probably an inside job.
Help me find the evidence guys so we can beat back the debunkers!
Someone told me that United 93 is completely intact at the bottom of a mine shaft, but why no excavations to uncover it?
Also, how did the flight data recorder pop out of the ground?
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It will be funny to see the excuses they bring up for that one.
He's wrong, it was not a shaft, it was soft ground in mining country. The plane was excavated and 95 percent was recovered, just like they recovered your body fluids from fluffy and 95 percent of it was stamped with your DNA!
Jeromes Favorite Dream -
The plane was excavated and 95 percent was recovered
Flight 800's central wing tank exploded, blowing the 747 into two major parts: the section forward of the wings, and the rest of it.
These two big pieces fell, unpowered, to the ocean. They broke apart, but were not pulverized, due to their (relatively) slow desecent.
Flight 93 was running at close to full throttle when it hammered into the ground at a steep angle. It was obliterated. The 95% of the aircraft that was recovered was little bitty pieces. You go ahead and reconstruct an aircraft in which the average piece is 3" square. Go for it.
Clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace lactis!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b74naeawdCs
This is an amazing video, finally some science to back up my investigations!
Holy crap...
Your "investigations"?
I assume your "investigations" began when you got yourself a degree in mechanical engineering from an accredited university, since, you know, having even the faintest spark of understanding the subject matter really does help.
Those crackpots in that video... they are attention whores who are focusing on still photographs to describe dynamic phenomena, and are misrepresenting data to make it seem even plausible that hundreds of explosive charges could be installed with *zero* witnesses. Jeezus *beep* keeryst!
Taken from the sh!t website ae911truth.org:
14. No precedent for steel-framed high-rise collapse due to fire
WTF??? Why do you troofer idiots neglect the IMPACT OF TWO HEAVILY-LADEN 767s?????????
There was no precedent for a steel-framed high-rise to collapse due to aircraft impact and fire. That was an all-new situation.
Goddamn... you wouldn't last two seconds in any of my engineering classes. Dr. Paasch would beat you down with his brain so hard...
Clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace lactis!
You have no idea who you are dealing with, do you?
The hottest fires at the World Trade Center site were only extinguished on December 19, 2001. Yes, Jet fuel burns for 3 months. Give me a break.
It was like a foundry under the rubble, molten metal flowing like a volcano. Hundreds of eye witnesses to confirm molten metal flowing below the rubble.
USGS surveys over the site reveal the hottest temperatures over WTC 2, 1 and then 7. WEEKS AFTER THE COLLAPSE.
Deny it all you want, your jet fuel kerosene excuses will never hold up. There is more to the collapse of all three WTC towers than what has been given, and you know it. All we want is the truth.
Now help us find it.
Take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wmdmMnZog8&feature=related
Simply incredible!
You have no idea who you are dealing with, do you?
Someone who doesn't have the faintest clue what is going on.
The jet fuel was the initiator of intense fires. It wasn't just jet fuel burning - it was thousands of tons of paper, plastic, cardboard, and a multitude of other materials. Have it all collapse into a big messy pile, and yeah, it's going to burn and smolder for a long time.
Have you ever used a charcoal grill?
That jackass in the video keeps using the terms "explosions" and "squibs", when what he is pointing at are places where dust and debris are forced out of holes and windows as the building collapses.
It's simply incredible that you are falling for low monotone voices, a light R&B soundtrack, and Power Point.
Also, the last 2 minutes or so, where he's got cardboard "buildings"... total BS. A 110-story building will behave in a completely different fashion from a cardboard box. Look up "Reynold's number," as that's analogous to the situation here.
Or think of this: if you drop an ant from 10 feet, it survives. If you drop a water buffalo from 100 feet, it most certainly does not. It's an exponential rise in physical effects when you scale things up.
You apparently are seeing what you want to see, and nothing more.
Clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace lactis!
You have no idea who you are dealing with, do you?
Someone who doesn't have the faintest clue what is going on.
