I cant believe it. I was so excited to see this movie, so many great actors...
but jesus what happened.
this is the worst movie I have ever seen.
such a shame
You CLEARLY have not seen many movies. Honestly.
Song I wrote (My Fall):
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R u kidding, this movie is amazing. It has so much to it.
shareWow. I was amazed to see a 7.3 imdb rating. This movie was so bad I walked out. There wasnt a great selection at the theater. my friend wanted to see kung fu panda, I wanted to see this because it starred forrest whittaker. aside from him the cast is a bunch of has beens or never weres. bacon and fraser and garcia are all washed off. Because I never heard of this movie I thought it was new and therefore a post oscar role for forrest. but man, i cant believe he agreed to this mess. The acting is terrible (gellar, fraser, and garcia), it has low prodtuction quality,the dialogue is artificial,the plot is unrealistic and half baked. It is a week attempt to copy great movies like magnolia. falls ldat on its face when movies aim high and dont succeed its worse than being successful at somehing less ambitious. (like maybe kung fu panda. shoulda sen that). These movies are popping up everywhere. designed to be so dramatic and emotional but i end up laughin out load. When I turned to my friend and said lets leave he was visibly relieved. what a waste of time and money. it reminds me of crash and babel. i made it through those but had similar reactions. they really dont respect the audience or take us seariously. Just a weak movie in general. and dont say it was above my head and that i should stick to blockbuster because I dont take that bs either. I am a film buff and watch all type of films from many genres and many countries. I rarely have to walk out of a film, but this was an easy choice. I give it 1 star (1.5 max)out of 4. Im embarrassed fro the cast.
shareI'm embarrassed for your grammar, typing, and general lack of command of the English language. I'm sorry you thought the cast was "all washed off" but I thought Garcia's "angry" was a pretty damn good turn along with Frasier's "pleasure." I won't say it was "above your head" but since you walked out of the movie I don't think you're really qualified to comment on the movie as a whole...so please stow it:) As for your subject line...stop being such an overdramatic douche.
shareMaybe you just didn't get it, but this movie was outstanding. Even Sarah who I normally don't like impressed me. And Brendan wow I think this was one of his best ever performances. I really don't understand why this movie didn't get more recognition.
shareSorry Krisluvkev, don't give me that *beep* about it being over my head or me not getting it. I got everything there was to get, just thought it sucked. This is the typical response from people who dont agree with your opinion. you must not have gotten it. guess what there was nothing to get here. Like brendan fraser seeing the future with no explanation. youd think with that gift hed have made it farther than a thug for some lowely mob boss. really this whole story was a joke. watching fraser as the big bad tough guy with that stupid look on his face. yeah, a real thug who falls in love with some dumb lush. she was really endearing. How could he resist. he left her in his house and said eat what u want but dont go through my *beep* he comes back and she reaarnaged his whole place and was going through his personal affects. when he gets back he says he likes what she did with the place. not at all angry that she has been snoopin through his stuff. yeah and andy garcia dancing to her terrible pop bs song. yeah, that was real quality filmaking. i bet her life was so tough, she just had to gulp down the martinis. and all the stupid flashbacks. her dad dancing like singing in the rain and gettin hit by a car. how dramatic, realistic, and traumatizing. couldnt they have come up with a more realistic death. the part with forrest whittaker was a bit better based soley upon the fact that hes a great actor, but come on. this mundane life spirals out of control so easily. and im sure the firing squad would really shoot to kill even though he wasnt a threat to anyone. in broad day light. oh yeah. its amazing how quickly they brought out the national guard for a simple bank robbery. it was like they had the snipers in position waiting for the robbery.
sorry but the list goes on and on. this movie was not over my head, your head is just a bit below the bar. I think there was a reason they got nothing but a bunch of over the hill past their prime actors for this (save forrest who probably signed on before his oscar win). it was so bad they decided to skip the publicity and ad campaign and just send it straight to video. (was this in the theaters. I never saw a trailer).
sorry guys, i dont mean to be harsh but this was a piece of crap. the actors would probably agree. forrest is probabaly embarrassed that he was involved.
