Suffocatingly sweet- Awful Film - Vivah (2006) Discussion

[–] 17 years ago

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So so sorry... i beg to disagree... but perhaps this movie was just not your type.. from what i can see this movie was clearly made for the more romantic type of person... for the girls who spend their lives dreaming of Mr. Right.. well you may not have enjoyed it.. but i thougth it was fantastic... i happen to be a romance junkee and a bollywood junkee too.. and i actually saw this movie 5 times in a matter of 4 days.. this ofcourse may seem strange but it sure as hell ain't new for me.. i also saw fanaa in the cinema 3 times.. and dhoom 2 4 times.. there are few movies that i dont enjoy but even fewer that make me want to share my enjoyment with the world and tell everyone to watch VIVAH. the concept may be a bit unrealistic.. but i watch a movie to escape reality not relive it.. and i found this movie so enjoyable. and so so so sweet and cheesy and i loved every minute...they were so cute.. i mean you know all those shy moments.. making excuses about water and stuff... it was just so sweet.. so keep in mind.. just because you didnt enjoy it and just because you seem to have something against amrita doesn't mean we all aggre with your coments.. if you didnt like this movie take your comments else where this message board is for fans.. and if your not one then how is it that you can be bothered to post a message????

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[–] desiqt 17 years ago

Dristi I completely agree.
I thought it was a fantastic movie. Considering what we see these days, this movie was something that reflected our Indian culture and values. I saw the movie about 5-6 times and still watch it in bits and pieces. I guess people who prefer a bit of action/thriller/ with a very little touch of Indian culture would not like it. Yes the movie was a bitl unrealistic at times but still a very sweet, clean and something you can relate to. I would definitely say that people should watch it atleast once (even if it is to remember our culture and what the real India is).

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[–] sweetlvndr90 17 years ago

alright..i dont understand that exactly what part of the movie r u guyz refering to "unrealistic"...i believe upto a certain limit it is reality, in fact...

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[–] skategurl1102 17 years ago

"unrealistic"- It takes her less than 3 minutes to decide to to get married to a stranger. Now I don't think people can make up their minds that quickly & in the movie she hardly said a word to him & agrees to marry him. And if she suffered from 3rd degree burns she would have stayed in the hospital for more than a day or 2. She would have been in no condition to get out of bed.

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[–] ZAHID_SIEB_IQBAL 17 years ago

it took her 3 minutes to decide to marry her you said and somehow u found that hard to beleive. guess u never heard of the english term Love at first sight. it might be arranged but the feelings might have been their from the beginning that they knew they were meant to be together.

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[–] skategurl1102 17 years ago

"Love at 1st sight"- yeah you live in a dream world buddy.That's not enough for a marriage to last.If it was then there wouldn't be divorce.The whole idea of love at 1st sight is a very shallow statement.How can you love someone when you don't know them.That's not love-it's lust.Love takes time to develop.Remember that movie Shahid did w/Kareena,Fida,it focused on this very topic.He falls madly in love with her and she deceives and lies to him.Don't let looks fool you.I understand it's just a movie but it was just so silly how fast they got engaged.It's stupid.

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[–] sweetlvndr90 17 years ago

well maybe it took her 3 minutes to decide whether she should marry him or not, was because she already has gotten so many proposals b4, just like her uncle has said " no guy was right for her, from all the proposals already came" so maybe she thought....so far hes good, and if she does turns him down it may even take her entire life picking the PERFECT guy, which doesnt even exist in the "realistic world". And movies are mainly based on "unrealistic events" Thats why they r movies, or else they would be considered documentary's or biography's, or autobiography's, anywayz u guyz get the point. i dont know its just nice sometimes to escape reality, cuz dont u get enuff of " reality" in ur REAL lifes. Chao! <33

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[–] jazzybabes7 17 years ago

this film was a great film! regarding your comments on her being in hospital for only a day or two after the accident.. it was actually nearly 2 months she was in there..... :S
and although it seems that they decided to get engaged in a hurry... isn't it also the case that people still happen to get engaged to someone without even meeting them.....
anyways i thought it was an ace film, nice to see daughters being porrayed in a positive light rather than it all being about adarsh sons all the time..... and it really pulls on your heartstrings... give it a try people...

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[–] skategurl1102 17 years ago

"Isn't it also the case that people still happen to get engaged to someone without even meeting them....."

Maybe in some remote little village-but it's not typical.And those types of marriages are a sham.That should not happen.

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[–] f_n87 17 years ago

"Maybe in some remote little village-but it's not typical.And those types of marriages are a sham.That should not happen."