I beg to differ!
The jet fuel was the initiator of intense fires. It wasn't just jet fuel burning - it was thousands of tons of paper, plastic, cardboard, and a multitude of other materials. Have it all collapse into a big messy pile, and yeah, it's going to burn and smolder for a long time.
Yes, the jet fuel easily warped away 100% of the WTC core columns in both buildings, caused them to bend, so the top floors smashed into the lower floors with no resistance at all. Perimeter columns firing out like bullets into neighboring towers because of a gravitational collapse. Office fires don't take 3 months to extinguish. Office fires also don't collapse into dust.
Have you ever used a charcoal grill?
Yeah, I have. I put it as hot as I can. It has never turned to dust and collapsed on me once yet.
That jackass in the video keeps using the terms "explosions" and "squibs", when what he is pointing at are places where dust and debris are forced out of holes and windows as the building collapses.
Where did the ash come from? How does an office desk or computer monitor turn into dust and then spew out of the WTC window. If it was just air pressure from the floors above the squibs then why are some of the squibs dark colored like ash and why do some occur over 60 floors below current collapse area?
It's simply incredible that you are falling for low monotone voices, a light R&B soundtrack, and Power Point.
Would you rather listen to the guy from Hearst Publishing that claims to have a science degree, terrible music, lack of visual aide and a voice that sounds like michael jackson?
Also, the last 2 minutes or so, where he's got cardboard "buildings"... total BS. A 110-story building will behave in a completely different fashion from a cardboard box. Look up "Reynold's number," as that's analogous to the situation here.
You try to force something to collapse into resistance, it doesn't happen unless all resistance is systematically removed. The WTC towers should all still be standing today but resistance was removed so they are not. How it was removed was possibly by thermite charges.
Or think of this: if you drop an ant from 10 feet, it survives. If you drop a water buffalo from 100 feet, it most certainly does not. It's an exponential rise in physical effects when you scale things up.
There will always be resistance. NIST finally did admit to free fall speed, fortunately the investigation still continues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0GHVEKrhng
You apparently are seeing what you want to see, and nothing more.
What I want to see is the truth, help me find it. I know you have questions about 9/11 as well, so lets hear them!
First, read this. It clearly explains the basics of the collapses. I know, I know, it's written simply enough for a 1st or 2nd grader to understand, but try to keep up:
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html
You have no idea who you are dealing with, do you?
Someone who doesn't have the faintest clue what is going on.
I beg to differ!
Meh.
The jet fuel was the initiator of intense fires. It wasn't just jet fuel burning - it was thousands of tons of paper, plastic, cardboard, and a multitude of other materials. Have it all collapse into a big messy pile, and yeah, it's going to burn and smolder for a long time.
Yes, the jet fuel easily warped away 100% of the WTC core columns in both buildings, caused them to bend, so the top floors smashed into the lower floors with no resistance at all. Perimeter columns firing out like bullets into neighboring towers because of a gravitational collapse. Office fires don't take 3 months to extinguish. Office fires also don't collapse into dust.
You didn't even read what I wrote. A 767 with a heavy fuel load struck each tower. Each 767 was flying at 450+ mph, and weighed in the range of 300,000 lb. That's an enormous amount of kinetic energy to be absorbed by buildings that were not expressly designed to absorb such impacts.
You are mischaracterizing the events by saying "the top floors smashed into the lower floors with no resistance at all." That isn't true. The floors below the impact points did resist the upper sections, but the buildings' structures were not designed to withstand such horrendous DYNAMIC loads. Therefore, the upper sections plowed down through the rest of each tower.
There was so much material in each building (they were very large, in case you didn't know), that it had to go somewhere during collapse. The path of least resistance is - gasp! - out to each side. Material that didn't pound straight down ended up flying out to the sides. Totally simple concept that you are unable to understand.
The last time you put out an office fire was... when? This was no ordinary office fire. You think these towers just "collapsed into dust"? WTF??? Did you not see the images of the enormous piles of debris that used to be the towers???
