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Why do movies with black people always get low ratings?


Why do i always see that :/ Its just weird...

p.s. im from Europe

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Why is it that there is always one of these posts when a "black" movie gets rated low and yet noone says boo about a "white" movie rating low?

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"Because there's millions of white people movies.
And movies like Malcolm X are rated 7.6, when movies that are not as good as Malcolm X (Gandhi), are rated 8.1 and #166 greatest film?"

Last I checked, Gandhi was Indian.


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That proves nothing. I'll exceed the bandwidth of this page if I were to list all of the white movies that suck.

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Yeah, but then you'd just be displaying the law of averages.

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LOL @ people comparing Malcolm X to Gandhi. I can bet most of you here haven't even seen Gandhi yet.

And this movie doesn't deserve a 2-3, imo, it was a little better than that. I rated it a 5. Ice Cube was awesome, so was Tracy Morgan, but overall the movie just didn't feel that funny as it could have, it didn't stand up to the expectations.

As for people here complaining about low ratings to black movies, xD, get a life! Not only black movies get low ratings you know, and there have been lots of awesome black movies that have gotten good ratings.




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There are a few movies on this list that mail-924 listed that I can understand why they are rated low...

Norbit YES
Why Did I Get Married? SORTA
Daddy's Little Girls SORTA
Phat Girlz HELL YES
Big Momma's House 2 YES
Diary of a Mad Black Woman don't agree with
Hair Show HELL YES
Roll Bounce HELL YES
The Honeymooners HELL YES
The Cookout 54X HELL YES
Soul Plane SUCKED BALLS
Still 'Bout It [never saw...judging by the title, i dont want to]
Hood of Horror [^^see above]
All About the Benjamins [^^^^]
The Wash [^^^^^]
Friday After Next IT WAS GOOD...BUT I CAN SEE WHY IT WAS LOW
Vampire in Brooklyn [sounds corny]
Harlem Nights [I want to see this one...]

Take out the fact that they are so called 'Black Movies', then judged.
Yup, I'm african american and can honestly see why some of these movies were rated low....


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"And movies like Malcolm X are rated 7.6, when movies that are not as good as Malcolm X (Gandhi), are rated 8.1 and #166 greatest film?" -- Prodigyhavoc

What an opinion. Meanwhile, I thought "Ghandi" blows "Malcolm X" out of the water.

Million Dollar Baby Academy Award® Winner for Best Picture of 2004

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I am Legend is a "black" cast movie, and it rated high.

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Not really

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im sorry...im not racist but these films are really not funny...they are the same jokes pushed over...and over....and over again...now "dont be a menace to south central wile drinking your juice in the hood" was HILARIOUS!! but then they made 100billion more just like it...and just to let everyone know i think the same about the Scary/Epic movie series...ok Scary movie 1 i thought was funny 2 sucked 3 kinda redeemed itself a little and 4 was plain awful...date and epic movie were 2 of the worst movies ive ever seen and now i refuse to see meet the spartans...fact is that scary movie was origanal and funny..then they drug the same damn jokes in the ground over and over again...AHH WRITE SOMETHING GOOD!!..like juno that was hilarious

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That lady wasn't white, she was hispanic.

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is this a joke? no seriously.

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That's probably because white people actually like Will Smith.

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American Gangster is #159 with an 8.2

First Sunday just sucks.

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"American Gangster" wasn't great, granted. But it's far from being a sh=tty film.

I question your taste on films, especially with you being a "Mobb Deep" fan.

Million Dollar Baby Academy Award® Winner for Best Picture of 2004

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1) White movies get low ratings all the time, and I do not hear white people b*tching. Examples...
Epic Movie = Low rating
Date Movie = Low Rating
From Justin to Kelly = Low Rating
Baby Geniuses 1 + 2 = Low Rating
Anything directed by Ulli Lommel
Anything directed by Uwe Boll

2)Spike Lee is a good director, but he is not a "Legend" and certainly not on the same level as Kubrick or Scorsese or Hitchcock or Bergman, etc.

3)Malcolm X is not as good as Gandhi in terms of directing or in terms of the material. Now, I anticipate black people getting pissed over this, but I don't care. One movie features a Civil rights activist that bordered on being a racist and supremacist. The other features arguably the most influential figure in the past century who freed an entire race of people from British oppression leading to two countries. Now, Malcolm X did help to create certain equalities in this country for black people, but you can not seriously compare what Gandhi and Malcolm X did. Now, if you truly were comparing the movies, then I still believe Gandhi was better (although Malcolm X was a great movie). But, if you were comparing the figures of Gandhi and Malcolm (which it seems like you were alluding to), then you are way off.

4) "Black movies" get good ratings, such as "American Gangster" and "Hotel Rwanda". It baffles me that people think garbage like this movie or "Who's Your Caddy?" should get good ratings.

5) Why does anybody care about something so arbitrary as IMDB movie ratings? Honestly, why do people care one iota? These ratings are meaningless, not to mention completely based on the opinions of people who know nothing about cinema. For instance, "the Incredibles" is rated higher than the "Grapes of Wrath". "Toy Story 2 over "Casino". People take this list too seriously.

