We all know Fred Simmons just wasn't good enough to beat the Truck. But I think Fred's friend Mike could have beated the Truck. Or at least given him a better fight. Fred was all talk. Mike was obviously more skilled and probably a little bit unstable mentally. Which is a dangerous combo. Mike seemed like he came from the Cobra Kai dojo.
shareI think Fred would have won had they fought again, the first fight was pretty close to be honest; Chuck won because he did something totally unexpected and didn't use his martial arts skills, instead just charging fred.
Plus Fred had a eureka moment after sleeping off his bruises, and had the extra determination to win. Which resulted in him winning the event.
I honestley don't think Mike was anymore skilled than Fred, Fred was making a bunch of mistakes early on in the film because he had gotten sloppy and cocky; and Mike really lacked the motive to kick Chucks ass.
Gonna have to disagree here. Chuck won the fight that wasn't really that close. He was *beep* that day and had to battle the guy that caught him with his wife.
I think Mike was more skilled than Fred but I'm not sure if he could have taken on The Truck. Should make part 2 very interesting! Hollywood, are you reading this!?
We all know the Truck would of ran over that Karate Kid reject. There's no stopping the Truck, did you see his hand gestures?
shareI don't think Fred could beat The Truck in a fight but Fred is the true "King of the Demo" and he proved that at the end.
"Man, if I wanted to take tests, I would've been a boat captain."
Mike was more skilled. He was a 5th degree black belt compared to Fred's 4th degree black belt. Also this is the sweetest debate I have ever been a part of.
sharenobody can beat the truck.. not even GOD himself, nor chuck norris or bruce lee. the truck is as un touchable as a 16 year olds vagina to a boy over 18!
that being said i think the fight between the truck and fred was just a little too close to call ;)
"besides, the truck is the 6 time world kickboxing champion. Can bruce lee say that? No bruce lee is dead"
Great Debate. I think the way to handle this is to break down the matchup:
1. Chuck Wallace trains by Isometrics - Advantage Chuck
2. Chuck is an 8 year undefeated kickboxing champion and open sparring champion, Mike McAlister doesn't believe in belts and thus can't compete - Advantage Chuck
3. Mike is in the band Sexual Warriors whereas Chuck has starred in several "7 Rings of Pain" Movies. -Draw
4. Mike dropped the drummer from the band playing Chuck's party and Chuck did nothing.- Advantage Mike
5. There's a good chance Chuck is a pedophile, but there's also a good chance Mike is too. -Draw
6. Mike doesn't wear seat belts. -Advantage Mike
7. Chuck banged Fred Simmons wife, but lets face it, Mike probably has too. -Draw
8. Chuck easily handled two Ninjas during his demo - Advantage Chuck
9. Chuck lost to Fred Simmons in a skills contest - Advantage Mike
10. Both Mike and Chuck know how to party - Draw
Wow, a draw! I think the tie breaker would have to be age. I think it's clear that Mike is younger than Chuck. Chuck has done a bunch of 7 Rings of Pain movies and has been living Hollywood now for years. Mike is just coming into his prime. Let's be honest, Simmons looked way better than we expected in his fight with the truck, and actually beat him in that skills contest. I don't see him doing that against Mike.
I think in a fight between The Truck and McAlister today, Mike wins no contest. I think Chuck in his prime edges out McAlister in an epic fight.
Nah. I think if Mike actually took a punch he would take up a strategic defensive position up on the roof. He doesn't even believe in belts; why would he believe in pain?
share"one percent..."
shareTruck is clearly a massive abuser of cocaine and possibly other drugs too hence him needing the ten grand. I think Mike would have sexual warriored him to death. Fred should have won too but as someone said he was cocky and complacent.
sharePlease. Mike would smash seven rings of sh!t out of "The Truck".
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"The best fighter is someone who can adapt on any style. He kicks too good for a boxer, throws too good for a karate man, and punches too good for a judo man." - Bruce Lee
For anyone who's seen the deleted scenes would know that mike would've definitely thrashed the truck.
In the deleted scenes, he kills a guy with his bare hands by choking the guy out and snapping his neck. Then shows no emotion or remorse for it.
He's hardcore. Totally psycho and ruthless.
Chuck wouldn't be able to match him since he's mostly concerned about drugs, women and booze.
Mike on the other hand is a killer and fighting machine.