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What kind of *beep* sh*t is that?!!!

Seriouslylah, why are those kind of people so close-minded wan?
They no brain issit? I think they no taste osolah...haiyoh...listen to what happened oso make me feel so sicklah...

GAH!!!! Curse you closed-minded people!!!
I curse that you have cirit birit for a week!

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Yea I know!!!! It's so *beep* up!! Did anyone happen to catch "Fenomena Seni"? That Raja Azmi woman sounds like a right old b*tch!!! Racist mofo. Didn't get to see it coz I live in the UK.

Damnit I got so bloody angry just reading about it! It also made me feel so sad how some people in our society still think like that, more reason for me to not go back and live in msia. Yasmin Ahmad's film "mencemar budaya"???? Wat the hell??!!!!

Ur right! They should cirit birit for a month more like! GAH!

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Yay! High five sister!

I didn't see it, but hopefully they bashed Mawi even more. I think the people at RTM are brainwashed into thinking that movies that contain only Malays are worth to be watched. You know, the ones where the girls are soft and the guys are the heros...
I think there are 2 types of Malays: the open-minded changing ones and the close-minded backwards ones. Luckily I have an open-minded Malay friend, she can bitch about those close-minded people as good as I can. We both love Sepet. muahaha.

Stay right where you are, faizah! I may be coming too!

Hope their cirit birit already start...

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i'd define that a little deeper:

there are two primary types of MALAYSIANS (all races included), where films are concerned:

i. those who understands that films can be a social-recording.

ii. those who sees that films should only be a vision of ideals.




the rest falls in between LOL...

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A-HAH! Now I totally agree with YOUR statement!

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you know, when people have one narrow minded views based on religion perspective. They can't see why people keeping killing other people for religion purpose. They also think the religion they value is the most superior, while others are not; going to hell. These kind of people they do not know; at the same way they project racism. Why is it so wrong for a malay people to come hang out with chinese at the restaurant just because they serve babi? That's their culture and that does not mean they are uncivilized. Playing the religion card and the malay privileges is the easiest way to blame others for their ignorant. They are the weakest link and I hope many malaysians, especially new generations will come up as a modern thinker, rather than using religion (kaut sumer dalil2 dalam kitab) to weight social matters; they are short sighted.

.... they have not bashed the homosexual issues in Malaysia...yet I forseen a bit change in coming years. I want to see people support indivual rights; to talk, to question government intentions etc.I want Malaysia to become a liberal country; not because of its association with westerns but for its indivual choices and religion is not a tool for evangelism; rather an indivual choice.

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don't you know? Raja Azmi is like, a multiple-award winning director/producer and an Islamic wife which we all should emulate :P

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people like them are so lame and old fashioned and should be extinct..

we newer generations are gonna show them that we can all get along regardless of race and religion. die close minded idiots! errghhh.. they get on my nerves.

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"Pada akhir program Fenomena Seni itu, diumumkan sebanyak 59 peratus penonton yang menghantar khidmat pesanan ringkas (SMS) bersetuju dengan tajuk program itu bahawa filem-filem Yasmin mencermarkan budaya Malaysia"

ye lah. pasal kebanyakannye org2 tua yg dah pencen je yg tengok program tu. bengong..

edit: okay forgive me for being emotional. i'm just tired of all the hypocrisy..

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filem ni memang perosak budaya. tahniah kepada anda yang tertipu!

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if youre a muslim then you should read this. this blog speaks for it all. if youre not then i couldnt care less.

Kalau tak reti agama jangan syarahkan agama dalam filem.Jangan rosakkan orang.


http://tehranifaisal.blogspot.com/2006/04/gubra-yang-sesat-lagi-menyesatkan.html

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This Faisal Tehrani, whoever HE IS, DOESN'T KNOW how to speak in correct BM.
Come onlah, DISKUSINYA? WTF kinda BM is that? Don't know about PERBINCANGAN meh? Lou toh wan...

And honestly, I myself was SHOCKED when I watched Gubra. I was ten thousand more times shocked when I read the article in the Malay Mail about Remp-It.
Wow. Did you guys see the screencap they put in? Total p0rn man. Disgusting.

To think that GUBRA mencemarkan budaya and Remp-It encourages "healthy youth interaction" is, quite decidedly, STUPID.
There are so many negative sides about Remp-It that FAR OVERSHADOWS Gubra, but did anyone COMPLAIN about it? Did anyone MOGOK-ed about it?

Nope. And I'm SO DAMN FRIGGIN HAPPY THEY DIDN'T, because REMPIT DOES NOT, NOT NOT NOT DESERVE ANY REGONITION nor free publicity. THAT'S what I call mencemarkan minda golongan belia.

