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Why are american soo ffended by this movie?


some Pro-westerns and ameicans are rly offended by this movie, i dont undertstand why. Before i have seen this movie, i heard alot about it and i quite frankly, level of anti-americanism was much lower than I expected.
Although i am from a christian society, it would be a prejudiced and one-sided attitude to call this movie unrealistic.
Yes, i didnt like it as a movie that much and it had fairly poor script but the messages given were not that bad. Also the many things we have seen in this movie were truths which we cannot deny.
It is not something new that jewish doctors are organ traders, just google it and you will approve its reality.
On the other hand, there were so many reports from iraqis telling that they had seen some corpse with missing organs int he hospital during 2005 - 2006.
Wehtever it is true or not, it has never been approved and yet we dont know how true it was.
American soldiers torturing iraqis and raping little girls are not something new or to deny becaus eof our lack of aability to make our judgements freely.
I am not sure if weeding ceremony was from a true stroy but it was just a part of the movie which i cant call ''anti-american'' but ''anti-war''.

now it is time for my pro-western brothers to wake up and see the truths.
USa is controled by Jewish lobby and bush and his crew are just the puppets of the show.
The american way of thinking is pressed by media, government and zionist.
who can say otherwisE?

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It is not something new that jewish doctors are organ traders


Perhaps you are referring to the organ trading scheme based out of Istanbul that had one Jewish doctor and multiple Muslim doctors involved? Or the Moldavian workers that were tricked into going to Turkey and then told they had to donate a kidney?

Organ trafficking is a worldwide problem but most "transplant tourism" takes place in Eastern Europe, India, Pakistan, and China not Israel.

now it is time for my pro-western brothers to wake up and see the truths.
USa is controled by Jewish lobby and bush and his crew are just the puppets of the show.
The american way of thinking is pressed by media, government and zionist.
who can say otherwisE?


Wow. You're not an anti-Semite.

You also haven't got a clue as to how the American political system works. It's incredibly layered and some of the most powerful congressmen and senators are from states that have few Jewish connections.

BTW presidents come and go but congressmen and senators (both state and national) can possibly stay for life.

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Good grief that was a funny rant. And here I thought it was the WASPs running the show. Except of course when there was that brief hiccup when the Pope was using Kennedy as a marionette. I think I'm gonna go watch 300 now and accept everything I see as fact.

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You went and ruined everything by talking about the Jewish lobby and zionism.

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I'm offended by your inability to spell "offended".

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Wow. Don't know where to start.

1) YOU DON'T KNOW IF THESE EVENTS HAPPENED (as you've said). If they were, then they were definitely evil, criminal acts that ANY human being regardless of faith or ethnicity would demonise. But until they are verified, you have no place saying whether it should be in a $10 million movie or not.

2) Jewish control in America? Newsflash, Jews are a minority in the US and are unfortunately also discriminated against in many sectors (even today). USA is a multicultural society, and if you wanted to point the finger, then it's White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants who run the country. Hell, Obama is neither white nor a Jew. I really don't know where these "Jews controlling America" conspiracy theories come from.

3) How can you possibly say this movie is not anti-American. It portrays American soldiers as sadistic thugs who harvest organs from children and shoot up weddings. If you truly knew a single American, they'd be equally disgusted as you are. This is so implausible it's insulting. There are rules of engagement, international laws as well as personal morality that holds every soldier accountable in a war zone.

YES, I KNOW THIS ISN'T ALWAYS THE CASE. And there are times when soldiers of ANY flag act wrongly. Yet if the crimes of Abu Ghraib blew up so spectacularly in international news just from a few pictures and videos, think about the reaction if ANY of the events of the film were proven true. Or how a person can possibly get away with gunning down civilians in a truck.

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Uh, hello? Jews constitute only 2% of the U.S. population, yet they own and/or control literally every major thing in America, from the government to the banks to the media:

The Federal Reserve, the IRS, News Corp, Viacom, Disney, Universal, Time Warner, the NBA, NHL, MLS, MLB, International Monetary Fund, the Federal Trade Commission, Sony, Google, Facebook, Starbucks, the fashion industry, the music industry, every film studio in Hollywood, etc.

Pretty much everything that makes big money. American pop culture is literally dictated by them. All the content given to Americans on just about every channel on TV belongs to them.

Don't forget that AIPAC is among the top three largest lobbying interest groups in the country. They have all the money in the world to get what they want. And everyone wonders why the U.S. always bows before nuclear Israel. Money talks!

I'm just telling the truth. It's all out there for you to find out yourself. You don't need to be anti-Semitic to tell the truth.


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If less than half of a percent of the world's population controls the world, they have obviously demonstrated their superiority.

Except that we don't control the world.

We are not part of a conspiracy.

I'd know if we were.

Of course... I'd still deny it.

Or did I just blow your mind...

But seriously, some people don't have a functioning *beep* sensor. If they were told that Jews harvest organs just to eat them, they'd believe it. If they were told that Jews were aliens, they'd believe it. I say we just throw it all together.

By the way, we also killed JFK, kill Christian babies to make delicious bread, caused the tsunami in Japan, made Rome fall, funded Battlefield Earth, invented AIDS, faked the Holocaust, were the inside people in 9/11, and made McDonald's unhealthy.

I cannot believe you saw through our plans.

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"Or how a person can possibly get away with gunning down civilians in a truck."

But it did happen in Afghanistan and the event was depicted in at least two other movies (one is documentary). The perpetrator wasn't punished.


E.

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The hood incident actually happened. And you know what? I hope some scrub Turk officer blew his brains out over it. Those *beep* those supposed allies of ours, wouldn't let us use their northern border with Iraq to send in the 4th ID, but had the nerve to send in their half-assed special forces (more like special ed) to *beep* with Kurds. They went in without notifying Coalition commanders and then expected us to do nothing when they were found to be counteracting operations in northern Iraq. All of these movies are nothing but revenge fantasies for a country with an identity crisis.

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Americans are too indoctrinated to believe their government is a benign watchdog preserving peace all over the world (by waging wars and pressuring dissident governments), that Jews are all innocent victims of paranoia and prejudice (and never did anything wrong during their entire history), that capitalism and "democracy" are the best political systems available (and that the corruption and inefficiency inherent to this system is irrelevant), that socialism is evil (even social-democracy, which is more or less the same system but with a higher living standard), that Muslems are all potential terrorists (even pacifist ones), etc. What do you expect from such an ignorant public?!?

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You're more clueless than a college student wearing a Che t-shirt while protesting against the Chinese presence in Tibet. Does it hurt being so stupid?

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To IlluSionS667:

Wow, you sound as well-informed as any skin-head or KKK member! I applaud you! You must be so proud of yourself. Remember the extremist credo: Never let the facts get in the way of hating and blaming someone else for all of your problems!

You sound like someone who only reads, watches, and listens to information that just completely reaffirms your own point of view.

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