Cynthia McKinney just lost the 2006 primary

nah...i didn't miss most of that stuff
and it really doesn't change my opinion of her

as for the whole altercation with the capitol hill police is small potatoes, i really don't give a sh*t

as for israel, i agree with her
i'm not anti-semitic. but i believe the israeli government has done (and is doing) some very very bad things, and it makes me ashamed that my own US government is aiding and abbeting them.
people need to get it through their heads that criticism of israel does not equal anti-semitic.

you like barrack obama because he's nice and proper and you don't like mckinney because she's outrageous and makes people embarrassed.

well, good for her!
i admire her guts.
i admire the way she is outspoken.
i admire the way she stands up against all the evil in washington dc.
i admire the way she isn't afraid to say what she really thinks.
i admire her for standing up when no one else did.

Listen, I like Obama too. But for you to sit there and lecture me about why I should like him and not McKinney is like you telling me "I like Negroes, but only the Good negroes, the ones who do what we white people want and stay in their place"

I like Cynthia McKinney because she doesnt have to fit into the "good negro" stereotype.

She may have made some tactical mistakes and said some things she shouldn't have. She's only human.
I much prefer a politician who is honest than one who is a lying, cheating scoundrel (99% of the rest of politicians in washington)

Reading this board is liek being back in high school, only back then it was slightly more intelligent and you knew who you were talking to.

Int his little tit for tat game you've got going on, you've fogotten all about the subject you were discussing - American Blacout, the film, and Cynthia McKinney, not the infantile over use of the word 'troll'. C'MON people!!

On another note, why would any one WANT to ignore the fact that McKinney has spoken out against the Israeli occupation of Palestine? More people should be doing the same! It's time the anti-semetic card stopped getting played - you seem to have such a huge isue with the race card, how about you spread your love around?

After reading McKinney's website and many other articles about her, I have come to the conclusion that she is one of the bravest politicians today.

Oh, and just in case you wanted to know more about your cops in Capitol Hill, try going to this video - no, I don't think she should have hit anyone, but it's easy to understadn why she did it, after being targeted by particular officers on so many occasions. Your little tale is so one-sided. I hope this proves in some way enlightening for you, although I don't suppose it will.

http://americanblackout.gnn.tv/blogs/17243/Capitol_Hill_Police_Speak_Out_on_Racism_and_McKinney

Happy viewing.

Well "jeffislouie" if I were you I would research things before you speak about them. Almost every word you wrote is from our media's point of view. So how can accuse others of doing that? Our media is a joke, out of the top 50 countries in the world, our media was 41. Wake up. We have no real journalist left. We have 2 newspapers that are still "free", and 0 news channels. If you watch any news about america in america, and then avoid researching independant news groups, then you have no news. Anyone who quotes our media is an idiot im sorry to say.

As for your unfounded accusations, I would ask you to research yet again. Her so-called "altercation" with security was a complete farce. If you would research you would find that the contract for this movie American Blackout, was about to be bought by a major network. It was going to be played on tv, it was not created for a movie release. The week the deal was to be sign just so happened to be the week of the so-called "altercation". If you look even further you will find quotes in small local newpapers from people at the scene that the "altercation" was clearly staged, and provoked by the officers. I will not try to change your mind, but I will inform you that speaking about issues without researching makes you a worse person than her, even if all the things you said were true.

Knowledge is Power.... but more importantly Research is your Salvation!

As for Israel, I will not say too much. Fact is if you think Israel is "legally" occupying Palestine then you are fool, and once again have done no research. There occupation is no more legal than us being here in America. Ask any Indian you know how he feels about this issue. No matter how you see the Israel/Palestine issue, you have to understand so-called laws and treaties, and those say that Israel has rights to certain areas of the so-called "state of Israel" but not West Bank and Gaza. Yet still to this day, they are illegally occupied. Research this issue more to see the real history of the conflict.

