Why, why, why?


Why did this movie have to change so dramatically after the first twenty minutes? That first segment of the movie was terrifying, far more harrowing than anything I've seen recently (who here did not freak out at the scene on the train a mere two minutes in?). I like the apocalypse storyline but that didn't necessitate turning the movie into a standard slasher. This could have been one of the most unsettling horror movies made if it had developed along the lines of the first part. Please, please remake your own movie!

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Have to agree - the first 15 minutes were horrible (read: terrifying). I could barely stand to watch. That first train scene with the drawing - that premise would have made the most freaky, scary story.

But then it does turn into a more typical slasher. Still decent, but nothing matching the first part. (Except the one brief scene most of the way in with Sarah (religious girl), where the original images come into play, being equally freaky.)

It's almost as if the first part had nothing to do with the rest of the film!

First 15-20 min = 10/10.
Rest of the film 6/10.

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I agree also. First I must say I will have this film in my collection when it is for sale. Now, when they switched from demonic/ghost to human element it kinda of blew my movie high. I felt the humans were a bit more defeatable(hope that makes sense). With the demons/ghost I felt less hope. When the slashing began I felt, ok look at these cult goofs, I would beat their asses if they came at me with their Zelda blades. If they would have just played upon the demon fears a bit more it would be a solid 8.5/10 all the way through. As it stands because they took me out of demonic state of mind and put me in a flawed human mindframe I will give it a 7.5/10.

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i expected it to change but thought that when it did, the rest of the movie wouldnt live up to the start (like The Convent). but once the movie was done i thought it was incredible the whole way through. i didnt feel it was a typical slasher, and if it was then it was done much better than any other that come to mind. i think if the first 5 minutes was the whole movie, it would get old very fast and probbaly have to be a more slow paced/boring movie and maybe they didnt want that. i think it did relate with the rest of the movie, because it seems it all really WAS happening and thats the religous people werent just a bunch of crazies. so the drawings were real things from a higher being that these targets would normally just put off as if saying "oh come on thats not real, thats just stupid", which then comes back to attitude of the 2 main characters (boy,girl). there was a deleted scene showing them talking about horoscopes, and it shows off that mind set very well and i felt the beginning of that scene shouldve stayed in the movie.

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Yup same here.
Loved the psychological "silent hill/Jacob's Ladder-ish" beginning and bits at the end, but was very disappointed with the rest of the movie... Also acting of most actors was really bad at times.

barely a 5 out of 10

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The acting was atrocious at times. And I hated the way it ended. I don't always want to draw my own conclusions. I mean you showed up close & graphic gore, why not the same with the ending? I give a 6. A better ending would have gotten it a 7 or 8.


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Got to agree, the first 20 or so minutes were the best. Still I did enjoy the rest of it, and the idea that it was all orchestrated by demons to get us to kill each other so they could spawn in our place.

Anybody else notice that the cult members, especially those in the scenes outside, looked kinda like Hitler's SA?

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i dont get it ... what would you all have done with the rest of the movie while using the same beginning? if this is so disappointing then what would do it for you?

its about some deeper forces and these regular people who dont believe in deeper things and just live "normal" lives and have "normal" minds .. this deeper supernatural force influences the pictures and visions that we see in the beginning and then the rest is, like the other person said, orchestrated by the demonic supernatural forces and their goal is to get them all to kill eachother so the demons can spawn into our world. when all of this happens, it shows what the "normal" people are doing when caught up in the situation. there are many situations going on in the world at that time, but the movie shows us the situation down in that particular subway. for all of that i thought it was great and this movie came out of the blue for me so i was very surprised and pleased.

so if all you guys liked was the pictures and visions giving you a freakout the one or two times it happened, what would you have done with the rest of the movie following the scene where she gets the picture in her office?

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The initial bit on the train where she looked at the picture and it was the same then got attacked was really good and got my hopes unrealistically high.

By the time we got to the Asian girl rocking out on the train i knew i was about to ruin another evening thanks to idiot recommendations from poxy horror websites.

The most annoying bit is that it could have been good, the concept was fine and some of the effects were decent.

If john Carpenter had made this film 20 years ago it would have probably been excellent.

But it wasn't The weapons the cult used looked so cheap they were laughable, the rapist guy went to the quentin Tarantino school of *beep* acting.

The should have been lots more people having visions of demons, lots less of the stupid cult people.