Have you ever used a charcoal grill?
Yeah, I have. I put it as hot as I can. It has never turned to dust and collapsed on me once yet.
&%$#^&* - WTF? THE PILE OF COALS STAYS HOT FOR HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS. The upper 1/4 to 1/3 of each tower was ON FIRE. The collapse of each building didn't automatically put the fires out. Geez.
That jackass in the video keeps using the terms "explosions" and "squibs", when what he is pointing at are places where dust and debris are forced out of holes and windows as the building collapses.
Where did the ash come from? How does an office desk or computer monitor turn into dust and then spew out of the WTC window. If it was just air pressure from the floors above the squibs then why are some of the squibs dark colored like ash and why do some occur over 60 floors below current collapse area?
Drywall, concrete, just about anything that can be powdered was powdered during the collapses due to the enormous potential-turned-kinetic energy as the upper floors smashed into the lower floors. Stop using the word "squibs." Until unequivocal physical of a SINGLE squib is presented, your use of that term is disingenuous. If planted charges were used on lower floors, why did the buildings section themselves at those lower points? Why did the collapses initiate at the aircraft impact points, then progress downward from there until the ground was reached? You disprove your own fevered dream.
It's simply incredible that you are falling for low monotone voices, a light R&B soundtrack, and Power Point.
Would you rather listen to the guy from Hearst Publishing that claims to have a science degree, terrible music, lack of visual aide and a voice that sounds like michael jackson?
Idiots fall for slick production, because that's all they've got. Troofers need to market their sh!t because of the sickeningly short attention spans of today's youth. Since kids today don't have the patience to actually learn something, they'll gobble up the sound bites and pretty lights. Real science is "dry." You've never been near a group of engineers, people who know what the hell they're talking about.
Also, the last 2 minutes or so, where he's got cardboard "buildings"... total BS. A 110-story building will behave in a completely different fashion from a cardboard box. Look up "Reynold's number," as that's analogous to the situation here.
You try to force something to collapse into resistance, it doesn't happen unless all resistance is systematically removed. The WTC towers should all still be standing today but resistance was removed so they are not. How it was removed was possibly by thermite charges.
Uhhhhh... the aircraft impacts and resultant fires severely weakened the structural integrity of each tower. After a time, the structures were not able to continue to support the floors above the impact points. When that critical second was reached, the structures gave way, allowing the upper portions to collapse onto the rest of the tower structures. Provide actual, verifiable physical proof of thermite charges being used. Walk that evidence from its source to the White House. Do it.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=3102fb86cdac8174d509270fa7904 59f&t=89753
Or think of this: if you drop an ant from 10 feet, it survives. If you drop a water buffalo from 100 feet, it most certainly does not. It's an exponential rise in physical effects when you scale things up.
There will always be resistance. NIST finally did admit to free fall speed, fortunately the investigation still continues.
Sigh. Yes, there was resistance. That's why the damn buildings billowed outward in huge clouds of concrete, steel, paper, drywall, and flesh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0GHVEKrhng <-- buncha clueless hippies and their droning guru
You apparently are seeing what you want to see, and nothing more.
What I want to see is the truth, help me find it. I know you have questions about 9/11 as well, so lets hear them!
How in fu_k's sake are you going to "see the truth" at IMDB? You "know I have questions"? My only questions revolve around the inability of people like you to take the time to understand the basic science behind the physics of the events of 9/11. Ignore your weirdo feelings about political impropriety or whatever - look at it dispassionately, as anyone actually interested in the truth should.
I have been accused of being a "government shill" because I refuse to bash the government and accuse them of covering up some magical space laser detonation of the WTC. Find ONE post in which I act as an agent of the government. Find a single post. You won't find one. I am only concerned with the physics and science behind the results of the planes crashing into the towers and causing their structural failures.
I get worked up over all this conspiracy BS because otherwise almost-intelligent people are losing sight of what actually happened that terrible day, and are daydreaming about some big bad overarching "illuminati" takeover or whatever.
