Eliade was a fascist


and I couldn't help watching/interpreting this film with that in mind.

Skimming through the comments and blogs, I found very little comment on this fact. Is this the fantasy of a man who can't admit to himself that he supported the Nazis? Or a dream of rejuvenation to escape ugly history?
Or maybe just an entertaining tale by a flawed genius.

I wouldn't have known anything about Eliade, except that I had read "Journal 1935-1944" by the Jewish Romanian writer Mihail Sebastian. Sebastian's experiences in the years of Romanian Fascism/Iron Guardism and his personal experiences with Eliade and other artists and intellectuals give one much food for thought. The ugliest crimes of political extremists are generally committed by thugs, but the non-thugs or intelligentsia who legitimize the thuggery should be accountable too- perhaps more so.

Notwithstanding, it's still a pretty good story and a worthwhile film.



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Right, well, Andy, it's probably not that simple, although you may be right insisting that it should be. He had made the wrong allegiances back in the thirties. Whether it matters is a difficult question which should be answered on a case-by-case basis. For instance, Sartre's idiotic support of various forms of communism (including Stalinism, then Maoism etc, all with a headcount way surpassing Nazi Germany) should not detract from our reading of, say, Les Mouches or other of his literary gems.

But it all turns on what the man had contributed otherwise to the world.

And Eliade was one of those stratospheric intellectuals. His contributions to literature, albeit much loved and appreciated in Romania (he wrote literature almost exclusively in Romanian) were but a tiny part of his gigantic intellectual contribution. He has, for instance, remained one of the foremost historians of religion of the last century.

I read his literature was a constant struggle to re-enchant the world, to cultivate its mysteries, lost to the modern world. I sincerely do not believe his literature has anything to do with his political choices.

Some people call Nietzsche a Nazi "avant la lettre". Others, regard Plato as the father of all totalitarianism (!). Eliade had supported the Romanian ultra-nationalist movement before WWII. Now, having seen its (the War's, that is) pictures and heard its horror stories, all too easily we judge everything and everyone that came before it. I think that's a strange and bitter way to look at history.

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I appreciate your comment, and agree that over-simplification isn't useful.

My main point was that my fragmentary negative knowledge about Eliade made it difficult to understand the movie on its own terms. I also (simplistically) wanted to encourage reflection on the roles or responsibilities of intellectuals in political life.

I don't know if Sartre ever admitted any error or regret for supporting totaliarinism, but I understand (from Wikipedia, I think) that Eliade never did.

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The Iron Guard (aka "Legion of Archangel Michael") was NOT a fascist movement, it initially was just a legitimate right-wing organization, patriotic and nationalist. Later, in the '30s, following the huge cross-tensions all around Europe, it was forced into an extremist stance and got allied with the Nazis, as an only resort against Bolshevism. In the end, its leaders, including the Captain, Corneliu Zelea Codreanu, were murdered at the King Carol II's orders, and the command was taken over by Horia Sima, who pushed indeed the Guard to its final excesses - by the way, immensely bloated by the left-wing propaganda.
It's in this context that one should view Eliade's belonging to the Legion - together with many other anti-communist intellectuals of the epoch (Nae Ionescu, P.P. Panaitescu, Eugene Ionesco, etc.) They were all proud to serve the Right Wing cause and defend their motherland against the Soviet menace - this was a responsible stance, not some young age fluke, and none of them ever renegated it later.
By the way, Sartre was a whore - he got PAID by the K.G.B. for his communist propaganda in the West.

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They were not fascists. They were just law abiding citizens who hated communists, gypsies and jews, considered them as sub-human and not worthy of living. But since they did hate communists that makes them really the good fellows.

By the way, the "final excesses" mentioned in the post above mean armed insurrection against the state, including the assassination of the prime minister, the historian Nicolae Iorga.

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"I don't know if Sartre ever admitted any error or regret for supporting totaliarinism, but I understand (from Wikipedia, I think) that Eliade never did."
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Anyone can contribute to Wikipedia. That makes Wikipedia a potentially very corrupt source of information, very dangerous, because its popularity has allowed many to assume that Wikipedia is a trustworthy and reliable "encyclopedia." (Not that Wikipedia does not offer useful information, but with important matters, corroboration and further investigation is absolutely essential.)

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What kind of idiot douchebag would, without knowing anything about the man, make this statement? It's like reading Bill O'Reilly's opinion on Al Franken and proclaiming it to the world as if it were irrefutable truth, rather than one partisan's ridiculous ramble.

Eliade was my friend. He was not a fascist. I say this because, unlike you, I actually knew him, and knew him well, not because I read it in some revisionist history from seventy years ago.

You are, without putting to fine a point on it, an ignorant moron.

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Wow, you knew Eliade? Can you please share some of your stories about him,like what kind of a man was he in real life, what sort of personality did he have etc.?

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I concur, I'm fascinated by genius like him and would be very much interested too !

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Many thanks, Mineah and Sattara, for once again proving the stupidity of revisionism.

The Iron Guard was not fascist but only patriotic and right-wing? Well, apart from the Iron Guard's overt extremist anti-semitism, I suppose this could also be said of the movements of Franco, Pinochet etc. If right wing nationalist totalitarian supremacist dictatorship is not fascist, maybe you've got a new word for this?

Apart from that, supporting an organization like this (like e.g. Spengler was sympathetic of the Nazis in their early years), even if this doesn't make you a fascist, it makes you a supporter of fascism, and all it's consequences.

By the way, Sartre was a Marxist, but he was publicly speaking against the violence of the German RAF terrorists. Are there any supporters of the Iron Guard who voted against their violence and help in deportation of Jews? Or supporters of Franco and Pinochet who voted against their excesses?

Grow up!

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