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Some of the worst acting I have seen


So I watched the 10min preview and decided i could not watch this movie even though i love ww2 movies. The black actors cast to play the pilots sound and act like they were pulled right off the streets and were handed a script that they had sitting in the cock pit and read off of. Im not being racist not like they could of painted a bunch of whites to play the part, not hating cause its about blacks, I love Miracle at St.Anna. They could of got much better actors to play in this terrence howard is great as is cuba but they should of been in those planes along with maybe tyrese gibson, maybe even ving rhames. There are much better actors out there then they chose. I will eventually watch the whole movie but its hard cause you like to loose yourself in it and you cant when the whole time your sitting there watching guys read lines like they dont care.

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I thought Cuba Gooding was good. Most of the rest, not so much. The bomber crews just sounded stupid, like they were reading their lines for the first time. Of course, their scripted lines really were stupid.

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You beat me to it. The bomber crews had some of the worst lines in the movie. Especially at the beginning. "Aww man...there goes our fighter cover." "Hold on, we are almost there. *explosion* "Gaaaaah!"

In scenes where you should have been tense, scared, angry, upset, these guys just managed to sound like cyborgs.

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I completely agree wish it would of been better, if your looking for a great plane fighting movie around that era Fly boys is good. Oh and dont know if you if you understood me earlier I was commenting that terrence howard and cuba gooding were great actors just not the rest of them.

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if your looking for a great plane fighting movie around that era Fly boys is good.


Not only is Fly Boys an awful film it's set in WW1 not WW2. If you're looking for good WW2 flight films check out Twelve O'Clock High with Gregory Peck or a more recent film called Memphis Bell about the crew of a B-17. God Is My Co-pilot and Flying Leather Necks are two more golden oldies that you may enjoy.

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it was cheesier than dutch cheese, even compared to some Arni movies which are made of cheese

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Not only is Fly Boys an awful film it's set in WW1 not WW2. If you're looking for good WW2 flight films check out Twelve O'Clock High with Gregory Peck or a more recent film called Memphis Bell about the crew of a B-17. God Is My Co-pilot and Flying Leather Necks are two more golden oldies that you may enjoy.

No one is a bigger fan of Mathew Modine than me. That said for me 'Memphis Bell' was pure corn. Not one line ran true in this film based on the real crew of a World War II bomber that completed all of her missions without losing one of her crew. I guess any actual incidents that they experienced were too boring for the writers & the director. It was the war version of 'The Outsiders' as far as casting. Every actor on the Belle was a well known B list lead actor with the exception of the two guys who played the right & left waist gunners and Reed Diamond, who found fame on tv show 'Homicide:Life on the Street'. The three I mentioned were the only ones who didn't phone it in. Can't say that I blame the others though. Their lines were hokey as hell!

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I seem to remember that the belles last mission was a milk run to France,

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There were actually two bombers that completed all 25 missions without losing a crew member.

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Blame the dubbing.... way too much looping, which makes it hard for any actor to recapture a naturalistic performance.

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No, it's not because of the dubbing.

Nice to learn that fighter cockpits are as quiet as Lexus cabins, though. Or that you can hear an enemy pilot as he bails out past your canopy.



What I had in mind was boxing the compass.

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I would not say it was the worst but its up there. Then again its got Cuba and Terrance ...

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I would not say it was the worst but its up there. Then again its got Cuba and Terrance ...



..who both "phoned it in".

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The only good line delivered by them was the:

"...Get your head up son, you're fighter pilots."

in the meeting scene.

And they lost the impact of it cause it was in the trailer (I guess they knew it was a crap film so they put the best into the trailer)

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Ne Yo was by far the worst I think. I don't know what was worse, the annoying stereotypical voice (no fighter pilot would have a voice like that as voices need to be clear on radio) or the ridiculous obvious phony guitar playing. This movie was way too dumbed down and they put people like Ne Yo in it to attract younger audiences.

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I understand the conversation about Red Tails being negative, but it is worth the watch because it is apart of the history of WWII that has been hidden for so many years. I am proud of this becoming known, after more than 50 years. If you have an open mind, can accept the truth, and are willing to give credit to the African Americans who helped us win the war, even though they received no glory because of the color of their skin, give it a watch. Thank goodness, that all of that prejudice is dying out, just not fast enough.

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haha,....umm,..NO.

You should go to a different site if you think a film should be critiqued based off of the original storyline and not the actual elements of filmmaking.

We are talking about the quality of this film, which is horrible in Acting and Writing,....2 of the most important parts of a film.

I think this film was a disgrace to the real fighter pilots and should have been done with more care and thought. It made them look silly, in my opinion.

This was no tribute to the brave fighter pilots,...it was a pathetic attempt to appeal to audiences based on the original story in hopes to make some cash.



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Then you should watch "The Tuskeegee Airmen" movie from 1995. It's not great but it's better than this garbage and has a better cast (Cuba Gooding is in it as well.)

