Is the story real?
I wonder if the story told in the movie is real? Is there any evidence?
shareThe story was not told by ezop. The ezop at the end of the film refers to the director Ezel Akay. Karagoz and Hacivat are main figures of turkish shadow puppet theater and are believed to be historical characters lived circa 1300 a.d. Greeks claim that these characters are Greek in origin, yet the names Karagoz and Hacivat mean black eyed and the pilgrim ( in islamic sense) ivaz ( a muslim name) in turkish respectively. The story told in the film is completely fiction taking real persons and historical events as its background.
shareyea thats right. thanks for the information
shareshadow puppet masters say that there is no evidance supporting that karagöz-hacivat is real...also it is a legend..legends have no evidances
share"shadow puppet masters say that there is no evidance supporting that karagöz-hacivat is real...also it is a legend..legends have no evidances"
Turkish history and Anatolian culture are full of legends needed to be evaluated by greatly-imagined and well-written scripts. Just like this one...
Ezel Akay, Cagan Irmak, Tolga Ornek, Nuri Bilge Ceylan, Veli Celik, Baris Pirhasan, Mert Baykal, Levent Kazak, Raci Sasmaz and Hasan Karacadag...
A lucky era for Turkish cinema...
A chance of building a Turkish cinema industry on a healthy base...
After watching Hababam Sinifi 3.5 and Kurtlar Vadisi, this film worked as a medicine for me. Contrary to ridicilous scripts of the first two, HvKNÖ has wit, style and heart. It is good to see some intelligent humor in Turkish cinema, actually this is what Turkish humor really was and should be, cruel and witty.
Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.
Not all Greeks claim that the characters are Greek in origin...:-) Obviously, as with all folk legends, the Karagöz legend was adapted by many folk artists through time. It shows the roots of the common folk culture the people of the Byzantine and later Ottoman Empire shared. In 19th century Greek shadow theatre - the version that exists today - Karagiozis and Hadjiavatis are shown as Greeks during late Ottoman times: the always hungry, uneducated, volatile, dramatic (same elements in turkish) Karagiozis never makes it out of his misery, while the smart, cunning and cowardly Hadjiavatis portrays the man that arranges himself with the occupation and collaborates with the Bey and the Pasha.
Great film, showing the complex history of the area, a very courageous effort. The story could have been better written, though, some details were too much slapstick. Eyvallah, Ezel.
there are real parts. hacivat and karagöz realy lived. hacivat was smarter. and their death was something about the Orhan Gazi Mosueqe
sharethe story is real but somehow changed. these people existed and a shadow theatre was done after them called Karagöz. You can still watch this traditional Turkish theatre. The tales vary depending on the puppetier but the characters are still preserved. The puppets are made with transparrent animal skin and painted so that their shadow looks coloured on the white sheet.
shareit is a fairy tale and a dull story. I've watched a porno movie of "karagoz hadcivat"..it was more funny!!
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A great story lies beneath this movie. Actually no need to wonder about is this real or not, but this story is kinda legend about old times, determines the beginning years of a great empire...
If u already ve watched this movie, i think u can easily understand the message about its reality... Likewise Orhan Bey tells everybody "I approve both if it is real or it is drama"... that was an obvious message i guess...
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A great story lies beneath this movie. Actually no need to wonder about is this real or not, but this story is kinda legend about old times, determines the beginning years of a great empire...
If u already ve watched this movie, i think u can easily understand the message about its reality... Likewise Orhan Bey tells everybody "I approve both if it is real or it is drama"... that was an obvious message i guess...
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No, I am sure it is not real story,this is just fiction iamgination of Levent Kazak.the real story of Hacivat and Karagoz is very diffrent from this movie.But I like this movie its very fun to watch.Actor Haluk bilginer was GREAT!
shareKaragöz and Hacivat themselves are supposedly modeled on two laborers whose banter entertained their co-workers (and slowed down the work) during the construction of a mosque in Bursa during the reign of Orhan I (who ruled the nascent Ottoman Empire 1326–1359). They were executed for the resulting delay of the work, but became folk heroes. One version of the legend says that a contemporary of theirs, one Sheyh Küshteri, made camel-hide puppets of them and began to perform plays