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Did anyone??? *SPOILERS*


Hey, did anyone else cry when Ewen Mcgregors Character died? I like balled my eyes out and mt friends were paying me out.

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No, but I almost did! That was so unexpected, at least for me not knowing much about Beatrix Potter. It was heartbreaking! This movie was similiar to "Becoming Jane", but better. I really liked it otherwise.



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i cried like a baby ... i loved this movie!!!

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ah come on jbphill84 it was flaming obvious he was going to die. (I didn't know about pooter's life) 3 monthsaway, the goodbye at the train i knew he was a deadman the moment they finished kissing.

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Actually it was a complete surprise to me. If I'd known about Beatrix Potter's life than it wouldn't have. I understand what you're saying about the film cliches though.

Tennesee Williams once wrote: "We All Live in a House of Fire".

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Yeah, a surprise to me too.

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I cried the first time i saw the movie when it originally came out and every time i've watched it since then. Every time it pops up on cable tv i can't NOT watch it, even knowing i'll be clutching the tissue box by the end.
I know with the ending, everyone sees it as a happy ending because she married her childhood friend but for me it's actually quite tragic.. her love for Norman was this passionate, i-can't-live-without-you kind of love whereas with William Heelis it was more a relaxed, friendship love. So it's extremely sad to think she had to settle for less in the end.

Team Renee+Ewan is film-making gold, loved them in Down with Love, love them even more in this one :)

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Yes, I bawled when it happened. I hadn't read anything on her life, so it was a surprise. I still do whenever I watch this movie.

According to Wikipedia, Norman Warne died of pernicious anemia, which manifests itself in vague symptoms like clumsiness, fatigue, pins and needles numbness and pale skin, stuff unremarkable and that would go unnoticed by anyone. And if untreated (there was no treatment at the time) it can kill in weeks.

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>>>>her love for Norman was this passionate, i-can't-live-without-you kind of love whereas with William Heelis it was more a relaxed, friendship love. So it's extremely sad to think she had to settle for less in the end.<<<<<

Or you could look at it as Potter being extremely fortunate to have found both kinds of love when she had thought she was never going to find love at all. She was an old maid who at 32 was long past the traditionally desirable age for marriage when she met Norman. She was very fortunate to have found love with two men who valued her free spirit, intelligence, and quirky personality.

That "i-can't-live-without-you kind of love" is a passion that really doesn't last very long in the face of day to day life. It mellows and matures and turns into a relaxed, friendship kind of love that sees one through the trials and tribulations and sometimes sheer boredom of the long years of day to day life.

Besides, we don't know that she and Heelis *didn't* eventually share a passionate love too. We only saw the beginning stages of their relationship. She and Norman weren't passionately in love at first either. They were good friends who admired each other at first.

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I didn't but I felt really bad for Beatrix, it would have been easier for her if she had cried right then and there, but since I suppose her genteel upbringing at the time dictates against open outpouring of emotions, made it even more difficult to bear, made breathing for me difficult understanding the unspeakable grief she was feeling during the scene talking with Millie. I was thinking this is "so very unfair and cruel", especially when she had fought her parents, specifically her "parvenu" mother who was vociferous about the "unacceptability of a tradesman", matching her with absurdly pathetic characters as prospects for a life mate. Also considering the fact that she seemed to have no friends during her childhood except for her brother who was nowhere during her grown-up years. Now here is a sweet, appreciative man, very supportive of her and devoted to family life and good-looking to boot, then he dies so suddenly!!!!?????





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Beatrix couldn't cry because she had no official cause. Remember, the sister couldn't think of a reason for the family to even postpone the funeral because the engagement had not been announced. She was, technically, disallowed from mourning in public -- it would have been seen as indecent and any announcement of their secret engagement would have cause a scandal (thank God we live 100 years later!). Even his brothers, her publishers, had no clue, which is why they were so indifferent to her. It must have made her loss so much more terrible to bear.

Fortunately, she was a resilient woman who found new purpose, and a new love, for her life.

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Hi,noblwish!

It's July 26, ('08) 8:16 am, and a beloved member of the family who is recovering from a recent sickness is sleeping peacefully now and I was able to take a quick look at another message board I'm quite fond of, also post a brief message in two threads there. I was just ready to close the computer to take a nap but then I got curious how this Miss Potter Board is doing since the time I made my last post sometime in February of this year, I remember it was in a thread about Rene's appearance.

This thread is at the top of the board and decided to see what the recent posters have to say. I opened this thread in the nest layout and I get it that your post of July 20 this year is a rejoinder (I hope I'm not mistaken to assume it is so?) to my own - made last September 11 last year. Quite a number of months separating the two posts, isn't it? But thanks, just the same for taking the time.