You're pushing some sort of emo agenda, and it's really, really sad.
Clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace lactis!
Egads, I wasn't expecting an essay about how it's wrong to ask questions. Anyways, I'm gonna debunk all of what you said you government shill you!
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First, read this. It clearly explains the basics of the collapses. I know, I know, it's written simply enough for a 1st or 2nd grader to understand, but try to keep up:
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html
You have no idea who you are dealing with, do you?
Someone who doesn't have the faintest clue what is going on.
I beg to differ!
Meh.
What does that even mean?
The jet fuel was the initiator of intense fires. It wasn't just jet fuel burning - it was thousands of tons of paper, plastic, cardboard, and a multitude of other materials. Have it all collapse into a big messy pile, and yeah, it's going to burn and smolder for a long time.
Yes, the jet fuel easily warped away 100% of the WTC core columns in both buildings, caused them to bend, so the top floors smashed into the lower floors with no resistance at all. Perimeter columns firing out like bullets into neighboring towers because of a gravitational collapse. Office fires don't take 3 months to extinguish. Office fires also don't collapse into dust.
You didn't even read what I wrote. A 767 with a heavy fuel load struck each tower. Each 767 was flying at 450+ mph, and weighed in the range of 300,000 lb. That's an enormous amount of kinetic energy to be absorbed by buildings that were not expressly designed to absorb such impacts.
You are mischaracterizing the events by saying "the top floors smashed into the lower floors with no resistance at all." That isn't true. The floors below the impact points did resist the upper sections, but the buildings' structures were not designed to withstand such horrendous DYNAMIC loads. Therefore, the upper sections plowed down through the rest of each tower.
There was so much material in each building (they were very large, in case you didn't know), that it had to go somewhere during collapse. The path of least resistance is - gasp! - out to each side. Material that didn't pound straight down ended up flying out to the sides. Totally simple concept that you are unable to understand.
The last time you put out an office fire was... when? This was no ordinary office fire. You think these towers just "collapsed into dust"? WTF??? Did you not see the images of the enormous piles of debris that used to be the towers???
Yeah because when office towers collapse they never meet resistance, oh wait, only on 9/11/2001 in New York City, New York.
Have you ever used a charcoal grill?
Yeah, I have. I put it as hot as I can. It has never turned to dust and collapsed on me once yet.
&%$#^&* - WTF? THE PILE OF COALS STAYS HOT FOR HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS. The upper 1/4 to 1/3 of each tower was ON FIRE. The collapse of each building didn't automatically put the fires out. Geez.
No it most certainly was not. Survivors above the impact points in the South Tower say there was smoke everywhere, no fires until reaching the area of the sky lobby and even then they were isolated pockets. Then in the North Tower you have hundreds of guests at the Windows on the World tower restaurant talking about a "smoke situation". There is no mention of fires, Christine Olender spent several minutes talking to someone on the phone about all of this--I suggest you read her transcript. It wasn't the blazing inferno all you government shills make it out to be.
That jackass in the video keeps using the terms "explosions" and "squibs", when what he is pointing at are places where dust and debris are forced out of holes and windows as the building collapses.
Where did the ash come from? How does an office desk or computer monitor turn into dust and then spew out of the WTC window. If it was just air pressure from the floors above the squibs then why are some of the squibs dark colored like ash and why do some occur over 60 floors below current collapse area?
Drywall, concrete, just about anything that can be powdered was powdered during the collapses due to the enormous potential-turned-kinetic energy as the upper floors smashed into the lower floors. Stop using the word "squibs." Until unequivocal physical of a SINGLE squib is presented, your use of that term is disingenuous. If planted charges were used on lower floors, why did the buildings section themselves at those lower points? Why did the collapses initiate at the aircraft impact points, then progress downward from there until the ground was reached? You disprove your own fevered dream.
