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Sincere Parable About Immigration LOL!


I can't wait to SKIP this!

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Why would you skip it? A society scapegoating and oppresing a minority segment of it's populace is nothing new(it's actually old as hell), nor is it isolated to the US.
Why do conservatives even have TV's, when you (allegedly) skip the majority of the content due to your thin skins.

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I don't watch trendy Y.A. sci fi, I watch good sci fi.

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Sports.

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Nothing wrong with doing a story that include immigration as it usually happens... but the show is so full of cliches and preachy snowflake crap that it kills the story. Being subtle on the racial crap might has allowed it to be a decent show... but as it stands it a bit like going to a church to have the preacher yell sinner at everyone non-stop for an hour... Give it a break and provide a story without the PC driven agenda. People are tired of hearing it, a show is supposed to be entertaining not a mind numbing experience in brainwashing.

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A society scapegoating and oppresing a minority segment of it's populace is nothing new

The problem is that minorities are not oppressed. It's white males the ones oppressed in modern western world.

And yeap, I know this is endless debate. But there's a very clear CLUE about who's really oppressed: in any relationship where both parts claim to be abused, the clue to know who's the abused one is to find who's the one that wants to LEAVE.

Right now, whites want to go on their own, they don't want any more diversity and multiculturality. On the other side, immigrants in western countries are the ones that doesn't want whites to go on their own. The diversity is forced on whites, not on migrants.

In South-Africa, a few years ago, blacks were claiming that whites were awful racists (as usual)... but at the same time, the black government was doing everything they could to PREVENT them from leaving, included, for example, reaching agreements with UK government that banned white South-Africans from migrating to UK.

Find who's the one that wants to part ways, and who doesn't, and you will find the one who is really oppressed, and who's the oppressor

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LOL 85% of elected officials, law enforcement, CEO's, and journalist are white males. In what world is that oppression? You're just unhappy that you live in a US where white males only have most of the power instead of all of it.

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Racist

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Typical lying snowflake response to someone telling the truth : You're "racist"!

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meh, I was being facetious. I'm so tired of the racism bullshit.
Hollow baseless accusations of racism at every turn and mandatory diversity are damaging progress made over the last 40-50 years imho.

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hard to tell who's joking anymore with all the immoral leftists. you are so right funkychicken.

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white males are the most hated species on earth. they are lied about constantly by the liberals and the liberal owned media.

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White males are the ones who are oppressed? Are you mad?

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I am completely rational.
- They're required higher scores to go to University.
- They're required higher productivity to have the same salary. White males (and asian males) have the highest rate productivity/salary.
- They're more persecuted by police, the rate arrests/crimes committed is higher in white males.
- There's no help aimed to them as a group.
- And finally, if they complain, they're attacked, shamed and publicly humiliated.

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Yeah, you are mad.

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I make rational arguments. You just insult.

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Actually, there's nothing rational about you thinking white males are oppressed. Nothing at all.

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Really? Well, how about a little experiment to test the validity of that assertion. Make a public statement -- any kind, social media is probably the easiest way, but there are others -- and in that statement, include genuine racial slurs, the worst you can think of, against white people, white males in particular. Watch what will happen. My guess is not much, apart from getting a few insulting remarks back from angry commenters. Now do exactly the same thing, but substitute literally any other ethnic or identity group you can think of for white males. The consequences, I promise you, will be far worse. Up to and including the very high likelihood of losing your job, depending on what you do for a living. And you know this to be true. Don't even attempt to deny it.

Now personally, I wouldn't have used the word oppression describing the attitudes toward white males in society today, though a rational case can be made for it -- kuku made a couple of valid points in that direction which you did not even try to refute with logic or counterexample, or showing in any way how he was wrong. But it certainly amounts to discrimination and unequal treatment.

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The problem is this type of show tries to shove an agenda down the viewers throat. A good show might have oppression in it but it wouldn't be going over the top to make it so preachy... watching this show is like reading Uncle Tom's Cabin which is one of the most lopsided and ridiculous stories ever written about slavery.

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They are refugees and the situation is more analogous to Europe than the US.

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It's the same situation. The EU use the term 'refugees' because it's easier to sell than 'immigrants', but they're just immigrants.

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Refugee is an actual thing and different than immigrant.

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Don't. It's not really about "immigration". At least not about immigration as a part of modern politics.

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except our illegal immigrants can't do cool air tricks in bed. :(

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