Omkara or KANK ??? - Omkara (2006) Discussion

[–] rishi-raj 18 years ago

Commercially KANK. Indian Men and Women love watching grown Men and Women cry, they love hamming, they love over exaggerated emotions, Karan Johar is very good at this. I am very sure critics and fans would love KANK. Half decent performances from SRK and AB(s), already this film would be winning all the awards.

Omkara would be a cult classic, like Maqbool, its for people who like to see smart cinema, yes cinema as in international cinema and not fillums. I don't think Othello is a subject that will go down well with "junta" they like singing, dancing, crying. Omkara has singing, dancing and crying, but it will be similar to things in our lives. We don't like it, we like entertainment through escapism, surrealism and at times sadomaschoism. Thats Us, Indias, we are like this. It's not good, it's not bad. So KANK will have all of that, Omkara won't. KANK will be a succesful product, Omkara would be a succesful Cinema.

Answer:- KANK.

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[–] deep388 18 years ago

i agree with everything u said rishi-raj, couldnt've said it any better, i too think comerically KANK

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[–] puneet_v26 18 years ago

I think Omkara will stay with me forever....not KANK!!!

It's like most of Amir's movies, which are etched in minds og Indian moviegoers

And i've some queer feeling that Omkara will become rage here in India because

It has good songs , lot of rustic oomph and dark humour.

In addition classic characters enacted by Big stars.

If it became hit with critcs and masses ,it will become cult classic on the lines of Good ,Bad and Ugly.

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[–] monu32-2 18 years ago

Omkara is better than KANK in all view....
KANK is typically SRK movie if u r his fan then it's ur choice.
But if u want a real entertainment with a power punch watch Omkara...

Awesome movie of the year uptil

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[–] visor_quake 18 years ago

Well, in the US, the average family is middle class, while in India, the average family is lower middle class or poor.

And as for hating Omkara coz its dirty, that a bits weird. you could perhaps look to the core, and amid the layers of expletive-laden dialogues and bad people, you could find an image of yourself. And thats what movies, as the most popular medium now, should hope to achieve: a moment of introspection.

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[–] Moon_shot 18 years ago

Obviously KANK will do much better than Omkara at the box-office. There is no doubt about that. But, there is also no doubt in my mind that Omkara will be the better, mind you vastly better, product than KANK.

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[–] play5tat10n 18 years ago

Yep, i think KANK will do better commercially, but Omkara will be appreciated critically!!! That's excluding dumb a**es like Taran Adarsh

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[–] viveck_thakur 18 years ago

"£$%"&$%^ KANK. Anyone else of same opinion?

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[–] asbhatia 18 years ago

The WORST part of OMKARA was being unsuspectingly forced to sit through the trailor for KANK. Once I realized that Karan Johar garbage had started to come on screen I immediately got up for a popcorn break but fortunately it was over quickly and I sat back down.

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[–] sujatapuri 18 years ago

omkara and it was well the wait.

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[–] eternally_screwed89 18 years ago

KANK and Omkara is like chalk and cheese respectively.

KANK will do well commerically is about gurrantted. Omkara will be a hit atleast thats what i hope for. Such films dont recognition. It could well have been passed on as a art film if not for inclusion of commerial actors.

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[–] nitinonnet 18 years ago

Omkara is by far the leader. KANK will commercially do good but as far as the real cinema is concerned, Omkara wins.

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[–] Serpico1988 18 years ago

Omkara wins the race by ten miles, not commercially, but will by highly acclaimed. It is one of the best plots ever, and the Vishal Bharadwaj film-making is absolutely fantastic; KANK is just gonna be another super-duper hit, but obviously the better movie will be Omkara.

Karan Johar sucks.