Unless you are a fan of really crap films (like gutterballs and that chicken one) then avoid

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I couldn't disagree more with the slew of people who feel this movie either underachieved (and I'm not even going to address sdaveak47's post other than to say that he portrays himself to be an obnoxious, know-nothing-even-though-he-believes-otherwise prick) or was a "letdown." Why oh why do so many people closed-mindedly insist upon generally viewing the world (and movies in particular) in simplisticly absolute terms? End of the LIne TOWERS over most films this decade made under similar budgetary constraints. And not for nothing, but I'll stack my "horror film fan" credentials up against anyone posting on IMDB in defending it [EotL].

I'm the kind of guy who when it comes to movies - especially horror movies: a) doesn't make the mistake of attempting to compare apples with oranges, b) comes from the if-you-don't-have-anything-civil-to-say-about-a-work-then-shut-the-fvck-up school of criticism (as l don't get off on gleefully ripping a movie to shreds like so many hypercritical, pretentious *beep* who offer their unwanted opinions on these kinds of forums) and c) being a teacher, is willing and able to overlook flaws in works that show an obviously inspired effort on the part of the filmmaker(s).

With all that said, man, I enjoyed the hell out of End of the Line - enough for it to easily crack my definitive list of 100 top horror films of the 2000s. Watching EotL, I couldn't help but think that it delivered the kind of goods that the 1976 low-budget Larry Cohen thriller, GOD TOLD ME TO, simply could not. Maurice Devereaux has absolutely nothing to be ashamed of or to apologize for; EotL is a worthy addition to the horror genre and I look forward to Mr. Devereaux's follow-up effort.

7.5 out of 10





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Go take a sh*t in your mothers *beep* phishpeaks

If you liked this film then you're the prick, your attempt to suck up to the director in your other post was laughable (get you anywhere did it ? got a date yet ?)

The majority of people it seems agree with me, the film started with great potential but then completed failed to deliver.

The cult was just stupid and about as frightening as episode of goosebumps, or at best a very *beep* episode of doctor who.

The acting didn't even reach porno standards, the rapist and that cultleader women being especially bad.

If you enjoyed this film then thats cool, i suggest you search out gutterballs, as thats another low budget masterpiece, and by that i mean a complete heap of crap that only the retarded could enjoy.

ps *beep* you

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Damn. You're one [obviously] miserable bastard, ain'tcha? (That's a rhetorical question btw, chuckles.)

To the say the film "COMPLETELY failed to deliver," that the cult was "about as frightening as [an] episode of [sic] goosebumps," or that "the acting didn't even reach porno standards" simply confirms my initial impression of your textual persona, which I believe I pegged as "an obnoxious, know-nothing-even-though-he-believes-otherwise prick." It's pretty apparent that objectivity is something of an alien concept to you, so I won't even bother to explain why your hyperbolic posturing only serves to undermine any possible attempt on your part to establish a modicum of credibility in the eyes of someone who, quite frankly, knows better. So howsabout you run along now junior mint and go play in some traffic, eh?


Alright, that's it. I'm done feedin' this particular troll.

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The films sh*t and you're a twat.

I posted a comment agreeing with the OP, as did many other people.

And don't forget *beep* that you came in with the insults first, not me, then you dont like it and call me a troll.

Anyone who uses language like "textual persona" is obviously a complete nob.

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Perhaps he's a knob, but at least an intelligent one. As for you, sdaveak47: I believe that your lack of intelligence is what makes you the knob here. Move on...

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I agree that the first part of the movie was by far the best, and set up a false premise that the rest of the movie did not live up to.

Also agree they should remake their own movie, and this time have the rest of the movie stick to the original premise as shown in the first 5 minutes (or however long it was til the faceless monsters & teleporting monsters showed up).

The OP is spot-on with his analysis.

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I gotta disagree completely. There was nothing wrong with the 90 degree turn from the creepy to survival horror (not a slasher flick at all - Hallowe'en is a slasher flick). A little abrupt, but it worked for me.

I also liked the fact that in the end, the apocalypse was real, and they didn't wuss out on that

We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are. - Anais Nin

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Did anyone notice that Karen is still alive at the end? In the beginning of the movie, after the train scene, she was in the bathroom and there's a scar on her left shoulder, exactly where Patrick sliced her when he tried to rape her at the end.

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I have no idea what point the director was trying to make with this, but if it turned out Karen survived I'm not surprised because a dog was with her and if any creature on earth is making it to heaven it will be dogs. Without more context it's impossible to know what happened after the creature feature started with a minute left. Almost anything is a guess unless that scar was meant to show that normal people didnt suddenly have a creature explode out of their dead body. Personally I was disappointed with the quick end, and I generally enjoy movies that make you think about what happened.

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if the train scene at the beginning freaked you out, check out the movie "suicide club", it's about 50 times as disturbing!

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