REMPIT IS DISGUSTING. GROSS. DISGUSTING.

PS: I HAVE TO say, I have yet to see Remp-It and all of my comments on it, therefore, is only the PMS talking. Yup.


Miss Suanie! The famous blogger! You come to imdb too?! I feel so honored to be in the same board as you! Wow!

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why should you compare gubra with remp-it? have you watched remp-it? i guess not. you shouldn't compare gubra with rempit coz its a different genre afterall, in remp-it the message is CLEAR. remp-it is a negative pasttime where the hero dont live and be respected long. but in gubra, its a confusing movie. ive watched this movie and i still think about the questions and theme of the movie til now. i wonder if a 14yo girl watching this movie will understand them. it gives a wrong potrayal of our culture. i couldnt care whats inside Yasmin's head but dont try to preach people with smething she cant answer herself!

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erm.. "narrow minded".. thats the only 'word' 4 ppl who think that GUBRA is waste of time.. if u use ur brain to think a little bit, u can c the negative and positive culture potray by Yasmin.. neway, i really admire the courage for such muvie and some of the phrase really mean alot.. myadvise is jz watch d movie with ur brain wide open.. and u'll enjoy and get d hidden message..;)

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why should you compare gubra with remp-it? have you watched remp-it? i guess not.

BECAUSE, many people have done the same with Gubra and Sepet. They cha kuat kuat but don't admit they didn't watch it.

but in gubra, its a confusing movie. ive watched this movie and i still think about the questions and theme of the movie til now. i wonder if a 14yo girl watching this movie will understand them.


EXCUSE ME!
I AM 17, MY SISTERS ARE 10 AND 12, AND WE ALL LOVE GUBRA AND SEPET! It's not like Gubra is a movie for adults only.
Hello, look at the world we're living in.
14 yo boys are already into expensive pens and watches, and 15 yo girls are already printing books, and here you are, saying that a 14 yo girl cannot understand the movie. Why else would they be obssesed over Lord of the Rings?


it gives a wrong potrayal of our culture. i couldnt care whats inside Yasmin's head but dont try to preach people with smething she cant answer herself!

Wrong potrayal? Then what do you say of Rempit? Stupid potrayal?
At the VERY LEAST, Sepet and Gubra both showed a lot, if not little of Malaysian culture. Come onlah dey, don't tell me you never see people selling pirated VCDs before?
Even my friend said that he finally remembered that Ipoh is in Perak!

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there there. this time you compared gubra with lord of the rings :rolleyes: hahah.. its funny the way how a 17yo girl think. this is some question i want you to answer then.

- why the movie always starts with 'bismillah'(which it says as 'in the name of God, the most loving and compassionate')

-whats the motive of the bilal intentionally touched the maimed dog?

-what kind of a muslim wife suddenly picking up some stranger's chest hair?

-what kind of pious muslim family befriending a couple of prostitute?

oh, now you say Islam is a tolerant religion ya? :rolleyes: gubra is an inter faith agenda film a la John Hick, known for his advocacy of religious pluralism who stressed that all religion is the same. is this what Yasmin trying to preach? so much of a malaysian movie. pfftt.

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salaam.

sorry, sarah, but gubra is NOT about pluralism. answer the 4 questions you yourself asked with intelligence, imagination and knowledge, and you'll understand the film better.

i'm afraid the 17-year old IS much smarter than you. no offense.

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-why the movie always starts with 'bismillah'(which it says as 'in the name of God, the most loving and compassionate')

-whats the motive of the bilal intentionally touched the maimed dog?

-what kind of a muslim wife suddenly picking up some stranger's chest hair?

-what kind of pious muslim family befriending a couple of prostitute?



Holy cow, Yasmin Ahmad is actually here! Or not. Ah well. Wise answers anyway.

Hey Sarah, here are your answers:
1. Why ah? Hmm...Why not?

2. No motive. We should all treat animals humanely. Takkan dia nak tendang anjing tu? Kejamlah itu macam...nanti SPCA komplen apa macam?

3. What kind? The kind that lives in the 21st century. *sarcasm*

4. What kind? Well, the kind that are Malaysians that know that no matter WHAT we try to do to weed them out, they (prostitutes) will still be here.

