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Interracial relationship in Italy in the 40s?


Seems very unlikely to me. Especially the way they did it, neither knowing the other language or barely knowing anything about each other(he spotted her from a plane...).
Anyone who knows how racist Italy was at the time?

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Not necessarily unlikely. For example, a lot of German women in the occupied Rhineland area after WWI ended up having interracial marriages and kids with the French colonial troops from Africa who were stationed there.

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Yeah, I found it a bit odd. Especially between Italian gal and Afro-American. Interracial relationships were unthinkable then in USA, let alone in Europe.

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In southern Italy things were 'looser'; anyway, Italian women were already 'fornicating with wogs' in regards to showing gratitude to French North African Mountain Troops for 'liberating' them.




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Perhaps, but Catholics in the 1940s were even more socially conservative than today.

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Maybe, but fornicating wiith French North African Troops (which are mostly from Algier) is not quite the same as fornicating with Afro-American. Algier was French colony and many people in France have their heritage.

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But the Goumiers are definitely NOT Frenchmen. And speaking of which, isn't there a 'special' expression the Italians used to describe sexual assault by North African troops?




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Actually, I made an error I didn't put word "NOT" when referring to fornicating. I fixed it now. Goumiers weren't Frenchmen, but many emmigrated to France anyway. As the others did. However, not all North Africans have black skin.
Don't know for special expression for rape by NA troops.

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Here it is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marocchinate

I guess it was a feature of the Sofia Loren movie 'Two Women'.


EDIT: I have to add that some in recent years say much of the sex was consensual in both Italy & France, with the rape claims coming from folks trying to protect their honor for sleeping with non white soldiers.



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According to wiki, it says that"60 000 women were raped, age ranging from 11 to 86". Later on, it seems to discredit the matter, applying such claims to German propaganda. Don't know what to think of it. Perhaps, it is the case to avoid political incorrectness. Like molestation by Mddle East migrants in city of Koln last year. It'll demand someone who really knew what happened then.

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Interracial relationships were unthinkable then in USA, let alone in Europe.



It would have been on in France even well b4 WW2, I would believe...colonial black and middle-eastern soldiers, , Cameroonians/Senegalese and Moroccan/Algerians were certainly on French soil in WW1 in profusion, and probably b4 that.
The Germans produced the predictable propaganda posters with nasty physical caricatures of the French colonial black soldiers they were encountering.
Black American soldiers in WW1 spoke almost with incredulity of the very affable treatment they got in France from the populace..cheek-pinching, this kind of thing.
No doubt IR bonking took place here and there, as well.

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Anyone who knows how racist Italy was at the time?



that time, or any other time including now.
although no doubt IRs happen commonly now...Italy is swamped with black Africans and Middle-Easterners like the rest of western europe.

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Let's see ... Rome is 300 miles away from Tunis and Rome and Egypt were once allies? Hmmmm?

Much more unlikely in the Good Old USA

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