It's so funny that you write up a ridiculously flawed explanation of how "you got it" that just stands to prove how you DIDN'T get it. I mean, you could have just said that it's not a valid defense for the movie; instead you spend a lot of time demonstrating the opposite. That's so rare even in the vast jungle of stupidity known as IMDb Message Boards that I just had to comment.
And no, I am in no way pretending that this is a great movie, but man, you are so lost it's not even funny anymore.
Also, nice contradicting yourself over there. How could you walk out from the theater if it was sent straight to video?
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Idiot. the movie came out in the states in 2007, I live in Europe, where it is being released now, both in Barcelona and Rome. I saw it in Rome last week. Its funny because when I saw the poster, i thought it could be good because forrest whittaker was involved. I have long been a fan of whittaker (not just after Last King like most people, loved him in ghost dog, bird, and other classics), and wondered why an actor who recently won the best actor would be in a small project I'd never heard of. I predicted it would either be a great recent indie, or a crap movie from a few years ago (pre last king) that didnt have wide release. Well it turns out it wasnt a new project he did after his newfound success, glory , fame, but rather a mistake in a great filmography. he probably wishes he never touched it.
And obviously you missed the point. I wasnt trying to prove I got it. Theres nothing to get. Im was just preempting the typical imdb bs, when you dont like a movie that others think is great they say its over your head or you dont get it. I was saying I know you will make this claim about me, but its not the case. no im not some casual moviegoer that sees nothing but half witten blockbusters. no i am a bit of a film buff, watch tons of films and often make risky picks that often end in embarassment like the air i breathe. you have to see movies youve never heard of or dont know much about to find gems (like say old boy for example), but in the process encounter plenty of stinkers like the air i breathe. if you are willing to walk out of crap movies like this one, its well worth it.
Yeah, obviously you weren't trying to prove anything. Yeah, especially not in this part:
Like brendan fraser seeing the future with no explanation. youd think with that gift hed have made it farther than a thug for some lowely mob boss. really this whole story was a joke. watching fraser as the big bad tough guy with that stupid look on his face. yeah, a real thug who falls in love with some dumb lush. she was really endearing. How could he resist. he left her in his house and said eat what u want but dont go through my *beep* he comes back and she reaarnaged his whole place and was going through his personal affects. when he gets back he says he likes what she did with the place. not at all angry that she has been snoopin through his stuff. yeah and andy garcia dancing to her terrible pop bs song. yeah, that was real quality filmaking. i bet her life was so tough, she just had to gulp down the martinis. and all the stupid flashbacks. her dad dancing like singing in the rain and gettin hit by a car. how dramatic, realistic, and traumatizing. couldnt they have come up with a more realistic death. the part with forrest whittaker was a bit better based soley upon the fact that hes a great actor, but come on. this mundane life spirals out of control so easily. and im sure the firing squad would really shoot to kill even though he wasnt a threat to anyone. in broad day light. oh yeah. its amazing how quickly they brought out the national guard for a simple bank robbery. it was like they had the snipers in position waiting for the robbery.
Sorry bud but I have a life. If I am watching a piece of crap im not going to waste my time. No reason to torture myself any further. I did give the movie a chance. In fact I actually paid money and set aside 2 hours of my life for the movie. that is giving it a chance. but when the movie dissappoints even with no expectations (I had never heard of it) its pretty sad. Its funny that your opinion dictates whos a movie buff and who isnt. its is art, you have the right to judge it immediately without introspection or giving it a fair chance. There was a time in show biz where tired acts got booed off stage. this is the modern equivalent. there is a reason that your tv come with a remote control, and yes it does work weather you finished the programming or not. if soemthing sucks there is no reason to feel compelled to watch it. It ha snothing to do with being a movie buff. by the way I have not walked out of many movies in my lifetime and Ive seen plenty, so this really shows how the movie impacted me.
