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The Pull To The Ambush


I found the opening scenes of the pull to the ambush ridiculously naive.

I am going to lay this at the door of the writers and directors of this film because I find it hard to believe that soldiers in the field would not only abandon a checkpoint completely, but follow an obvious pull in to such a perfectly deadly blind ambush.

It is strategy 101 to an insurgency to draw out troops from thier position of relative safety and control into an area where they have the upper hand.

In reality I am going to have to take it on faith that this give and take occurs at a much more sophisticated level than just running by waving a gun and then escaping into a blind alley with rooftop firing positions.

I understand artistic license and the fact that this is a movie and not a documentary, but as one who doesn't usually watch much MTV level material, is this really how dumbed down a war movie needs to be to allow liberalized cretins to understand the action?

That being said, I did enjoy the movie. I think the acting was surprisingly good and I was involved with the character stories. I did have to run it through my B.S. filter and my Stupid filter though. With a few little changes in the writing this could have been a great movie.

Specifically, a less retarded scenario in the beginning, where the Staff Seargent would be absolutely correct to think that he led his men stupidly into an ambush.
Also, a more human, and less PC approach to the stop-loss scenario where it is the backstory situation, but not portrayed inaccuratly as a surprise to the soldier who signed up for it, and not used incorrectly as it was in the movie. It would not have been a surprise in it's existence or it's timing in real life. Also I believe that he would have had a long leave before being shipped back with stop-loss after a long combat tour. In the movie it was portrayed as a few weeks or months.

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I understand artistic license and the fact that this is a movie and not a documentary, but as one who doesn't usually watch much MTV level material, is this really how dumbed down a war movie needs to be to allow liberalized cretins to understand the action?

That being said, I did enjoy the movie. I think the acting was surprisingly good and I was involved with the character stories. I did have to run it through my B.S. filter and my Stupid filter though. With a few little changes in the writing this could have been a great movie.


Just what is your point? Although films often have something serious to say, they are foremost a form of entertainment. Add to that, they have a very limited time to tell their story. Short cuts, to both emphasize and compress information, must be taken without compromising the integrity of the film. If that requires you to use a "Stupid filter," so be it.

I enjoyed this film a great deal and not as a lesson on military contracts or tactics.



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Stevie Wonder saw that ambush coming.

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"That being said, I did enjoy the movie. I think the acting was surprisingly good and I was involved with the character stories. I did have to run it through my B.S. filter and my Stupid filter though."

I agree, but the B.S/stupid filter for this movie is still nothing compared to most other action movies and similar. Compare to the tech/strategy/action of shows like 24 or Person of Interest which are just ridiculous in that sense.

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