Pitiful Cowboys....


I don't know why the director made these cowboys the most disgusting, pitiful things in Western cinema ever, but if that was the goal he did a good job. What was the point of this movie? And why doesn't Val Kilmer quit acting if all he's gonna do is play a dead guy? This movie definitely had the OMG factor as far as some weird and shocking scenes, but that's about it.

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maybe because that is what the western frontier was like. i hope your idea of westerns is not based on the clean cut and dry westerns of the 50s era. i'm going to assume that you have zero familiarity with westerns that didn't star that nazi John Wayne. bathing wasn't exactly top priority on peoples to do list back then. this movie looks great, the characters are suppose to be gritty. look at Leone' the characters were filthy. most Italian westerns were done different looking then American westerns, thats why they stood out.(and were better and more accurate.) even Peckinpah had scummy looking authentic looking characters in The Wild Bunch.

the point?
whats the point of any movie?


as for Kilmer's role choice...

i thought it was great. who else thats a an actor/actress in Hollywood would take a role like that. this proves Val Kilmers on another level then most. he's dedicated to the art not the paycheck/awards( unlike most of his "contemporaries") besides Val loves westerns.

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Yes, this film was gritty. I don't mind grittiness, but it was just plain bad. It made no sense.

As for Kilmer being a great actor. I agree. I thought it was ironic that he played a corpse, while the rest of the cast, who couldn't act at all, played living characters and Kilmer had no lines. He's definitely a bit cooler in my book for that bit of ironic statement.

I have to admit, I was hoping for a bit of the Doc Holiday character to come out, but we'll probably never see that from Kilmer again, since he doesn't believe in going back. His level of depth keeps progressing. No other actor could claim they played a corpse for an entire movie. Not after they've established themselves, at least. I know Costner did at the beginning of his career.

Wilson to House: Wow. Looks like someone filed half-way through your cane while you were sleeping.

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Unfortunately Kilmer did it for the paycheck. He was approached by some of the producers at a film festival and they had a bag with $50,000 cash in it. Well, maybe not a paycheck but cash. They said, "One day filming and you don't have any lines." So he took it. Not bad for a days work though even though it was a *beep* film and most of the characters were dubbed by other actors (Excluding the main dude lindi and that woman). They were called in afterward and had to redo their stuff because their original accents were too harsh and they were mispronouncing words all the time.

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