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[–] jawsnnn 18 years ago

I am really surprised (and glad) to see 90% posts going with omkara. I agree, the moment I saw Shahrukh Khan shedding glycerine tears on the screen in the intermission I felt like throwing up. I mean how long can an actor kill his talent with crap directors? Compare Omkara - a brilliant film in all aspects. It actually gave me satisfaction, something that hasn't happened in a long, long time.

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[–] vivster_77 18 years ago

JEALOUS ??? Hahahahaha.

No one is jealous of SRK ... he can keep his Raj/Rahul act in Switzerland or New York city forever ...

He can't even play Kesu's role let alone Omi or Langda. No wonder he was never ever considered for this movie or this type of movie.

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[–] rishi-raj 18 years ago

Excellent Actor? I don't wanna crash your party, but he is not even above average actor. He's got a template for acting, one type of expressions, one type of voice changes, same and now stale body langauge. They stay hideously consitent across all the character he portrays. He tried doing things which were fancy for him but fell flat, so now I like him that he doesn't stick his nose in acting, I really like him for that. He is a businessman not an artiste, nothing wrong with that but then it would be nice if people give more credit to real artistes.

Considering that he can give orgasm to his million male and female fans, I think it's more accurate to say that he is an excellent entertainer.

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[–] ishanp-1 18 years ago

Well said. I am glad that you marked lines between art and entertainment.

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[–] colour-me-kubrick 18 years ago

tough one .you are asking me to choose between kandy floss romantic movies in which everyone is rich or in love and happy and singing ,mostly living in new york or somewhere in US AND a master craftsman whose sensebilities are for the intelligent audience,whose with script and screenplay is impeccable.whose ability to get the best out of actors is well known,i think people know who is who and you can make your choice.

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[–] kushal-1 18 years ago

wait over...omkara rocks and KANK sucks...BIG TIME!!

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[–] maxmovie2004-1 18 years ago

Pretty easy now.

Omkara rocks.
KANK sucks.

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[–] ishanp-1 18 years ago

Hahahaha!!!

Jealous of SRK's Acting!!! SRK-Acting... you call inflating your nasal acting? talking like a crippled chicken acting? If so then that's quite an irony. Why would we be jealous of someone we don't know and why would I be jealous of a commercial actor? As for money and fame go you'd be surprised that there are thousands of people who are more famous or rich than SRK even in India. Ever heard of one Bachchan, Mittal, Murthi, Tendulkar? We are only discussing our value of entertainment aren't we. Sorry to crash your party, I don't have any stakes or alliances except my taste, KANK does Suck. Sucks big time as Masala Entertainment Movie. Veer Zara, Swades, DDLJ were million times better.

Good looks? now thats another disputable comment, but guess to each his own. Surely he must be a good entertainer else we won't have fanboys like yourself, I mean Hashmi ones are even worse. I wish you great lover of SRK good times, I am looking forward to Don. Hopefully it will be slick and stylish. Farhan Akhtar is high in my books.

You xangelx88 the great lover of SRK, please pray on your faith that he stops hamming. I do realize what I consider hamming may give orgasm to many like you, so my request is separate entertainment from acting and we shall live in peace forever.

Coming back to Omkara, I am sure one day when you will grow up and your taste will mature. Maybe then when your kids will give you hard time for showing them KANK then hopefully you will realize that your million booked tickets today meant nothing.

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[–] ishanp-1 18 years ago

At least my immature comments got a half decent post out from you, so I guess I will take my immaturity.

You say:- "The setting was all nasty and low budgeted, it looked like a home movie with ugly terrible actors." Relax, cool down and think is that a fair comment? I do acknowledge that good art form is not for everyones taste and taste here is far from the issue. You didn't liked Omkara thats fair enough, liking certain movies doesn't make anyone a better person.

As far as I understand Omkara is a an adaptation(rather a vague one) of Othello the play and not remake of Othello the movie. There is a bit of a difference between a play and a movie if you know what I mean.

