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History Repeats itself now with Ron Paul

posted 16 years ago by puppethead23
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Again the American People have a chance to stand up against a corrupt system. Every American has a chance to be heard and stand against the corrupt system we have. Dont wait to see another frustratingly sad documentary to come out a year later like this one. The Revolution today for Ron Paul is stronger than Ralph Naders, RP crosses all party lines bringing people together in their beliefs for once. Bringing the most agreeable platforms and issues to the most of Americans simply by following the Constitution and wanted to bring peace to the globe once again by trying another approach to Foreign Policy and introducing Austrian Economic Prinicals domestically to cure our economic, medical, and educational crises. For the latter two you can lookup two great 20/20 documentaries on Youtube called Sick in America and Stupid in America. RP spent the last 30 years consistently upholding his principals, his record is open to the public, and it shows he will continue to do so. These corporatist scumbags want non other that to STOP HIM FROM SPEAKING. Luckily RP is running as a Republican so they cannot exclude him from official debates. He has run 10 terms in Congress as a Republican, but he's a Libertarian Conservative unlike the NEO-Conservatives that have taken over both parties and keep increasing the size of government bring on more and more restrictions on individual rights, privacy, and ignoreing our borders and sovereignty. Don't let MSM, Special Interests, and Corporatism stop keep status quote lock step ignorance in Government. Stand up for all you believe America was Founded on. Just try.. let just a little of cynicism and apathy slip aside this election. Dont wait for all to be too late. We have a great chance once again to band together, end the war, boost our economy, education, get rid of the Central Banks, end the war on Drugs, and so many other forms of corruption in America through someone that really does exist OUTSIDE the special interes puppet controls. All the money you see RP making now is from us individuals, all the great ideas in his campaign come from us, not the campaign. WE are doing it because WE care. We need alot more though, for everyone to do their own thing to spread the word. to come up with their own ideas. Share your idea online in forums and everyone will help you do it! This movement is about us, and working together autonomously. Thanks for listening, and hope you'll look further into the Ron Paul Revolution and see how much we're doing for this man who actually has proven to deserve it. Thanks!

[–] eternalbadluckcharm 16 years ago

Really? Ron Paul? I think he should be in the debates...but, comparing Ron Paul to Ralph Nader shows little knowledge of politics. Other than their agreement on the Iraq War, Nader and Paul are very opposite ends of the political spetrum.

[–] dj_edd 16 years ago

Ron Paul and Ralph Nader actually have a lot of similarities. They both defend the constitution of the US and agree that the US has to end it's military esacapades around the world. Also, they both are standing up against the corporate interests tha control the US. Ron Paul, for example, never takes money from corporate interests, all his campaign was funded from real people. They both want an end to all the crap, but they obviously disagree with was should replace it and how it will be implemented. Nevertheless, I would love to see Ron Paul and ralph Nader together. They are both intelligent and honest, and the balance between them on the domestic front would help. In addition, their agreement on the wars and so on is very important since the US economy is being destroyed and the amount of money that would be saved from the US's empire would be billions and billions.

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[–] bowmankcmo 16 years ago

Actually, history repeats itself with ... Ralph Nader!

He's running again, and I'm glad.

I'm not willing to chance another 4-8 years of erosion of our U.S. Constitution by voting for him and stealing a vote away from the Democrats, but I think it is vital that we are moving in a direction to legitimize a third-party candidate.

Call me a fair-weather friend, I will only vote for a candidate I feel has an actual chance of winning, that said, I will support Nader up until a point I am certain he cannot win, and then I will vote for the so-called "Lesser of Two Evils". Because what has happened under George W. Bush has been disastrous for our nation, and I do not see such a fine line between the Democratic side and the Republican side as our friend Ralph Nader does. Surely they both cater to corporate special interests, but this is a product of our capitalist democracy, where dollar is the king, where money for the few will always trump the needs of the many. But as long as we belong to this system and are too apathetic to change it (it would take a revolution on scale with any huge historical revolution, and our citizenry are not enlightened enough to care about it to that degree ... yet ... for evidence, look at the numbers folks like Nader and Paul have been getting) ... I will always vote for the one who stands to progress the U.S. in a more healthy overall direction.

Do I blame Nader for Gore's loss in 2000? No. There were a million factors. But I do think Nader should have bowed out at the end and tipped his hat to Al Gore. Eight years of Al "Clean Up The World" Gore would have been far more progressive than eight years of George "Blow Up The World" Bush, and Nader then could have entered the arena in 2004 and/or 2008 with a much larger following, and a much larger circle of respect. I do think he tends to forget the short-term picture in lieu of the long-term picture, but I think he forgets that the short-term picture often leads to the long-term picture. Supreme Court justices, wars, erosions of freedoms, these all make it even harder to legitimize a third-party candidate every election term.

That said, my hat is eternally off to Ralph Nader, who is light-years ahead of the average American in terms of understanding the concept of democracy. He is a true patriot and hero.

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[–] Streetballa 16 years ago

To mention Ron Paul in the same breath as Ralph Nader is an insult to Ralph Nader.

What has Ron Paul done? His ideology is exactly the opposite of protecting consumer rights. He is a major pork barrel spender for corporate interests. He is a neoconfederate who doesn't support anything from the federal government, not because it is wrong, but because he doesn't like it.

The only thing Ron Paul has done is appeal to impressionable college kids and people's greed. That's all.

[–] dj_edd 15 years ago

the fact that you guys buy so much into this left-right paradigm shows that you have little understanding of the matters on which Ron Paul and Ralph Nader have stood for TOGETHER. Ron Paul differs greatly from the Republican status quo and the Democrats. he ran as a Libertarian before, and that's more where his ideals lie. This BS about you being better because you are a democrat is just that - BS! Obama is a Democrat and he's a *beep* sell-out, pro-war *beep*. Look who he's surrounded himself with and where his money comes from. Ron Paul actually stood up and got Ralph Nader and other third party candidates together and demanded to make the debates fair in order to get these guys heard. You are showing your own prejudice based on what team someone is on, rather than based on ideals, which is why the US is where it is today.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0yKL1NvDGt0
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aquLH7yAdWo

I really like Ralph Nader, don't get me wrong. but you people need to realise that these guys agree on far more on IMPORTANT issues than what they disagree on.

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[–] dryslimjim 15 years ago

Man, I'm so disappointed that you posted this and then exactly what we didn't want to happen... happened. In almost the exact same way that Nader was ousted of any kind of possibility at a debate w/ the Dem and Rep candidates... The Debate committee did the exact same thing to Ron Paul... He was in the media, and was interviewed all the time just like the dem and rep. pres. candidates and then once the debates started it was like he disappeared, simply vanished and no one even so much as talked about him after one of the pres. debates was over... truly sad.

[–] bek-12 13 years ago

UGH, that is a comparison I would not think to make. I do not think Ron Paul is another Ralph Nader.

[–] herzogvon 13 years ago

Now that we have had nearly a term of Obama and his continuation - or more accurately, escalation - of the Bush foreign policy and its unending wars, it would be interesting to hear what Ralph Nader has to offer in way of perspective. Even more enlightening might to learn just how Eric Alterman and the others who blamed Nader for all the nation's woes due to Ralph's being a "spoiler" would explain the last three plus years. Their bitterness supposedly stemmed from the Democrat's lost opportunity. Well, the Dems are now in power and it's business as usual on all fronts.