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thank you, the ratings on this website are stupid and hold NO weight outside of this site. I'm sure this isn't the "go-to" website for hollywood to see genuine movie ratings, and I'm sure they don't come here for anything else.

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mizwright- I am Legend is a "black" cast movie, and it rated high.





exactly, but the bigots here don't want to address our success, they rather focus on the films that haven't made hundreds of million of dollars. The truth is white people have 10 times as many movies as us that are terrible, but they'd rather try to turn the tables and take attention off of their shortcomings and post negative things about us.

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First of all, people need to stop saying "I am Legend" is a "black movie". I will give credit to a "black movie" when it is due, (He Got Game, Malcolm X, Hotel Rwanda, etc.) but this is not a "black movie". Half the cast is not black. The director and writers are white. This movie does not fall under "black" or "white movie" categories. By your standards I can claim "Training Day" as a "white movie" because the cast is mostly white.

Secondly, let me just state this simple fact to people who seem to forget it, this country is by far and away, populated by white people. I know, shocking isn't it? Black people are about 10%, which is behind Hispanics. So, by keeping that simple fact in mind, it stands to reason that there are numerous more bad "white movies" than bad "black movies" because there are thousands upon thousands more "white movies" made. Why? Because it is profitable to make a movie that tailors to your major audience. It is hard to convince a movie studio that only cares about profits to make a movie that relates almost solely to black people when black people account for 1 out of every 10 people on the street .

Finally, "we" (white people) do not "turn the tables" on anything. Almost every single one of these annoying threads is started by someone asking the inevitably stupid question, "why are black movies rated low?" Or, "this movie got a low rating because IMDB is racist against black movies".

Or maybe I am just wrong. Maybe it is our secret plan to turn attention away from terrible white movies like "3 Ninjas: High Noon at Mega Mountain". You cracked the case. White people have secret gatherings to plot and scheme ways to lower black IMDB movie ratings whilst fabricating anti-black movie sentiments to turn attention away from our number one threat....our dangerously low rating on "Ben and Arthur". We do it long enough to vote "Who's Your Caddy" down enough so a "black movie" is on the bottom 100. I mean the audacity to have a "white movie" rated the lowest.

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first of all, whether the screenwriters were black or not, the main character of I Am Legend is black and the movie was/is a huge success.

second of all, like I already posted, there are hundreds of awful "white movies". It would be impossible to post them all here, lol.

third of all, threads like this are started so bigots like you can attempt to analyze our movies and post negative comments instead of addressing the fact that there are MANY more white movies than black movies that have flopped.

of course you're wrong, and the ratings on this site prove nothing, and they mean nothing outside of this site, and you know damn well the list MUCH bigger than that for all of the white movies that are complete garbage.

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1) The main character is black,and? What the hell is your point? The point was "I am Legend" was a "black movie", which it is certainly not. You proved nothing. Also, a movie's success has A LOT to do with the writers of the script and the director. It is not all about the actors.

2)Your point is utter nonsense. Of course there are more bad "white movies". It stands to reason when the majority of movies made are "white movies". There are also hundreds of better "white movies". What is your point? It is all relative to the percentage of movies made being "white movies". You make some really ignorant statements.

3) Yes. You are right. We (white people) make black people start these annoying, utterly retarded threads so we can be bigots. Yes, 100% correct. It has NOTHING to do with black people being so insecure that they feel the need to cite racism in something so minute as IMDB movie ratings. Yes, again, it is our fault. NOT, apparently, the black people who start these stupid threads.

4) "of course you're wrong, and the ratings on this site prove nothing..."
Yes, I am wrong. Apparently I was wrong when I said the EXACT SAME THING 2 posts ago. But, I'll chalk up you completely fabricating statements that I never said to you being completely stupid.

5) You must either be seven years old or have some serious learning disability because you can not write a coherent, grammatically correct sentence to save your life.

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1) you proved nothing either, and where in my post did I say it was ALL ABOUT THE ACTORS? Go read my post again.

2) most of your statements are ignorant. Thanks for showing the world how stupid you are.


3) Black people start "retarded threads" such as this one, yet you continue to put in the time and effort to post here, lol. It's also stupid to ass-ume that the person who started this thread is Black.


4) I agreed with the fact that YOU'RE wrong and the ratings here prove nothing. Go back and read my senetnce about that again, apparently you have a reading disablility and didn't understand my statement.


5) My post was "coherent" enough for you to respond back to EVERYTHING I've posted so far, lol.






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to the person above me who deleted their post, you should've kept it there, that was VERY funny, LOL!

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1) You said, "the main character of I Am Legend is black and the movie was/is a huge success."
Ergo, it is easy to assume you attribute a large amount of the success of the film because of Will Smith.

2)Wow, that was clever. I called you ignorant and you turn around and call me ignorant. Impressive. Yea, you sure showed me all right.

3)Did I ever say the person who started this thread was black? No. So no assumption was made you moron. And I respond to these threads because I think it is asinine for black people to cite racism for something so stupid as IMDB ratings.

4)"I agreed with the fact that YOU'RE wrong and the ratings here prove nothing."
How am I wrong if we have the same viewpoint on the subject? Are you that stupid? If I am wrong, then so are you. Think for a second.