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Pretty suckee all around, including the cheesy cgi

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Watch the movie because I think you're giving Terrance Howard and Cuba Gooding extra credit because they have charisma. They are true stars but they were bad in the movie as well. Howard somehow found a way to add another syllable to the word "colored". I don't find him believable as a military man. (Not in Iron Man or Hart's War either.) Gooding was doing a Gen. MacArthur impression which I thought was inappropriate. Ving Rhames wouldn't helped with that terrible script. I understand they were trying to make a fun action film but the whole tribute to those brave men went out the window. Somehow, I still liked it.

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The acting was appalling. But with that script you could expect no less. Silly, cliche script of caricatures and stereotypes. The characters were without substance, nuance and subtext. As an older African American, my parents and their friends were from this generation. The men from that generation did not act like this. This happens too much with African American actors doing period pieces. They don't seem to have the dramatic scope, human understanding, nor the willingness to transcend the role and portray it as is, not as some B-Boy off the streets in the hood.

And white filmmakers simply don't care enough to understand black people as human beings. They all acted like buffoons. There was no story whatsoever. And when you don't build a character, you have no emotional connection to them, so if they die, or get hurt, you're essentially indifferent.

Just a really bad movie.

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Waldimore, thank you for that analysis. You are of course, correct. But it doesn't have to be that way. If you haven't already seen it, I highly recommend seeing the HBO movie, The Tuskegee Airmen. It is far superior to this turkey and goes a lot further to doing these men justice.

One usually finds that a movie addressing a particular subject usually does a better job than earlier efforts . Many of us were hoping this would be such a case. Unfortunately, in this case we were wrong.

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That was my impression as well. The guys in those days may have shucked and jived a bit, but they weren't that successful just because they were black. The movie depicts a group of alcoholics, idiots and basically thugs in uniform. No way those guys even start a plane, much less fly successful missions as the real Redtails did.

The movie tried to cover a too long a time period. There was absolutely no character development and I felt nothing when Lightning didn't make it back. He was constantly rewarded in the film for not following the orders of his flight leader, who was always flying drunk. They tried to do too much and left holes everywhere. They wasted time on what was happening in the States instead of focusing on the lives and relationships of the pilots. You know basically nothing about them except Easy's dad was a judge. Terrible acting, Gooding should be ashamed as should Howard, both capable actors, and Howard normally has a gravitas about him just because his eyes seem to be on the verge of crying all the time.

It's hard to get the younger generation to learn the ways of the older ones, but in film it's necessary to do so. These guys weren't actors, they are all basically one trick ponies all using basically the same shtick. It should have been called "Boyz N the Planez".

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Golly, racist much? White film makers "don't care enough to understand black people as human beings?". I am pretty sure that is the most racist thing I've heard in a while. Blacks complain that whites are bigoted and racist, but why is it ok for blacks to be bigoted toward whites?

If we want to rid the world of bigotry and hatred, we can only do it if EVERYONE stops it, not just some of us...

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What on Earth are you going on about here?

In what way is bigotry displayed by making a fair accusation against the majority of Hollywood directors and how they perceive Blacks? It might be an accusation that I don't necessarily agree with, but it's a fair accusation nonetheless. How does that translate into bigotry or even racism in any sort of way?


Get real and learn how to contest someone's opinion or theory that you do not disagree with, without making up false notions of bigotry or racism in the process.


If the above-poster feels that white filmmakers "don't care enough to understand black people as human beings," then I'm all ears to his or her explanation. It is a valid claim and Hollywood has not displayed much over the years to suggest the contrary. Even the very producer of this movie (George Lucas) suggested in interviews on the eve of this film's release, that Hollywood shows a lack of interest in supporting Black films of quality, with carefully thought out Black themes. You would do well to keep your mouth shut and fight actual battles when they arise, not invisible ones just because you have something to get off your chest that isn't even the issue on this thread.





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Well, back to you! I can state my opinion without being told to "shut my mouth" (very classy, by the way).

I think (and I'm allowed to do that) that if we want to see equality for everyone, then everyone should act the same toward each other and be given the same courtesies. You don't bash me, I don't bash you. Simplistic idea, but it would work. One ethnic group shouldn't be allowed to criticize another. That's all I'm saying, and nothing I said required anything like your response.

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And the writing. So corny and totally unbelievable. I don't think it is the actors fault. They're delivering the material they were given and it is pretty awful.

I don't think I'll be able to make through the entire film.

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That's exactly what I was going to post. The screenplay is just awful. I don't fault the actors, they had nothing to work with but cliches and stereotypes.

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It reminds me of an old 1940's B-movie. The cinematography was well done, but it wasn't enough to hold my interest. I gave up very quickly. Sadly, this was a very forgettable film about people who should not be forgotten.

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Agreed. I wanted to like this film so badly.

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Have you seen a Star Wars movie or Howard the Duck? Then that explains the bad acting that are in most of George Lucas films. Can't blame the actors, they are being directed by George Lucas.

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