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salaam.

sorry, sarah, but gubra is NOT about pluralism. answer the 4 questions you yourself asked with intelligence, imagination and knowledge, and you'll understand the film better.

i'm afraid the 17-year old IS much smarter than you. no offense

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oh yeah? i would like to know what kind of intelligence, imagination and knowledge you can find in this movie. i guess you havent watched a lot of movies before. i guess you compare gubra and sepet with 'sembilu' and 'cinta kuliah'. thats why you kinda culture shocked when this sepet and gubra came out. wanna do a simple but thought provoking movie? look at American Beauty, Pulp Fiction or Malena. gubra and sepet is a garbage film just like many other malay movies. i cant find anything great about it either technically or not. to PREACH people with garbage is NOT genius!

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Uh, hi. I just dropped by 2 say... Okay, xde pape. *sigh*

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god, this is what i hate about close minded people. grow up woman!
they never understand the world we're living in now.
it's written bismillah because its praising Allah ok. dont you bace that when u eat? when you do anything?

about the muslim family and the prostitutes.
well, at least the muslim family give them company and advice when the motherly prostitute needs help when she asked the uztazah to give her son mengaji classes at night. not just treat them liked little *beep* they're humans too. that was on their mind. no matter what they do, they're still have feelings and breathe like us. the muslim wife is very open minded and have faith that people can change into better, instead of looking down at them and treating the prostitutes like *beep* she gave them advice about religion so that she could bertaubat into a better woman. if she doesnt bother abt her. god, knows what will happen to her in the movie. maybe she will be murdered to the father of her child? think la. its actually a very good moral to any kind of people whether religious or not. no matter what you do, help them to be a better person. in different race or religion. they're still human. isnt that what's written in the Quran? help humanity to be peaceful and better. and insyaallah, they will be better because they're living in a dreadful life and religion is the answer for happiness. sheesh.

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sarahroxwhateverhernameis thinks that by reading faisal tehrani's blog, she suddenly becomes an islamic expert. do you really understand what amar makruf nahi mungkar means, other than what you picked up from faisal's article?

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To Sarah,

-- This movie is not intended to pursue hate via religious doctrines as most malay fundamentalists like Tehrani attempts to preach. This movie is so well constructive, and talks about the very common issues that most malaysians hardly ever realize or even take the audacity to rectify the internalized self-hatred and racism with each other. This movies speaks for liberty that free from religious propaganda and particularly emphasizes on the utmost humanity attribute, Love, which is. Gubra is an ideal movie that pokes fun about petty little things that most of us, as malaysian, always practice in daily life. Just because the bilal touched the dog, does not mean he just commits sin nor he was a despicable man from islamic point of view. It just poke fun, on how, a cute little dog is being treated differently just because the dog is a dog. Save it what the doctrines say about 'samak' or animals that we shall not associate with; touching, providing foods, bath etc; In short, giving them an affection as much as the dog is also Gods creation. Oh just because I am so alim ulamak, I cant talk to the prostitue, because, what we have been taught since we were kids, dont talk to chinese, indians because they are kafir. Silly me, Ive been taught hate in speech. I realize its all about respect. This movie briliantly stick the neck out of religious people, especially moslems in malaysia, who think, unlike any other religions, Islam owns the absolute truth and anybody who doesnt follow is deceived by the absolute truth and doom to hell. Ironically, we face the fact, these kinda people breed hate speech and eventually ignite chaos in mayhem due to a complete religious debacle.

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-whats the motive of the bilal intentionally touched the maimed dog?
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Didnt the bilal said '....nanti kena langgar lagi kang' indicating the bilal had once saved the dog. And what's wrong with touching a dog. Yeah, i know it's najis mughallazah. we can always samak rite, even my nearby surau has a tin of dirt to use as the purpose to samak.

i never come across a verse of Quran said we, the muslims, are not allowed to touch dogs and such alike. I'm kinda offended when my chinese friends ask me when one day we stumbled upon a dog, "why arent you afraid of that dog, bukan dosa ke kalo muslim pegang anjing?"

and i was like WTH!!!


-what kind of pious muslim family befriending a couple of prostitute?
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if you stressed out amar makruf nahi mungkar, dont you notice how relieved and bersyukur the bilal's wife's face, when the younger prostitute said she want to stop doing her 'job'(prostitution). Didnt that indicates that the bilal's wife pray so that her neighbour received hidayah from allah? As i recall from learning form 1 or 2's pendidikan agama islam, that is amar makruf and nahi mungkar(preventing by heart). If the bilal's family shun the prostitutes, i think they will further drown in their sins and they will have no place to go if they want to bertaubat.

huhu cool, me, age 15 thinks more than you, adult.

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Cool! Another teenager here! You're 15? So I guess you're going to sit for your PMR this year!

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Can someone tell me the translation in English?

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