I didnt base any verdict on any arguments. its not a trial its a movie and you judge it as you watch, no argument needed. when a movie sucks it sucks. I was just putting down a few of the idiotic things about the movie in that little blurb. yes it is rushed and incoherent because i wasnt going to formulate a thesis on the movie. And no Im not trying to prove anything. just letting imdb readers know they shouldnt waste their time or money on this pathetic excuse for a film. and how are those points i made wrong. me judging poor character development and unrealistic plot turns is wrong? its opinion. it cant be wrong.
Sorry flthy but you are stupid. I know it was such a long time from your post, I know it's not fair to call someone an idiot but you are and how much, you're the boss of idiots. I'm usually not posting messages but you made me. First of all if someone don't like a movie is not about if getting it or not, is about taste, I could like some genre of movies and dislike others, this doesn't mean that I don't understand a movie, but don't liking the pace, the script, acting, etc. Second your remark is dumb "Once I start a movie, I HAVE to finish it without missing a thing cause only then, I believe, I have a right to express my opinion", is a expression of beeing dumb, it's like eating sheet but you can't stop until not finishing all the plate, God you're dumb! Third if I don't like a movie maybe I will give it some chance because I didn't know from the beginning how good or bad will be, but after some time I could even skip all movie. Of course there are some people that don' get it, for example discussing of Avatar about nudity in the movie. This is an example of not getting it, but in the case of our movie "The Air I breathe" I am really pis*ed of about this one, it was so unrealistic that it become boring. Not talking about Brendan Fraser in a role of a bad guy but his attitude (man if you don't like your life come here in Romania to see what life could mean) was incredible, the stupidity of the girl knowing that the boss is looking for her (answering the phone and remaining also in the house for the boss could capture her) and so on. In conclusion we have the right to like or not a movie even after 5 minutes (if we could have a point), discussing the quality of a movie with right proofs and judging coerently and is our right to express ourselves, because as you did (telling something not right about csenoner), so I can do myself either. If you don't like my comment you can avoid this by having a better attitude in the future.
Un liber cugetator care are curajul sa gindeasca si altfel decit majoritatea
Hey, it really HAS been a long time and boy am I glad I checked this thread out of boredom!
This is rare: the guy I was replying to makes more sense than you. It's like stupidity multiplying each step you take and I seriously hope someone even crazier replies to this after, I dunno, two years or so? I've gotta remember this thread!
I find it intriguing that I have managed to evoke such strong feelings in you that you actually have to WRITE STUFF. I know it must be a strain with all those little letters forming words and sentences. Anyway, I'm thankful that you decided to spend an entire day writing a response to tell me how stupid I am!
First of all if someone don't like a movie is not about if getting it or not, is about taste bla bla bla blaa bla
...is a expression of beeing dumb, it's like eating sheet but you can't stop until not finishing all the plate, God you're dumb
Third if I don't like a movie maybe I will give it some chance because I didn't know from the beginning how good or bad will be, but after some time I could even skip all movie.
Of course there are some people that don' get it, for example discussing of Avatar about nudity in the movie. This is an example of not getting it, but in the case of our movie "The Air I breathe" I am really pis*ed of about this one, it was so unrealistic that it become boring.
In conclusion we have the right to like or not a movie even after 5 minutes (if we could have a point), discussing the quality of a movie with right proofs and judging coerently and is our right to express ourselves
If you don't like my comment you can avoid this by having a better attitude in the future.
Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it was bad. Get over yourself.
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ha ha ha flthy....
You are dead on. lol Sorry csenoner, but I think there was a lot you didn't get. By GET, I mean the point of a lot of aspects of the movie. Of course, you got it as far as understanding what was going on, but I think that maybe since you were already turned off by the movie, that you weren't involved in it enough to find it's true meaning-or at least get something out of it besides what you see on the screen. The gangster could see the future(sure, they could have given us more insight into why he could see the future but they did not), however, he couldn't see the girl's future and if you think about it, then BAMM, you get it, he couldn't see her future because, (referencing in a way back to when the mob bosses nephew was talking about the cyclops only being able to see his death in the future (even though this was slightly different)when he was having the vision of the nephew falling to presumably his death) anyway, he couldn't see the girls future because her future was his death. Which of course intrigued the hell out of him and attracted him in a way that I can forgive the fact that he didn't go all Chris Brown on her for going through his things and cleaning up his place. And as far as Garcia's character dancing to the girl's song is totally believable because if you know anything about the music business, this goes on a lot as gangsters have a lot of money to invest and they often get into the music business for whatever reason-all to make money and obviously not all of them are music buffs or even know the first thing about music and equally as often probably have even no rythm but I'm sure they all start to THINK they do. So that is also believable.