As for her being invloved in the "nation of islam" and lumping them into a whole group that is what you say "anti-american". Well I'm not sure I should even justify your comment with a response. It is very easy to tell that you have done no research on things of which you are speaking. Once again I will redirect you too research and not listen to what your so-called "free press" say.

Funny you say your a black man, but you speak about her with such distain. You even go as far as to say that the other black leaders are avoiding her. This is the biggest false statement of all the ones you made. She is supported by almost all the real "african-american" politicians, not the puppets of which you are speaking. I call them puppets, just like they call you "sheeple", and you are a perfect example of a "sheep-people, or sheeple".

The good state of Georgia did vote for her to be elected, not to lose. LOL If you do research on her recent loss, you will find that people from 2 other districts came and voted in her run-off. Of all the so-called free elections that the documentary focuses on, the one that just passed was much worse. I will not bore you with facts about the so-called free election that just took place, but I will once again tell you to research for yourself. The facts were more clear in the coupt that took place in her last election than any part of the documentary.

You as a black american should feel more ashamed than anyone else, that in a country that constantly puts down minorities you follow suit without researching the issues on which your conspiring to advance. How can you do such a thing to your own people? That is much worse than the people who created the propoganda in the first place. This is just one of the many reasons minorities will continue to be stomped on. Until you and others like you wake up, this country will continue to stomp on you and not give one $#!T.

As for her having her own personal sercurity team, well if you actually spoke out against our government and tried to preserve our inalienable rights(i.e. the Military Act, which just removed habeas corpus rights, which intern removes your Bill of Rights) like she did, then you would need your own security also. LOL

Last but definitly not least, I agree with you about Mr. Obama representing with class, dignity, and inclusion. I find it to be yet another example of you not researching though, when I see that you said he represents his constituency. Mr. Obama himself would be offended to see that written about him. Please research about this great "african-american" before you speak about him, specially considering you are an "african-american" yourself, and it is clear that you like him. If you wish to speak or spread praise about someone, even they would say please research my views and opinions before doing so. Mr. Obama is a great man, and a man that I would vote for in '08, but I am not naive enough to believe every action he has taken is distinguished. Even he has admitted that he has said and done many things wrong since arriving on "The Hill", but for all his inadequacies he is still one of the better "citizens" on "the hill".

Oh yeah as a side note, the man that you praise, Mr. Obama, is actually a friend of Mrs. McKinney's, and has not avoided her or her policies.


Now that the "Military Act" has been passed, me and many of you posting on this webpage can now be declared "Enemy Combatants" just for sedition(i.e. speaking out against the administration). Which intern takes away our right to speedy trial and the right to know why we are being charged. Welcome to the fascist state now known as America formerly "The Land of The Free!". What a joke we have become. It is so sad to see. I leave you with some quotes from your for fathers:

"The jaws of power are always open to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing."

"There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty."

"Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak; and that it is doing God's service, when it is violating all His laws."

John Adams


"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist."

Winston Churchill, November 21, 1943


"I look upon an increase of the power of the State with the greatest fear, because although while apparently doing good by minimizing exploitation, it does the greatest harm to mankind by destroying individuality, which lies at the root of all progress. We know of so many cases where men have adopted trusteeship, but none where the State has really lived for the poor."

Mahatma Gandi


"In questions of power, then, let no more be said of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."

"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be."

"What has destroyed liberty and the rights of men in every government that has ever existed under the sun? The generalizing and concentrating of all cares and powers into one body."

"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground: That 'all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people' (10th Amendment). To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specifically drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible to any definition."

"An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens."

"It is a misnomer to call a government republican in which a branch of the supreme power[the judiciary] is independent of the nation."

"You seem...to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all Constitutional questions: a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. Theyhave, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps. ...And their power (is) the more dangerous, as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots."

"It is not by the consolidation, or concentration, of powers, but by their distribution that good government is effected."

Thomas Jefferson


Please America for your own sake, WAKE UP!!!

