I think The Brits alone would have handled this story better. So many complex issues and solved with too much violence , welcome to American TV.
shareTalking about Miracle Day I suppose? Then of course you're right. Look at children of the earth.
Miracle day is complete *beep* compared to the English work.
shareThe Brits did handle it. It wasn't just Americans. You had British producers, British writers and a British creator. I don't think it moving to America had anything to do with the quality. Torchwood was always uneven, always wildly inconsistent in terms of plotting, characterization, arcs even when the production crew was entirely British, sometimes moreso. MD was more of the same. And you can hardly argue that Torchwood wasn't gratuitously violent even before the Americans got their hands on it. Even COE barely manages to stay on the right side of not simply becoming torture porn when it comes to violence.
shareI worded it poorly. The choices in the cast were bad. Pullman is horrible as is Mekai... The miracle day mini series was a starz production. The series went tits up when they started killing everyone off.
shareThe Brits did handle it. It wasn't just Americans. You had British producers, British writers and a British creator. I don't think it moving to America had anything to do with the quality. Torchwood was always uneven, always wildly inconsistent in terms of plotting, characterization, arcs even when the production crew was entirely British, sometimes moreso. MD was more of the same. And you can hardly argue that Torchwood wasn't gratuitously violent even before the Americans got their hands on it. Even COE barely manages to stay on the right side of not simply becoming torture porn when it comes to violence.
I preferred TW when it was set in Cardiff and when it was monster of the week style. It still had a lot of problems to work through, but I thought it gave the stories it could tell more scope and the Torchwood team dealing with worldwide issues was never all that convincing to me even in COE. It was already barely credible that these five, frequently incompetent people were the only ones standing between Cardiff and an alien invasion. Plus the chemistry between the original team and their interactions is what made putting up with the inconsistent story telling and all the many other problems with the show worthwhile for me. But the problem in MD wasn't the move to America or the number of episodes it was mostly the story telling. Too much focus on set pieces and explosions that possibly looked cool, but didn't add up to much and ideas and characters that didn't really go anywhere much in the end. No real focus on the actual effects of the 'miracle' beyond the whole world deciding to set up Nazi style camps, too much telling not enough showing. And what was the point of having the team hiding and on the run when the people chasing them never seemed that interested in catching even when they did catch up to them. All that did was remove the audience even more from the Miracle since the team was mostly removed and they were essentially our eyes. The world is supposedly collapsing, disease is apparently so rampant they're literally dragging the undead bodies out of their homes to burn them even when it isn't really necessary, but Gwen, supposedly one of the world's most wanted, can fly back and forth between America and the UK at will even after she blows up government property on camera, with far more ease than most people manage when things are 'normal'. Even the villains at the centre of it all didn't add up to much in the end. MD was an interesting idea with poor execution.
COE worked as a five episode story because at it's core it was a pretty straight-forward, uncomplicated story and even then it had its weaknesses (Plus it owed a lot to the film Quatermass). Ten episodes should have been a good length for a story like MD, but it felt like they wanted to just regurgitate the COE formula (Worldwide crisis, TW on the run from nefarious government villains, Jack being the cause of everything only to magically come up with the quick fix solution in the end/ Gwen shooting/punching stuff and giving some third act grand speech), without really considering whether made sense or not. It was very good at the shock and awe, but not at giving the story any real depth or follow through. It mostly just glossed over its entire point - what happens when suddenly no-one in the world can die. Blaming everything on Starz ignores the fact that often the writing just wasn't that great.
You right the story telling was a problem miricle day had lots of problems which resulting in something that should never have made it to broadcast.
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I think The Brits alone would have handled this story better. So many complex issues and solved with too much violence , welcome to American TV.
And of course, they had to have "diversity", in all it's glory. Wales has a black population of.6%, yet every other character was black! Total b.s.
share"And of course, they had to have "diversity", in all it's glory. Wales has a black population of.6%, yet every other character was black! Total b.s."
Racists are stupid everywhere.
"...The ethnic make-up of Cardiff's population at the time of the 2011 census was: 84.7% White, 1.6% mixed White and Black African/Caribbean, 0.7% mixed White and Asian, 0.6% mixed other, 8% Asian, 2.4% Black, 1.4% Arab and 0.6% other ethnic groups..."
From Wiki via http://neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/LeadTableView.do?a=7&b=6275349&c=Cardiff&d=13&e=62&g=6497663&i=1001x1003x1032x1004&m=0&r=1&s=1480017305477&enc=1&dsFamilyId=2477&nsjs=true&nsck=false&nssvg=false&nswid=1536
The show takes place in the most ethnically diverse part of Wales. 4% of the population is black or mixed black/white - which is more than SIX times the percentage you wrote. And the city is 15.3 non-white.
Furthermore, a large portion of the show within the U.K. also took place in London, such as when they dealt with "the Government". London is, as you know, as follows"
"Ethnic groups in the 2011 census
White (59.8%)
Asian (18.4%)
Black (13.3%)
Mixed (5%)
Arab (1.3%)
Other (2.1%)...
...15.6 per cent of London's population are of Black and mixed-Black descent. 13.3 per cent are of full Black descent, with those of mixed-Black heritage comprising 2.3 per cent..."
from Wiki via
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/census/2011-census/key-statistics-for-local-authorities-in-england-and-wales/rft-table-ks201ew.xls
Then of course they move on to the areas in and around Washington DC, New York City, and Los Angeles - three of the largest and MAJORITY NON-WHITE parts of the U.S.
Again, stupid racist being stupid.
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