A couple of your other points could be explained as well-at least to the point of explaining why even if one might think this movie isn't great or whatever, it's not really fair to qualify it in the "worse" movie category. At least not on the points that you expressed. But like another member wrote, If this was just not your type of movie or it didn't move you at all, then I can accept that. But judging it on qualities that society uses to judge a film's merit, this film is respectable.
"Also, nice contradicting yourself over there. How could you walk out from the theater if it was sent straight to video?"
Thank you flthy I thought I was the only one who noticed this
That is a good try. I know you think you caught me , but you didnt. I saw this movie in Rome in 2008. At this point whittaker has already won his oscar. when i saw the poster with a pic of whittaker I thought it was his next film, a film that he worked on post last king if scottland. really this was just some stupid movie he worked on before he won the award. he never would have accepted this offer after the award. remeber before he did LKOS he was acting on the shield, so he wasnt exactly shooting down quality film opportunities.
I just checked and it seems the movie was a failure and never really ha d a wide release in the States. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0485851/releaseinfo) It opened in feb 07 in a film festival in greece and never actually saw an american premier (non film festival) until january of 08. there was then a limited release, and that was it. no national theatrical release cuz it was a damn joke. but yes you could see it in italy where the language gap prevented italians from realizing how bad the movie was. and how bad the acting was.
SO it turns out I was right. good try tho.
dude i had the exact same reaction and saw this movie the exact same way you did, only difference is i liked it. i have no idea why, i realize how absoolutely bad everthing in it pretty much is, but i still like it.
but i wanna ask you if you agree with me when i say, this movie couldve been better with 3 changes
1. brenden and forest switch roles
2. make the mob boss look more important (like slevin http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425210/ if ya dont know)
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3. gellar needs to go. i dont care who replaces her. she just needs to go.
it wouldnt make it super but i think thos little changes wouldve greatly helped its chances. and i wouldve liked to see a good ass. dir. on this since this was only the dir. second movie.
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ive seen a lot of movies in my time. and this is the worst. sure theres a lot of crap out there, but most know its crap, this movie tries so hard to be like movies like crash, and it fails, but it dosnt seem to realize how bad it is so it just keeps going and going and going until your back to the douchnozzle robbing a bank and random bitch gettin money she never deserved
*beep* that movie but i still like it
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lol, I think I read 40% of this thread, I find it quite amusing actually.. cause, most people who hated it, said it was one of the worst movies they have ever seen.. seriously, Worse is a very, very harsh word to describe a movie, this pretty much means that its just as bad as say.. Uwe Boll's movies (Postal was kinda funny..). Anywho, I enjoyed this movie, it ranked up on my fav's movie list, very interesting. Sure, not a amazing ending, but, hey, it still works out in the end. Enjoyed it alot.
shareDo me a favor csenoner....next time, just leave it at "I didn't like the movie."
Your attempts at defending your point of view is pathetic; you don't really need to defend it, it's an opinion, and everyone has it.
"Trying to tell people not to waste their time" is ridiculous as everyone has different tastes.
I personally liked the movie. Loved it? Naw. Liked it.
I can think of MANY bad movies, and this is not one of them.
Leave movie discussion to others with a more mature ability to critique.
I couldn't agree with csenoner more. This is one of the first time i have ever switched off a movie and not watched it until the end. It was complete and utter nonsense. Oh yea the point i switched off was when Sarah whatsherface and that utter moron of an actor Fraser were about to get it on. Just another scene they lashed into the movie with no prior thought. Compulsary sex scene ? oh there we go... building up an interesting story? nah why bother.