My post (Sept 11, 2007) I didn't but I felt really bad for Beatrix, it would have been easier for her if she had cried right then and there, but since I suppose her genteel upbringing at the time dictates against open outpouring of emotions, made it even more difficult to bear, made breathing for me difficult understanding the unspeakable grief she was feeling during the scene talking with Millie.

Yours, noblwishBeatrix couldn't cry because she had no official cause. Remember, the sister couldn't think of a reason for the family to even postpone the funeral because the engagement had not been announced. She was, technically, disallowed from mourning in public -- it would have been seen as indecent and any announcement of their secret engagement would have cause a scandal (thank God we live 100 years later!). Even his brothers, her publishers, had no clue, which is why they were so indifferent to her. It must have made her loss so much more terrible to bear.

Yes, her loss was terrible, not only to Beatrix - I think it was too for a lot of those who've seen the movie. There was a lot of empathy for Beatrix in that scene.

I've seen this film sometime August of last year and I've re-watch it for a number of times since then and this scene was really one of the more difficult for me to watch. Beatrix was with Millie, a friend, a very close friend, there was only the two of them in it and nobody else and I was thinking, is it still ethically inappropriate during that time to grieve openly to a close friend?

After watching the movie for about three times, I thought Beatrix must be in deep shocked; she asked Millie when the burial will be and it's been over and done with. She was in the stage of unbelief that Warne is gone, so suddenly. Without her even having the chance to say good-bye for the last time, quietly - certainly not to mourn in public. I felt how emotinally numb-shocked she must have been and naturally, after sometime when she was able to grasp its reality, the dam broke and spilled over in a near total mental and emotional breakdown.

And I kept thinking too, afterwards, why Millie hasn't informed Beatrix about this physical weakness in Warne - not even a hint in the movie, that's why it was so unexpected - even to us viewers.

I was thankful that in the end, Beatrix got over the sadness of it all, and found happiness and her real independent, strong self, as a writer and as a person who really cares about others and all that's beautiful in this world. She deserved it all.

I don't think I'll ever tire of watching this movie.

There's this The Dark Knight movie that I've watched recently, (in the big cinmea yet and felt sorry for myself when I remember how I failed to catch Miss Potter on its limited run here in my country)and though I liked TDK very much, I had to pull my Miss Potter DVD again afterwards to renew my faith about life; since the lead character in TDK had such a lonely, sad ending in the film.

I'm glad to notice however, that Miss Potter is still attracting some positive and broad-minded posters in this board. Like you. And others - the recent posters in the Rene Zellwegger's appearance thread: [b]cynsemele, Sparkling Shiraz, bourne, ohkay43, scot3121.

God, I don't have time for a nap now! But it's alright. It was pleasure being here today in the board.

Bye!



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Taorian: Refreshing to see sensible, non-dramatic postings on IMDB for a change! (Not just your postings but from other posters too).

I like sci-fi, blood & gore, car chases, etc, etc but this film proves you don't need any of that to make a good film.

Hope your relation is 100% recovered.

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Thank you for such a lovely, thoughtful post. I was so taken with this movie, I saw it only in part on cable tv, then went out the very next day with my daughter to purchase it. It brings back such lovely memories for both of us. When my daughter was small, I was very keen for her to have lots of good books, good music, and to learn to appreciate that which is lasting and classic that life has to offer. it was to my delight that I found very early on that she loved books and reading. I cannot remember a time that my child did not know how to read. I bought the illustrated Beatrix Potter books for her and we spent many delightful hours, reading about the escapades of her wonderful, magical creatures. Miss Moppet was one of our very favorite characters, as was Jemimah Puddle-Duck These lovely books will be passed down to her children, or a library, if she has no children of her own.

A few weeks ago, when Google's icon was of Peter Rabbit, I knew it must be Beatrix Potter's birthday. I was right. I did some research about her life, and found she had been quite an expert on plants, doing a good deal of observation, writing, and drawing on the subject of botany. Her uncle tried unsuccessfully to obtain permission for her to present her scholarly papers at a university, but that request was denied, based on her gender. She remains today one of the foremost experts on botany and plant life, including fungi, and all types of plant genus.

As for this movie, it was the lack of glamour and emphasis on things far more important that appealed to me. I was completely transported back in time, so effect was the historical settings. It was delighful to see the very figures my daughter and loved, come to life on the screen, just as they must have in Miss Potter's rich imagination. I will admit however, that was the most beautiful Christmas tree I have ever seen.

The tragedy of her life was most touching, but her courage and fortitude offset it with admiration for a very brave woman. Her contributions to her country by the purchasing of farmlands, thereby saving them from development, is still of benefit today.