I just watched this documentary and it was well worth the watch. It is about time someone in Congress stood up and challenged some of the 911 dogma, and more importantly stood up to what the Zionists have done to this country, especially forcing the U.S. to send troops to die for Israel in Iraq.

As for "anti-Semitism" McKinney must be forgiven is she has become a bit sensitive and even paranoid given the vicious ADL orchestrated Zionist Jew attacks and lies on her reputation and physical attacks even knocking her down by JDL Jews who want to shut her up. It doesn't matter that she will leave politics. She has stood firm and come November 7th Congress will throw out the Republicans, politically castrate the Bush regime and all his Israel first Likudnik Neocon controllers.

Perhaps you missed the news items when New York Jews hand picked a pro Israel opponent to run against McKinney and then dumped millions of dollars to defeat her because of her brave stance on Israeli genocide against Palestinians. Perhaps you missed the dozens of daily death threats by Jews against McKinney and her staff including police actually arresting of the Jewish Defense League terrorist who physically assaulted members of McKinney's staff.

You Jeffislouis are an absolute joke who, because of your abject fanatical racism, has no business offering racist opinions on movies about black politicians. I've read over 100 or your stupid posts. You are merely a child troll who cannot even remember which identity or what lie you told last. In this thread you state: "As a black man, I am embarrassed by her behavior."

How do you reconcile your assertion that you are a black man with your statements that you are a Jew?

e.g. "I believe it because I choose to, but the lesson of the holocaust is that when push comes to shove, we are jews. Not british, or polish, or german, or american. I had a conversation with my grandfather (a survivor) last weekend.."

You see Jeffislouis, by your own admission you have it all wrong in everything you write. Your attitude and opinion of this movie should be that of a human being, perhaps culturally an American or Brit, but in essence a human being, not Jew a Christian a Moslem a Hindu. But all of your hundreds of posts come not from another human being but from an Israeli first Zionist Jew.

Aside from the fact that at least six other threads have simply dismissed you as a right wing neocon, black hater and gay hater, in at least four others you whiningly describe yourself as first and foremost a Jew. You mention repeatedly you are a Jew who has lost many family members in the "holocaust." A word of advice, perhaps you should stick to trolling more 911 and holocaust movie threads. But do try and get your stories straight about how many and which of your relatives got gassed in death camps, it is maddening trying to follow your conflicting stories.

Why is someone automatically branded as being anti-Semite when they don't support Israel and Israeli action? Last I checked, Israel was just a nation run by elected politicians and politics, unlike the word of God, change.

And, "as a black man," you seem far too eager to placate white and jewish authority for the nebulous privilege of "inclusion." For the rest of Americans that aren't as eager to gleefully place themselves beneath the heels of wayward and corrupt leaders, McKinney is far more admirable than your typical politician.

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In regards to the movie .. I found it well made and very informative . however , I also notice that this film was made one sided also and only a person after the absolute truth will research the topic at hand no matter what it is about and gather information from many different sources in order to draw a conclusion of what they percieve to be the truth.

remember the best lies have a hint of truth.

remember that old saying how can you help others if you can't even help yourself.

hell my father used to tell me that all the time..
and I beleive we need to take that kind of attitude with the way out country is ran.


the truth is we lost.
we are afraid.
down right scared.

i'm latino race but in america i don't even when people say what nationality are you I say American my parents are from such and such country but I 'm American
and I don't believe you need to be a super smart person to run this country
but a person who can stand up for what the people need and a person who comes from us . Us meaning the majority the middle to low end of the money scale.

but the truth is that history
tells us that such men will be killed and there families threatened because of what they stand for. so tell me how is that different from the way the extremest in Iraq take to the street and threaten us and say who ever we bring to power and say they will be brought down with violence when in this very country the moment someone starts speaking of better this or better that and WE START LISTENING ..

BAM

scandal hits , BAM tragedy hits, BAM he's dead