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angry mean black girl....nice prissy white girl.....subliminal messages

posted 17 years ago by omarsongs
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i hate to bring race into this but why is it the only black girl in the whole movie has a nasty attitude and is a raving b**ch and all the black guys (neyo and columbus short) are swooning and falling over ms. snow white! she all perfect and pretty and soooo vomit inducingly nice even when the angry black girl calls her out on the dance floor. and is it me or did the black girl out dance her completely in that segment? i mean whenever they showed the "white" girl dance they kept doing camera tricks cutting from her and showing the splits and flips and crowd reaction and when the evil mean black girl dances the show it in almost its entirety. i am sick of all this subliminal b.s.
I thought this movie was completely awful along with its music. the first one was better all the way. and i didn't think it needed a sex scene either...i mean their relationship didn't even spark that well,it was just off beat. the best actor was the dance teacher. Columbus was alright but it was like he step out of a crest commercial with all the fake smiling going on where is his acting range?

[–] dwacon-2 17 years ago

I was too busy gagging at the poor acting and the trite storyline to notice...

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[–] Boplock 17 years ago

^agreed.

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[–] miltonx 16 years ago

These sort of films often include an OTT stereotypical bitchy black girl. It's so predictable.

I think Sara outdanced her though.

[–] lemonparade01 16 years ago

how about we talk about every wayans' brother movie or tyler perry show/movie/play that has the stereotypical nerdy white person, or all the movies in the history of hollywood that portray germans as evil, sadistic hitler-esque monsters? Sorry, but most of hollywood is run by jewish people. I'm jewish, and most of the time I gag at the stereotypes found in ALL movies. I agree that this movie definitely did that but this movie was a terrible bomb so I wouldn't let it bother you that much.

[–] miltonx 16 years ago

Agreed. A lot of black movies show white people as sad nerds, and a lot of white movies show black people as people just there to be laughed at/ killed off in a "funny" way. Silly stereotypes are everywhere, unfortunately!

[–] honeychile85 16 years ago

I agree with the last couple of comments on the depiction of stereotypical characters. I hate movies that try to prove that white people can dance. People know that some white people can dance i just disagree with some of the concepts and dialogues that movies show. I dislike the concepts of upper class whites being placed in the hood who feel that they have to prove to everyone that they can dance. The whole plot was off, i mean does these kind of things really happen. I mean if you want to prove to anyone that you can dance i believe people of any kind of racially background usually are trained or often prove themselves in front of millions on dance shows. i dont believe that they go looking for trouble.

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[–] wendygirl_18 16 years ago

It pisses me off too, i'm watching it right now for the first time and its annoys me b/c the sublimal mesassage is. "see if black girls were nicer than he wouldn't be dating the white girl". It happened in the first movie, in television shows, books are whatever. Anytime there is a black guy dating the "nice white girl" you can bet theres the "bitch black girl" too justify it. Whatever.

[–] the-zipoz 16 years ago

You people are reading way too much into this.... It is like me saying "Hey come on why isn't there a white guy for that girl. Does he have to be black. That is so steriotipical and they are using supliminal message - "black guys are hotter than white guys." I as a white guy should protest and burn posters of the movie because it is rasist.

This is just a freakin movie. Deal with it. (and pretty good one at that)

[–] NoelLiebtSie 15 years ago

I only saw the first, this looks like utter crap

the-zipoz-
Is that a serious comparison you're trying to make? So you don't see any difference between the number/variety of portrayals/roles,levels of exposure/power etc. of white males and women of colour? Not to mention the fact that there's no equivalent "she likes black guys because of dull white idiots like this white a-hole here, what a jackass" characters lol um hello?

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[–] readable 16 years ago

If script-writers must worry about any personality attributes they attach to their characters being interpreted as racial stereotyping, they would be constrained to very brand portrayals.

[–] wnc85 16 years ago

I understand this way of thinking, however I have to disagree with the subliminal messages thing. I am in a serious interracial relationship now and have been for quite some time. I am your stereotypical white girl and I have a black boyfriend. He comes from a small, southern white town and I am from a city in Tennessee. One would think that the problems we face come from redneck white people in the south (which are not as bad or plentiful as people think, but they are there). This simply isn't the case. I can count on one hand the number of incidences I have had where another white person has given us "a look" or made a disparaging comment. I have, however, had NUMEROUS occasions where black women have made very hurtful and awful comments about us being together. These have come from both complete strangers and women we know. This is an issue that several interracial couples I know have faced. I think that it is a problem that needs to be addressed and both this movie and the first one both handled well.

[–] keykeyx100000 13 years ago

I am a black woman with an older white man and as noted in my comment above STILL managed to see the subliminal message. The message was the same one in STLD1: White chicks are better than black chicks, and black guys should be their preference because white chicks don't notice white guys.

VERY stereotypical. Barely subliminal. (I like both movies besides those horrid concepts. We like who we like)

My boyfriend lives in Baltimore and I get the comments/looks/you-name-it from both black men AND black women. Some treat me nicely until they see who I am holding hands with. Some notice right away. One black woman drove past us and said "Your mamma's looking for ya!" (I also look very young). Some black guys at a bus stop said "She looks like a girl I *beep* back in high school" and another added on "Why it gotta be him?". I will not hold back: Baltimore is VERY racially divided.

My boyfriend and I have actually been thinking of moving to the south or midwest. in Miami, a lot of people look at us and just keep walking. Not one confrontation.

North East? Yes.

So perhaps what you experience with black women has something to do with the location and culture, because I am a black woman and I would never confront you about choosing someone that (hopefully) makes you happy.

[–] pretti-in-pnk 15 years ago

i agree with the whole race thing about one black girl who is a bitch etc etc however from a dancers P.O.V im sorry to say but the white girl out dance the black girls ass... which i thought was HIGHLY surprising...
ONE THING I REALLY DONT UNDERSTAND IS!!!!!!!! why the hell is sarah such a pro at hip hop now in this movie when it is set only like what a year after the last movie so she finished her senior year at hs and now she is in juliyard... i rly don't get it...

[–] chloecoleman 15 years ago

Ahhhh this is so true

[–] punxunited91 15 years ago

Ugh... really. The movie sucked anyway. Plus I'm sure that there aren't any little kiddies out there forming their "prissy white girl" hip hop dance team.
I wouldn't worry about it. They kicked out the guy who played Eric and that made the whole movie pointless and stupid.

[–] texasflutes 14 years ago

Derek; not Eric

[–] mrk7289 15 years ago

Your point is the opposite of subliminal, although shouldnt expect much from someone who watched film.

[–] Hanora 14 years ago

Well my pov is this, I don't think it had to do with any racial matters, It was simply like they said in the beginning of the movie (at the club) she is like that with everybody. This movie unlike the 1st had nothing to do with racial matters what so ever, obviously because his mother was white and his father was black and both parents were both highly educated in the performing arts world. It was a matter of what they both felt artistically. I thought it was more about what they both felt in their artistry and how they felt about eachother than anything else. JMO