5)Setting that literary bar pretty low I see.

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1) of course a large amount of succcess with I Am Legend was because they chose Will as the main character, there's no denying that. Anyone who does is a complete moron.


2) refer to number 2 of my previous post.


3) You said "We (white people) make black people start these annoying, utterly retarded threads so we can be bigots."

so yes, you did ass-ume the person who started this thread is black, otherwise you wouldn't have posted that, lol.


4) it's very obvious that reading comprehension skills isn't one of your strong points, lol.


5) my "literary bar" is high enough for you to continue to respond to EVERYTHING I've typed here thus far. refer to number 5 of my previous post, lol.

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1) If this movie had Brad Pitt as the star actor it would have done just as well. It was a mass marketed movie with a big budget, it would have gotten ticket sales regardless.

2)You're still not clever, so stop trying.

3)Start "these" annoying threads. Not "this" annoying thread. Meaning, and stick with me hear, that in GENERAL these threads are started by black people. Never, not once, did I say the person who started the thread was black. But, if you can not understand the difference between the word "these"and "this" I can understand, because you come off dumber and dumber on ever post.

4)Must be.

5) I can respond to something a third grader writes. If you feel satisfied with being able to write well enough for people to respond to your statements then you are a moron.

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1) it wouldn't have done "just as well", and they knew that. That's why they chose Will.


2) neither are you. a random screenname such as you will never make me "stop typing", lol.


3) you're stupidity has shown since the previous page. keep up the bad work.


4) indeed.


5) of couse I'm satisfied with my typing. it's legible enough for dumb rednecks like you to keep responding, lol.


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1) Yes, they chose "Will" because apparently hes the biggest actor on the planet. *sarcasm*

2) Hey, by all means, keep making a fool of yourself.

3)Way to side-step my comment and come up with another classic 3rd grade comeback. Amazing job.

4) "Indeed". Wow, that is a big word for you.

5) Ah, assuming I am a redneck. Classic black person comeback. I would have figured you to use that at some point like the quintessential spear-chucker you are. By the way, I live in New York City you idiot. So, try again.

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1) apparently he is.


2) by all means, keep responding to this "fool". I'm flattered by the attention.


3) all of your insult attempts have been rather "elementary". try again.


4) refer to number 3, lol.


5) how unoriginal. the fact that you live in new york city is irrelevant. stupid white trash like you "live" in different locations.

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1) Yea, I guess. He is like, the best actor of ALL-TIME. Bar-none.

2) I am glad you are "flattered", you must not get much attention in the real world, huh?

3) I never used the word "elementary", so there was no need to put it in quotes you moron. "Try again." See what I did there? You actually used the words TRY AGAIN, and I put them in quotes. Unlike you quoting the phantom word "elementary". Again, you are a complete moron.

4) Apparently, living in Manhattan my entire life, coupled with the fact that I am a first-generation American, makes me "white trash". Yes, makes complete sense. Or you are just a dumb negro that tosses around "white trash" as an insult because your tiny mind can't think of anything else to say.

I am done responding to this wanna-be MLK of IMDB. Have fun obsessing about Will Smith and using quotations improperly.

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1) No doubt about that.

2) apparently you don't either, lol.

3) I never stated you used that term. You really are slow and have a learning disability I see, lol.

4) and you are a dumb cracker with nothing intelligent to post. How do you "say" something on a message board, lol?


I could care less about where you live and where you're from, so stop explaining yourself, dumbass.

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especially about MissLisaToYou not having a point. I mean, she may be a cutie in real life and all that but she doesn't have a valid argument... And I'm black...

Ironically enough, I'm looking at "Are We Done Yet?" as I'm writing this and man, it's terrible. I wonder if someone started a thread like this on the aforementioned film's thread.

Bottom line: most of those films on the bottom list deserve low ratings.

Million Dollar Baby Academy Award® Winner for Best Picture of 2004

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Because you only look up movies starring Ice Cube?

"And I, Jack, the Pumpkin King,"

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because they suck. This one was good though.

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Uh, why does everything have to come down to racism? Seriously. I'm so sick of reading these stupid 'White people are all racist! etc' threads. If a film is good it'll get a good rating, if it's bad it doesn't.

Wow, that was really hard to understand, huh?

The only people that keep racism alive an kicking are the people that keep using it as a crutch for everything. It's equally ignorant to assume that the population of any race is racist enough that they would purposefully lower ratings of films.

People fought pretty damn hard for the rights of their people to be seen as equal to others. So why is it that those same people now seem to want to constantly separate themselves? I just don't understand it.

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"According to their logic, all black cast movies should have a 6.0 or higher rating if the rating is lower it's the white man holding them down."


Of course not, and your use of "their" and "they" is a generalized statement. With that said, you post does not speak for every Black person who posts on this site. Also, any rants on this site from any Black person does not "spit in the face" of anyone who's directed a successul Black film. That statement is from you, a random screenname, and it's a stupid, false statement. Furthermore, like I stated before, low ratings on this site holds no weight outside of this site.

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Films directed by hispanics are good!!

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