Yes you are right nothing can change my opinion, that it was an exceptional movie give or take anything. However, I appreciate Omkara so I come here, I share my opinion with like minded people. I don't have time or negative energy to go and post about things that I don't like. If you didn't like it you could have expressed it in a civilized manner instead of making rather idiotic and unnecessary comments. The thread is about choices so I don't see a need for an antagonizing propaganda.

Once you say everyone has their own taste, then you try to conclude that your taste is better and you don't want a conversation about it, if you are so confident then why be so cranky? I find you terribly confused.

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[–] blitzkriege 18 years ago

"I do appreciate good movies but Omkara was NOT good. The setting was all nasty and low budgeted, it looked like a home movie with ugly terrible actors."

My dear xangelx88, Omkara is set in the interior villages of India. The average man there unfortunately does not resemble Brad Pitt and the fact that the actors managed to bring in that rustic effect speaks volumes for their abilities. The 'nasty' sets as you called it would actually be an accurate representation of conditions there.

Maybe you feel more comfortable watching the millionaire lifestyle in movies like K3G, KANK, DDLJ etc, but without commenting on the merits of these movies, you must realize that this lifestyle is not a true reflection of 99% of India...

Just wondering, did you like Dil Chahta Hai? Something tells me you did. And that same something tells me you didn't think Saif Ali Khan looked ugly in that movie. That's the point of acting - to change oneself to suit the role. The only time I was actually surprised by SRK was when he did Swades. Other than that, though I enjoy most of his movies, all he does is be himself. Nothing more.

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[–] colour-me-kubrick 18 years ago

I realy am surprised that some of the folks at this site havent liked the movie OMKARA.Personally for me this is reflection of lack of taste for aesthetics,screenplay and intelligent cinema.nobody guaranteed that cinema guarantees entertainment but what people should try and analyse is the intent of the director and how successfull was he in achieving it.for me us indian audience are being spoonfed to often to understand and appreciate quality cinema.

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[–] colour-me-kubrick 18 years ago

I must say for xangelx88's sake that srk is the single gratest actor of all time in the world.i dont think jack nicholson,robert de niro,marlon brando,amitabh bachan etc come nearly close to him.his 'best friend' karan johar says he is bigger star than tom cruise with 3.2 billion fans(they have memorized that number).as you all know he is nver repetitive, never hams,works with different directors,is more keen about creativity than money,is very self depreciating and modest person(i m the best).i see all characteristics of an indian idol and every reason for everyone to be jealous.
by the way is there a new thing called sarcasm?

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[–] ishanp-1 18 years ago

It's quite inane arguing with xangelx88, his or her criticism are rather asinine. It's like discussing Warhol with a Grade 8th student, he will become pompous to defend his view. I mean you can argue on view point but can't change someones taste or could you?

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[–] rishi-raj 18 years ago

"'Omkara' sustained well in its second week and is certainly not a flop now. With a 50% industry standard fall, the film still added around 6 crore in the second week and now sits pretty at a total in excess of 18 crore! In fact it is amazing to see that the film hasn't taken a fall at all in Delhi with a great second week [1.4 crore] after a good first week [1.5 crore]. Mumbai too was decent with around 1 crore in the second week while smaller towns and cities too are chipping in the moolah." - Joginder Tuteja, indiaglitz.com

Latest US Box Office
This Wk Last Wk Title Dist. Weekend Gross Cumulative Gross Rlse Wks # of
Theaters
34 24 Omkara N/A $168,700 $958,394 3 47

So there goes to all the people who said it was a big flop. I am not saying we should make box office a judge of good cinema, its just to prove to some people that the movie is being like by some people atleast. It just shows that the bar for commercial hindi cinema has been raised. Its not going to be as huge as kank or krrish or fanaa, but that isnt a criteria to judge if the movie was successful or not, its more a personal choice. As you can see from my previous posts, I chose omkara, heads and heels above anything else thats running today. I couldnt even bring myself to watch kank because I have been just so enthralled by omkara that it would have been really trying on my senses to sit through 3 and and 1/2 hours of karan johar fluff.

