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UW's 'ultimate no-no' in WCW

posted 17 years ago by jtbrennan84
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Ok. When UW shows up in WCW, Hogan says he committed one of the biggest no-no's in the business by reminding fans that he already defeated Hogan before.

I really don't see why that was so bad because it could only help the story. "You beat everyone else, but you never beat me." I mean, that was great. That's a great build-up. Will history repeat itself, or will Hogan prevail?

At first, I thought that UW had lied and that Hogan had beat him at some point. But I really didn't think that was a big deal.

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[–] jtbrennan84 17 years ago

Ah. Point taken. On second viewing, yeah I guess he does take it a little far. But that's Warrior for you. :-)

[–] [email protected] 17 years ago

That's becasue the Warrior's a moron. The guy couldnt work a match to save his life. I wrote in an earlier post that Hogan's now doing the same thing as Warrior. Trying to hold up a ppv so he could get the highest paycheck. Glad Vince didnt cave in. Jerks like the Warrior and Hogan should just go away already.

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[–] dave78 17 years ago

the original match was one of the biggest ever which most fans know or remember and were probably excited about a rematch. I think hogan was looking for insults to make at the warrior.

[–] treetherealest 16 years ago

I'll agree with Warrior on this one. He made it sound more exciting. I dont' see why Hogan says it's a "BIG NO NO" He is just fishing for something. This is a biased documentary, but you never truely know what the truth is.

[–] CaptainSparrow78 16 years ago

I loved there match at Mania but there WCW rematch was a complete joke it was terrible...

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[–] stellastey 15 years ago

I gotta agree,im not sure why its such a complete no no and im not sure how by saying this he was revealing who was gonna win as hogan says,i agree jim hellwig is a dik andbelieves his own publicity but think this comment was sour grapes from hogan.

[–] Barry_Ace 15 years ago

I think the reason is at that time Hogan was a heel and it was just that the Warrior saying that made people think "ok, he beat him before, he's just going to do it again, we know what's going to happen this time so why bother watching it?" If Hogan was the face and Warrior was the heel that might've been different

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[–] Mithrandir-Olorin5 14 years ago

This is what I most didn't get, I loved that speech, and that is exactly why I was thrilled to have The Warrior back.

I don't know what the rating dropped during it, what was WWF doing at the time, I honestly had forgot WWF existed while the Warrior was talking.

It's not like he Broke Kayfabe or anything, like all the nWo did a little after Montreal

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[–] kingaliencracker 14 years ago

As I pointed out in another thread with the similar topic, I think Hogan's logic was that Warrior - the face - was driving home the fact that he already beat Hogan - the heel at the time - once before, pretty much telling you that Hogan would *have to* win their rematch in order for the feud to continue or mean anything.

Basically, he went into business for himself talking about how he already beat Hogan, when WCW was trying to rebuild a classic feud between the two.

[–] the_tapeworm_project 14 years ago

So what if he dared everyone to rent the Wrestlemania where he won before. I doubt anyone would be thinking about that when a redesigned Warrior and heel NWO Hulk Hogan were in the ring. They would be thinking ahead, not looking back to see who had the angle, the skill. The wins and losses and championships are all decided by commitee anyway. And a lot of people know that too. There's very little mystery left in the wrestling industry and how its run. So they would rent the DVD, be incredibly pumped from a classic match still remembered to this day, and eagerly buy the PPV for the re-match they always wanted to see.

I wonder why Hogan didn't mention all the announcers and advertisers afterwards hyping up the fact that Warrior beat him before, and how that was a big "no no" in the business.

If Hogan hadn't messed the match up with that little stunt at Halloween Havoc then Warrior would have ended up working long-term for WCW with his popularity and merchandising potential. Hell, he would have ended up booking with the other idiots from WWE that sank that whole WCW ship.

[–] natrum 13 years ago

The reason WCW became so successful in the 90's was because of the nostalgia factor. You had all these middle-aged wrestlers, but they were the big names of the 80's. Another reason was because WCW dropped all the pretense that the actual wrestling was the reason people tuned in. People didn't care about the match and who was better. They tuned in for the drama and talking pieces.

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