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It seems a lot of people here...


Have a problem of differentiating between character and actor.

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Hollywood doesn't have "actors" any longer. They have types. With only a few exceptions, every actor and actress in Hollywood plays a type.

Strong but sensitive woman - Julia Roberts
Charming and mildly goofish rogue - George Clooney
Wacky but damaged protagonist - Jim Carrey
Loud-mouthed man-child - Will Ferrell
Smart-ass, book-savvy, ass-kicker - Nicholas Cage
Cunning, win-at-almost-any cost hero - Tom Cruise
Angry, bitter, anti-heroic hero - Christian Bale
Sexy, "smart" femme fatale - Scarlett Johannsen
Adorable, quick-witted post-adolescent girl - Ellen Page
Sweet, fun-loving, liberated girl - Drew Barrymore
Somewhat to very crazy, tortured soul - Leonardo Dicaprio
Sexy-as-hell, charming, dangerous, "Latin" loverman - Antonio Banderas
Screaming, angry African-American man - Samuel L. Jackson
Erudite, simmering, African-American anti-hero - Denzel Washington
Smart, possibly emotionally scarred African-American woman - Halle Berry
Fun-loving, breezy, carefree "chick" - Cameron Diaz
Occasionally intense, unpredictable, handsome mystery man - Brad Pitt
Sensitive, noisy Scotsman - Gerard Butler
Smart, misunderstood, emo lost-boy - Michael Cera
Screaming, wild-card authority figure - Al Pacino
Scary, intense, sarcastic loose cannon - Robert Deniro
Frighteningly wise, intense, well-spoken man of uncertain origin - Anthony Hopkins
Ultra-wise, godlike (or just plain God) - Morgan Freeman
Pretty, sassy teenage girl with great fashion sense
- Miranda Cosgrove/Miley Cyrus/Demi Lovato/Selena Gomez

So, while it would be interesting to see somebody from Hollywood take a chance and have Michael Cera play a savvy serial killer or Ellen Page play a struggling, sincere widow and single mother, or Samuel L. Jackson not scream his lines, it's rare that any producer would take bankable stars and have them not do the things that guarantee massive gross profits.

This is why it is no crime to not "differentiate" between actors and characters in this day and age.

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Did you really take your time to write that all out?!


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Yeah. I took five minutes to write that out.

But don't worry, if you pace yourself and take your time you will be able to read it all. Be sure to drink lots of water and stop to rest every few lines. Face your fear of reading anything longer than a Twitter-tweet or text message and you may yet join the ranks of the fully literate.

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lol. oh and thanks for the generalization! :)

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Re: Types
Hollywood films haven't much changed in this respect-
Humphrey Bogart generally played a type, as did Clark Gable, Cary Grant, Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart, Jimmy Cagney, etc.
Among women- same thing- Marilyn Monroe, Debbie Reynolds, Katherine Hepburn, Bette Davis, etc. etc.

Your list is grossly over-simplified and most of the people on it have roles that don't fit your very generic descriptions (african-american? roguish? handsome mystery man? I mean, come on.)
Typically actors are drawn to certain scripts and producers are drawn to past successes. It's not rocket science. It's the movies have always been made.

Ferris, I've noticed that you seem to have a bug up your ass about just about everything- are you just an unhappy person? Your demeaning answer to WTFKim seemed pretty unnecessary.

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Man! That's a lot of words. LMAO <3 that list.

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I disagree with your discription of Leonardo Decaprio. Titanic was obviously not him having a toture soul nor was Catch Me If You Can, nor is Aviation.

Halle Berry is half black and half white, so why not reconize the other half of her?

Denzel Washington wasn't anti-hero in The Great Debators nor in Remember the Titans.

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Aviator and Catch Me If You Can BOTH featured Dicaprio as tortured souls. Howard Hughes was one of the most tortured souls of the 20th century, what with his hearing loss, ruinous love life, persecution at the hands of the government and press, and debilitating germophobia. Frank Abagnale Jr. suffered from a massive case of "daddy doesn't love me" blues and spent what should have been the best years of his life always looking over his shoulder, waiting for the cops to finally arrest him.

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i disagree with the first sentence; everything else im completely clueless to.

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The rest was describing the characters he played in those two movies. Howard Hughes was his character in The Aviator and Frank Abagnale, Jr. was his character in Catch Me If You Can.

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you forgot to mention Benicio Del Toro

dark, intense,bad boy- Benicio :)

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LOL...that was actually a pretty good list of actors currently filling those character archetypes. xD


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Her "type" is established because of what she's done so far. She would have to be willing to break the "type" and do something daring to be anything else. Probably won't happen for at LEAST another eight to ten years.

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Actually, she did act in a different "type" of role a long time ago when she was a little girl. This was before she had major television roles or movie roles. She was in Barney. She was apparently in three episodes of the Barney television show, and in some Barney videos. I'm not commenting on whether or not Barney is a good show. I'm just saying the character on that show was not like some of the characters she now plays.

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