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[–] colour-me-kubrick 18 years ago

hi folks .i have read some of the things u ppol have to day about srk.there was a time 10 yrs ago when i used to think srk will justify his obvious talents and set new benchmark.i have been crudely let down on that count.the way i see it is that he is biggest star in hindi industry, has the money,power and influence.but he doesnt have a vision for himself and his films.thats why he keeps clinging to the same clans and 'friends' for his project.he is not a risk taker,he wont work in different type of films,i guess the conclusiion is he is not a great actor but a big star and you cannot argue with success.for me he is the 'tom cruise' of indian cinema and my vote is for aamir khan as 'tom hanks'.i guess we agree who is better ator among these two.

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[–] vickygrg 18 years ago

i saw both omakara and kank
i am Definitely going for omkara .
kank is full of crap , same old karan johar movie style , same rona-dona .

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[–] deep388 18 years ago

yeah after watching KANK i have to say i was disappointed...omakra for me all the way, it was better atleast!!~ and Kareena stood out for me more in Omkara than Preity or Rani in KANK (even tho im huge fan of both of them!!!~)

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[–] ShirinShirinShirin 18 years ago

omkara could be good...ill go watch kank at cinema and rent omkara....oh! btw if u prefer the art movies to commercial cinema ur not smarter or anymore superior...actually if that thought has run through your mind....your a sad sad sad person. i pity you.

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[–] vivster_77 18 years ago

I have seen both Omkara and sKANK now so I can comment.

Omkara is a masterpiece with brilliant performance from all the actors. Great direction, great screenplay, background score ... Then we have some crap called sKANK with shocking performance all round (SRK hams and hams and hams). Too many WTF moments, poor direction, not realistic, no background score apart from the theme song over and over and over and over and over again. Over-long ... self indulgence at its very worse.

I have seen Omkara 4 times and still want to watch it again. With sKANK, 3.5 hours of my life was wasted watching it. Sadly I will never be able to get that back.

So which one do I prefer ? OMKARA by a million miles.

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[–] lovelywaz 18 years ago

Remmeber that KANK was a cheap lengthy copy of Closer (2004) and if someone thinks it was not a copy, sorry to say but he/she doesn't know anything about Cinema or Movies :D

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[–] ShirinShirinShirin 18 years ago

hahahaha half of bollywood r copies....and isnt omkara an 'adaptation' of othello...? so u no a lot eh.....?

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[–] lovelywaz 18 years ago

"hahahaha half of bollywood r copies....and isnt omkara an 'adaptation' of othello...? so u no a lot eh.....?"

Who said its copy ???? I think you realy don't know anything about Cinema. This movie is adaption of Othello and in openning credits, you can see it clearly.

Not like other crapy Bollywood movies, Krrish, Koi Mil Gaya, KANK, Ek Ajnabee, Zinda etc.................................... they steal others ideas and don't even bother to give proper credit :P

Anyway I am not gonna discuss on this usless issue called "Inspiration" in Bollywood without showing any respect to real work.

The Bottom Line is, Omkara and KANK can't be compared because one is a very well made movie and another is just a cheap crap lengthy stolen copy :P

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[–] ShirinShirinShirin 18 years ago

lovelywayz wdf r u tlking about? i aknoledged its an adaptation thats y i put it in qotation marks.... i suppose u missed that... anyway i meant MOST of bollywood r copies and isnt an adaptation ultimately a copy within itself or 're-interpretation'....yer bottom line u got it allllllll wrooooooooong

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[–] sa_online 18 years ago

Have seen both of them...u can't compare both of them as Kank is for mass entertainment and it excels in doing that where as omkara is for art lovers and I loved it too...if u compare the performances among all the actors in both the film I think Saif was the best followed by abhishek,kareena and Ajay...shahrukh entertains but never goes beyond that...

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