One poster mentioned that Beatrix Potter had Rheumatic Fever as a child. I also was a victim of that childhood malady, and although it didn't affect my hair, I have a slightly weakened heart and a few other reminders of its visitation on my person. I, too, not being able to exert myself in those days, found solice in a love of books, art, and music - the solitary things that one may do without the necessity of being athletic. My child has a genetic club foot, so hers was a similiar situation. We are all very fortunate that Miss Potter lived as long as she did, for in those days, Rheumatic Fever was almost certainly the forerunner of an early death.

What a delight to see the movie industry take note of these remarkable people of days long since past, and bring them, once again, to life on the screen. I hope it will inspire other parents to introduce their children to the wonderful, magical, and extraordinary world of a very extraordinary woman - Beatrix Potter.

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Here it is over two years after you wrote your post and I wanted to comment on this remark you made. I hope you get to read it. I enjoyed your post very much.


>>>>>And I kept thinking too, afterwards, why Millie hasn't informed Beatrix about this physical weakness in Warne - not even a hint in the movie, that's why it was so unexpected - even to us viewers.<<<<<<

I don't know that Warne necessarily had a physical weakness. Medical care was practically non-existant back in those days compared to the miracles of modern medicine. There were no real medical tests to determine what was causing the symptoms one was experiencing, no antibiotics, no steroids... Sanitation inthe cities was primitive at best. Disease was rampant. Wealthy people like the Potters left the city to summer in the country for that very reason.

It sounds like Warne might have caught a cold that weakened his immune system and made him vulnerable to other diseases. Maybe his cold progressed into what is known as walking pneumonia and then when his body could not fight that off into full blown pneumonia. Remember there were no antibiotics to cure him. Most people who got pneumonia died. Or maybe he caught Tuberculosis. They probably didn't even know what the illness really was.

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I cried half way through when her parentsare trying to keep them apart. i felt like something bad would happen to one of them because they had been so close and now to have to wait 3 months to announce their engagement and marriage, the stress of that summer causedd Norman to get sick and with his immune system down take pnumonia and die. and look what happened to Beatrix. Depressed for weeks until Millie came andconsoled her. I could have killed those parents

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Yep, I cried. I was so heartbroken. Renee` and Ewan have such a profound chemsitry. They created one of the sweetest relationships I have ever seen on film.

"Sorry little darlin'. I hope I didn't dent your 'do"- Link (Hairspray 2007)

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I didn't cry, because I read an article on the life of Beatrix Potter so I knew he would die.

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i didn't like that part and i cried and so did my friend who made me watch it


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I DID!!!! I totally was not expecting it....

Be careful. I won’t be there to count the planes.

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Of course I cried...Even though I knew what was going to happen.
{Norman Warne died of leukemia in real life.}

It was heartbreaking for Beatrix to have not made it in time to say goodbye to her love.
And so stupid in that era, for the sister to not be able to tell the brothers that there WAS a reason to wait.

It's a shame the sister couldn't inform them at that point, that Beatrix and Norman were engaged.

I just watched it again the other evening, and cried all over again....
The heartache that Beatrix went through in her room, was very emotional..

I do the same thing at the end of Moulin Rouge.

Ewan and Renee-----Ewan and Nicole...Wonderful chemistry with both couples in the films.....

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I've read a biography of Beatrix Potter, so knew what was coming, but the acting/reaction was so beautiful that I did, indeed, tear up.
And please take this, not as a criticism, but a correction of a common spelling mistake. You meant that you "bawled your eyes out." The other spelling can lead to some pretty crass jokes.

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I cried because it was so unexpected . . . i definitely thought something bad was going to happen to one of the two, but i thought they were safe from death because ewan mcgregor has no mustache on the cover of the dvd.. :) i thought... there has to be at least one more scene where he shaved it off! he can't die yet!

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I didn't know anything about Beatrix Potter, but when I watched the film and Norman proposed to Beatrix, I thought it was too good to be true.
Still, I refused to believe there would be something wrong in the relationship until I saw Millie (Norman's sister) wearing black when Beatrix went to Norman's house.

And, yes I got tearful. It was truly heartbreaking.

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...they'd have had to change the story so that he did.

Couldn't have a "happy ever after". That would be so boooring!

Anyway, he got wet while seeing Beatrix off, so obviously he had to catch a chill and die. That was the Victorian way.

"It wasn't the cough that carried him off,
It was the coffin they carried him off in."

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On watching this the cynical side of me felt that, yes, their meeting at the train station was their last but because I felt he would desert her for whatever reason. That was my first impression at least. When his letters stopped coming I felt sure that was why. Then the news of his sickness and subsequent death hit me harder than I expected. I really did not see that coming. I was so heartsick for Miss Potter, knowing she waited her whole life to feel this for someone only to have it taken from her. But life is full of these rollercoasters.



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