Excuse me, who are you to make an ignorant statment like that? Ninety percent of my extended family had arranged marriages and we happen to live in a very modern lifestyle, not some 16th century village like you seem to think thank-u very much. You are rude to call marriages like that a sham, unless you have firsthand witnessed somebody whos life was ruined specifically because of an arranged marriage. Don't generalize.

Btw. In the movie, it is not love at first sight. They are attracted, and ever heard of first impressions (?) one conversation with someone is often enough to tell you whether its make or break (job interviews are a long time commitment, doesnt this apply there as well.) And its not like they're married a month after. They spend a lot of time together to build a relationship (which is the point of the movie, if you missed that) before their marriage. and to the comment about pollution in India....I'm sure there are more than a thousand beautiful places all over India...if a movie depcits the roads and ruins of India, people complain. If a movie depicts some of India's natural beauty (it wasn't even glamorized)then u have a problem. people nowdays, honestly.

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[–] skategurl1102 17 years ago

I was not trying to be rude to you & I'm sorry if I was.I don't think arranged marriages are silly.Most of my relatives have arranged mariages too.I think it's silly when you get engaged w/out even looking or knowing the person first.You gave the example of people having marriages like that.That happed probably in our grandparents generation.But just b/c it was like that back then it doesn't make it right.And I don't think you would get married (if you're not already) to some random person that your parents selected w/out getting to know & see them.

"In the movie, it is not love at first sight. They are attracted, and ever heard of first impressions (?) one conversation with someone is often enough to tell you whether its make or break (job interviews are a long time commitment, doesnt this apply there as well."

I never said it was love at 1st sight.I was responding to the person who said it was.And what coversation did they have before they got engaged.He came over to there house,Shahid did all the talking and they got engaged in 5 minutes.Don't you think it's wiser to get to know someone BEFORE you say yes rather than after.I'm not married.But I would like to get to know the guy 1st before I decide to say yes.I would like to know what I have in commom with him.It would be a mistake if I said yes before getting to know him-what if we're totally wrong for each other.Do you see my point.

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[–] mmahanpour1 17 years ago

i thought this movie was wodnerfull it may have gotten a bit too boring at a part or two but voerall this movie is veryy very good.. i am gladd to see movies liek thse still being made in the bollywood cinema with all these westernized wannabee movies like neal n Nikki annd others but this was wonderfull thwey are a great couple and it is just plain out and ROMATNIC..SO IF U ARENT THE ROMANTIC TYPE OF A PERSON I DONT THINK U SHOLD WHATC THIS ..Y UO MAY JUST CRITISIZE IT

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[–] drishtinanwani 17 years ago

100000% agreed.. it really really pulled at my heart strings..i made two of my CHINESE friends who understand ZERO HINDI watch it & they both cried too.. you could say that the story was a bit old fashioned but thts wt i loved about it.. tht is was a traditional story portraying traditional values. & its true that people are still having arranged marriages today so that part was not so unealistic... what ii found unrealistic was that he told her all his secrests the first time they met & was so open & honest about everything he thought she would need to know.. which lets face it.. guys do not do that... lol.. the love shown in this film was a very pure love it was a sweet love, different from the love shown in other films. it was so corny but thts wt i love about it.. i love corniness. lol..these are the kinds of films that give us such unreal expectations of desi men! lol..but oh well there is no harm in dreaming..

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[–] azukar 16 years ago

u dint like the movie cuz ur an idiot..

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[–] segara 16 years ago

I'm not against arranged marriage. When it's time, I wouldn't be opposed to having one myself. That wasn't the problem with this film. The problem was Barjatya's glorification of what he considers Indian sanskriti and this blind belief that being traditional will solve all our problems. It's the blind faith in patriarchy and the status quo.

Despite all that, I could still have tolerated this film if they had just given Amrita Rao some lines and not just had her staring at her feet. I wish she did something to show she had some feelings or thoughts running through her head. I can understand being shy and nervous around her future husband, but she was like that around EVERYONE.

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[–] Pineapple3000 14 years ago

I'm not against arranged marriage. When it's time, I wouldn't be opposed to having one myself. That wasn't the problem with this film. The problem was Barjatya's glorification of what he considers Indian sanskriti and this blind belief that being traditional will solve all our problems. It's the blind faith in patriarchy and the status quo.

I have to agree with Segara on this one. 99% of my family have had arranged marriages and they're happy with it. Arranged marriages aren't backward or forced as some people think, they're a part of our culture.