It was made for morons who just like violent films and dont ask too many questions...
csenoner - sorry, how can you critique a movie which you didn't watch to the end. You also mention that you had the same reaction to Crash and Babel which suggests you probably don't like or appreciate this sort of film. You've just got to stay to the end if you want to trash a movie (Barry Norman, probably the worlds most famous film critic said that by the way).
What did you make of Memento or Pulp Fiction? Just interested thats all, a simple great / good /bad / utter crap will do as an answer
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I don't know what it is, but its weird and pissed off!
Wow your quite a little *beep* talker arnt ya? Maybe you should just shut the *beep* up, i mean really its probabaly for your own good.
shareSee, here is your problem. You didn't finish watching the film so all of your questions about what made the movie bad is irrelevant, because if you actually finished watching the film you would have realized that he was wrong and at that point his life began to change. But since you didn't stick around til the end you really don't have valid opinion of the movie and if you had read the other person's post, she said I don't think it was over your head. The person didn't say it was. And to say that Bacon and Andy Garcia are washed out also shows that you really have no idea about acting at all. Sarah and Forest were really good here and the fact that you stated you went and saw for Whitaker leaves me to believe you actually left the theater because he was killed in the beginning and you had no real interest in the movie to begin with. I also think this was a different kind of movie for Forrest. People said they didn't like Jim Carrey in The Number 23. But I did. It showed he could act.
Also the poster had said that you decided to attack was that maybe it just wasn't your kind of movie. That is not insulting you in case you didn't know that. That is just saying that The Air I Breathe was not your kind of movie. Most horror films are not my kind of movies. And space movies in the sci-fi genre aren't really my cup of tea either. People like certain kinds of movie, this didn't happen to be your kind.
Don't always assume that just because someone doesn't agree with you about a movie that they are necessarily insulting you, it makes you look arrogant and foolish. Now I know I insulted you and I don't really care.
I guess I'll reiterate, your "analysis" is juvenile, short-sighted, and as un-inspired as your use of language.
Frasier's character is given the gift of foresight and doesn't do much with it ... until he loses it and tries to change his life. That's some pretty interesting story telling to me.
Quit being such a douche...read a couple stories that have some character development...
I pay a lot of attention to the world of film and i think if anyone really has more than a passing interest in cinema then they will know that this is not a good example of the medium. If you like it then that is your preference and perhaps founded within the constraints of your knowledge and no one can argue with that. But what understanding did you glean from this film that I may have missed? What made it resonate? I thought it was a hidious copycat of successful patchwork films from the last decade or so - the dull or ridiculous storylines linked and intertwined through a cliched act of 'fate' and played out by actors who wished they were elsewhere. The characters were cardboard cut-outs with no past or future and the pacing was extremely baffling. I found it completely forgettable, to the extent that I am interested to know what you found memorable.
If you say that people didn't 'get' it, please, illuminate us.
Edit - This thread has made me want to dig out Amores Perros to see how a car crash can be the constant in a trio of interesting storylines.
The OP and others just don't understand great filmmaking.
I have seen Crash, and I thought it was VERY MEDIOCRE. Bland acting except for Micheal Pena, who was excellent in it.
I have seen Magnolia, and its a fav of mine.
I saw The Air I Breathe, and I absolutely loved it, great acting from Gellar (Best performance to date) and EXCELLENT performances from Garcia and Fraser. Hell, even Emile Hirsch was great for such a minor role as Tony, the cousin of Garcia's "Fingers". Bacon was okay, I liked his story though.
Jehio Lee deserved much more recognition for this film.
It is so depressing, but at the end, it is uplifting to know each of the four main characters, though not in the way you'd expect, recieved a (semi) happy ending.
SPOILERS:
Gellar (Sorrow): A New life to look forward too.
Whitaker (Happiness): Finally "found a way out" but not in the way you'd expect.
Fraser (Pleasure): The most unhappiest, but he met Sorrow, and actually realized his presence had an uplifting effect on people: i.e. Tony (Emile Hirsche) being curteous to people before heading on his plane.
Bacon (Love): He had a great ending, his crush was saved, and he helped Sorrow by giving her his car so she could escape Fingers.
