetto" and "geechie" or we're not truly black. SMDH!! *sarcasm*

What Lee should have done was try to make Bianca a more less negative character or at least made both RJ's family and her compromise a bit to welcome her in. It seemed unrealistic to just dump her at the end so RJ could be with a woman he never had a relationship with at all.

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I really agree with what you're saying. It irked me through the whole movie how Roscoe's family treated him, especially in favor of Clyde. Although, Bianca was a b*tch she was open and upfront about it and he had no problems with her being that way before. But she did snap on his son which I would have found to be unnacceptable.

If I was him, with the treatment he got from his Daddy, I probably wouldn't come home much either cause it was obvious he didn't get much love. Clyde shows up and everybody falls all over themselves even though Roscoe has did damn good for himself.

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I have family in the south I nave nothing to do with because of the way they treated me just because I got an education and moved out of the South. I am tired of black that think just because you speak well and want and education you are acting white.

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I got the feeling that the only reason she was with him was because he was famous. She treated the relationship more like a business partnership to help both of their careers than truly caring about him or his son. I can see that she wasn't an evil person, but when she pushed Roscoe to win that race instead of helping his son is when I stopped liking her. Also when Roscoe's cousin was trying to make peace she got up in his face to stop it.

The family could have treated him better but he needed to grow up and become a better man and father. I do see Rosco being in the wrong for trying to hook up with his crush while she was still there and they could have ended the breakup better.

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