But of all the families I know, even the most traditional, and conservative ones didn't expect their children to marry complete strangers. Things like first impressions and initial attraction, may matter, but for a massive long-term commitment like marriage, it's important to at least talk to your potential spouse about things that matter to you; married life, your hopes, dreams, beliefs, opinions, etc.

I think the movie would have been A LOT better if they'd shown in some way Prem and Poonam getting to know each other before marriage too.

But overall, I liked the movie, it was sweet (some say too sweet) but still nice :)

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[–] dhrupatel15 15 years ago

exactly you said it correct, we have went into westernized world like crazy, we forgot our culture, religion, traditions that when a movie like VIvaah comes out, people like you look for Item Numbers and Skin show.

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[–] segara 15 years ago

Was that a reply to me? Because all I wanted was the girl to talk and how do extrapolate from that to Crazy Kiya Re (not that there's anything wrong with that either). I think the problem is you're confusing submission and lack of will with being traditional. Those two are not the same things. I'm traditional, but I also speak my mind and have opinions, something the character was sorely lacking.

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[–] SuperhumanChichi 15 years ago

I agree, this movie was a bit flawed. While I admit I did cry at one part and I thought it was an interesting concept (simple, but entertaining), I was disturbed by the fact that the girl says nothing and just "knows" that he is right. Why, because of his cute smile? Seems really shallow if you ask me. I also didn't like the way they depicted the "dark" sister as undesirable and Poonam as ideal just because of her lighter skin (to be honest, I don't blame the mother for being mad for that very reason). Also I feel as though the whole thing with the burns could have been done differently. I mean come on, she gets burned on her body, of course he'll still marry her it's not like he's going to see it unless she's naked or something (and chances are it'll be night time when/if she is naked). Now say if she had gotten burned on her face, would he have still married her? THAT would have made more sense. Oh well, that's Bollywood for you. Nothing but superficial b/s.

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[–] KartofflMuter 15 years ago

You seem to have missed th entire relationship between the sisters. What I found unrealistic was Rama's anger at Poonam. With a loving husband and 2 loving girls,what was her problem? I would have been happy to take her younger daughter with the dark skin and the happy attitude. Did she EVER speak nicely to her? No. She treated her just as badly. They have a personal friend who brings jewelry and wedding proposals and she has worries? Oh please. The stack of jewelry to divide in that almira would have been bigger than 2 miserable boxes. And as for a proposal for Rajni, don't tell me marrying into a family with millionaires for inlaws wouldn't help make it easier. As for love at first sight,I did. I saw someone,several times,and said to mysel-yes. That's the one. We went out for two years. We shared the same values, family backgounds,I.Q'.s, musical interests. We married. I got sick. He can't stand sick people. Sorry,that wasn't on the application.Oops.

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[–] hodie 14 years ago

I fell in love at first sight. But I just didn't realize it for a while. I just knew there was something special about him the second I saw him. We have been married more than 20 years now. It happens.

Btw, I loved both sisters. I just found this film charming.

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[–] hodie 14 years ago

You seem to have missed th entire relationship between the sisters. What I found unrealistic was Rama's anger at Poonam. With a loving husband and 2 loving girls,what was her problem? I would have been happy to take her younger daughter with the dark skin and the happy attitude.

Rama seemed to be one of those people who are always bitter about something. Her daughter Chhoti was my favorite character. She was happy, confident and good-natured, and seemed to be in no hurry to marry. So it seemed to me that Rama was making problems where there should not have been any.

I honestly didn't notice that she was much "darker" than Bitto, but then Indian society is not familiar to me. I am an American of Irish ancestry and *everyone* in Indian films is darker than I am! In fact, most people in American films are less pale than I am.

As for Poonam, that "docile cow" performed an act of extreme heroism to save her sister.

Honour thy parents. They were hip to the groove too once you know.

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[–] nirajkmr 14 years ago

This movie is cheesy no doubt... too many songs no doubt... but the values, the family bond, the obvious emotions shown but not expressed in words, the culture, the beauty of traditions, oh my! I loved it. I consider myself a very practical person but I was like crying on the goodness of family and that human bond, so beautifully represented.

What can I say, this movie brings about the feeling that everyone at heart is good as long as they behave like humans and have love.

After a long time I saw a "pure" traditional Indian and cultural representation in a movie and being an Indian I realized, what a beautiful culture/traditions we have!! I really wanted to be like the the characters in this movie, so full of values and love. I wish more movies alike this are made, which makes you feel human!

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[–] entertainme5 13 years ago

Men love a good chase!
Their first meeting, they did not become engaged. But it's perfectly understandable, at least to me, with Rao's behavior towards the guy she likes.

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