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(spoilers) Graphic violence


In one of the reviews here on IMDB, it talks of a scene that's '10x worse than American History X,' and I'm wondering what exactly it is that the reviewer's referring to. Thanks for helping me out.

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If you've seen American History X you will recall the scene (SPOILER if you havent seen it) where the guy has his teeth on the curb and Edward Norton stamps on his head... well there's a scene in Haze which is similar as it has to do with teeth and an open mouth. In American History X the pain in that scene is over and done with in a split second, well in Haze it goes on for a lot, lot longer!

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And in this scene i don't understand one thing:
Why could he not simply turn his face in the way that his head points in the direction he tries to move. I mean, why did he had to slide his teeth over this pipe? Did he had to grasp himself for not falling down, or did he had to place his mouth there because of the small space. But if its the small space, i cannot understand, why he did not simply turn his head? Any ideas?

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Yeah, I had a problem with that too. He would be able to turn his head. And that's not mentioning the question of how he got that way in the first place. (Surely by turning his head sideways into the bar?)


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Well I'm assuming he couldn't turn his head becuase he was crammed in there so tight, although I agree it seems he probably should have been able to turn it.

If you're asking "how" he got into that position, are you sure you understand the film properly?

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If you notice, the tunnel he is trapped in is very cramped and there appears to be some kind of glue-stuff stuck to the back of his head.

Great film by the way.

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how could the guy turn round with broken glass by his heels?

plus the corridors are not in a physical space, have u ever had a dream where cant do something the easy way?

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Good point. Every time I want to punch someone in a dream my arms move like I'm under water. Does this mean I have no confidence in myself, or maybe that I both do and don't want to punch the person? Perhaps my primal drive is in conflict with the civilizing brought on by society?

Anyhow, films that are bound to someone's memories or dreams certainly must be watched differently, and are more of an experience than a story because they don't really have to interact with the audience. They just are, and the director is freed from explaining anything, though there will always be those that will never see worth in such projects. Nightmares are something Tsukamoto does very well, I hope the style change in Nightmare Detective is only temporary.

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"it was all just a dream" is the biggest cop-out in story writing EVER --- very lazy and this film sucked in that respect

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If you're asking "how" he got into that position, are you sure you understand the film properly?
please explain

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