END OF SPOILERS
One of the most magnificent movies I've ever seen.
I got $50 on the OP and the others who bashed this, just looked it up on Wikipedia, dumb idiots, and didn't have anything else to do but to hang around and post dumb s*** on a great movies message board.
you owe me and everyone else 50 bucks and you dont know *beep*
bad acting
bad directing
bad script
im not gonna defend my points because in film there is no point. film speaks for itself and this one spoke only *beep* onto a fan
see this guy rotten johnny gets it too. nice to hear someone talking sense
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this movie was god awful. predictable. daytime TV acting. boring. deep? so many layers? don't make me laugh.
"I really don't understand why this movie didn't get more recognition. "
Because it has a terrible script that contained wooden dialogue and was strung together using pathetic little notions, notions that an intelligent audience (i use the word intelligent as these types of movies attempt at concept over action, they desire thought from the viewer) is supposed to react to in an emotional and considered way but are really just embarrassed by. Every life has a plan? There are no coincidences? Oooo for f ucks sake!! Cringe.
It is a really poor piece of film-making. The script never once felt like it had been looked at by a fact checker, an editor nor an actual writer.
There isn't much worse in film than a movie which tries to be smart but is real dumb, real stupid.
That's why.
WORST MOVIE EVER!!! like a highschool project
shareEveryone, listen to yourselves! Just because you watch a lot of movies doesn't mean that your OPINION of a movie is any better than anyone else's. If you liked this movie, then you either got something out of it or you were entertained. You're not unintelligent because of it. If you didn't like the movie, then it simply didn't resonate with you or you didn't find it entertaining. It's not because you're "not getting it." I absolutely love B-Rated Zombie and Vampire movies, not because the actors are giving great performances or there's some deeper meaning to the movies. They're entertaining to me, period. And no, I am not a dumb young low life who is uneducated. I am college educated, world traveled, and yes I like B rated movies. Was this movie a blockbuster in my opinion? No. Was it entertaining? Well, it was entertaining enough that I didn't turn it off half way through. Sheesh, stop tooting your own horns at how your opinion of the movie is the one that matters.
"Don't be modest; you're not that important." -Golda Meir
Whoever doeasnt like this and calls it terrible is an idoit. Its one of the most beautiful moives Ive ever seen. The Acting was top notch. Gellar was fantasic. She derserves at least and Oscar nod.
The movie was outstanding. You jerks out there who say its the worst movie ever need to get a life or watch paris hilton and britney spears movies, then maybe you will see what bad acting and what a bad movie are.
this movie deserves a best picture nod but because of jerks out there :ahem, some of the ones on this board: it wont happen.
You can think what you want to, but do you think IMDB wouldnt have it up in the 7's if it wasnt a good movie. Rotten tomatoes wouldnt have it @ 6o% if it was a good movie. Paste magazine wouldnt said it was brilliant if it was a good movie. I could go on forever. Please tell me the losers out there would though this movie is bad GET IT THROUGH YOUR SKULL ITS A A-LIST MOVIE!!!!!!!
Learn it. Live it. Love it. ~ Jawbreaker
if u call the people who didnt like this film 'losers' you're the first loser dear smg101. grow up dear! even if i like sarah michelle and she did a decent job here (Oscar nod??? naaaaaaaa), the movie is simply bad. And if you think this is a masterpiece you simply dont know what a good film is made of. Period.
shareI agree, this movie was utterly bad.
When you want to make a movie that is serious/poignant etc., at least make it good! This movie tries hard but reaches nowhere near the standard expected of these types of films.
It's certainly not the worst i've seen, but nor is it the best. If i have to compare it, i would say a poor cross of several films but the butterfly effect springs to mind. Also it has severe pacing issues, not to mention a poor inter-linked storyline. Almost like a Pulp fiction rip off where several stories converge, but with out the great cinematography, snappy lines, oh and great script. Still it is watchable but without any longevity, a once only veiwing.
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Oh, yes, you are right. It seems that lately some famous actors prefer this kind of garbage.
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