Upper floors did not smash into lower floors. The upper floors fell a few feet and then were PULVERIZED. We can see this clearly when you watch the top-edge of th WTC south Tower collapse you see the top portion of the building angle downwards, it goes into the dust cloud, when it emerges it's in tatters for NO REASON. So much for your theory about the upper portion of the building causing the collapse.
It's simply incredible that you are falling for low monotone voices, a light R&B soundtrack, and Power Point.
Would you rather listen to the guy from Hearst Publishing that claims to have a science degree, terrible music, lack of visual aide and a voice that sounds like michael jackson?
Idiots fall for slick production, because that's all they've got. Troofers need to market their sh!t because of the sickeningly short attention spans of today's youth. Since kids today don't have the patience to actually learn something, they'll gobble up the sound bites and pretty lights. Real science is "dry." You've never been near a group of engineers, people who know what the hell they're talking about.
You're an idiot for believing everything you hear on Television. Surely some questions about the validity of the Official Conspiracy Theory must run through your mind. Every show on TV presents itself the same way, anti-official story does it the same way as your nearest Popular Mechanics shill presentation. Now popular mechanics is debunking UFO myths. Are you kidding me? To think we're alone in the universe is the most arrogant selfish thing I've ever heard. Anyways I'm getting off topic. The point is, stop believing every shill you hear on the TV set and research the facts for yourself.
Also, the last 2 minutes or so, where he's got cardboard "buildings"... total BS. A 110-story building will behave in a completely different fashion from a cardboard box. Look up "Reynold's number," as that's analogous to the situation here.
You try to force something to collapse into resistance, it doesn't happen unless all resistance is systematically removed. The WTC towers should all still be standing today but resistance was removed so they are not. How it was removed was possibly by thermite charges.
Uhhhhh... the aircraft impacts and resultant fires severely weakened the structural integrity of each tower. After a time, the structures were not able to continue to support the floors above the impact points. When that critical second was reached, the structures gave way, allowing the upper portions to collapse onto the rest of the tower structures. Provide actual, verifiable physical proof of thermite charges being used. Walk that evidence from its source to the White House. Do it.
You can see thermite spilling over the side of the WTC South Tower just moments before it collapses. There were charges obviously planted throughout the perimeter columns and core columns in strategic areas. It's not airplane aluminum because airplane aluminum is not a bright orange color when it melts. Also, according to you shills the airplane would have turned into dust just like everything else for no stupid reason.
Or think of this: if you drop an ant from 10 feet, it survives. If you drop a water buffalo from 100 feet, it most certainly does not. It's an exponential rise in physical effects when you scale things up.
There will always be resistance. NIST finally did admit to free fall speed, fortunately the investigation still continues.
Sigh. Yes, there was resistance. That's why the damn buildings billowed outward in huge clouds of concrete, steel, paper, drywall, and flesh.
No resistance. Perimeter columns were flung over 60 feet into neighboring towers like arrows from a bow. Some amazing peice of energy caused those perimeter columns to do that. And it wasn't the top floor of the WTC falling into the path of resistance, that was pulverized, it was some sort of charge. I only wish I knew what precisely.
You apparently are seeing what you want to see, and nothing more.
What I want to see is the truth, help me find it. I know you have questions about 9/11 as well, so lets hear them!
How in fu_k's sake are you going to "see the truth" at IMDB? You "know I have questions"? My only questions revolve around the inability of people like you to take the time to understand the basic science behind the physics of the events of 9/11. Ignore your weirdo feelings about political impropriety or whatever - look at it dispassionately, as anyone actually interested in the truth should.
I have been accused of being a "government shill" because I refuse to bash the government and accuse them of covering up some magical space laser detonation of the WTC. Find ONE post in which I act as an agent of the government. Find a single post. You won't find one. I am only concerned with the physics and science behind the results of the planes crashing into the towers and causing their structural failures.
I get worked up over all this conspiracy BS because otherwise almost-intelligent people are losing sight of what actually happened that terrible day, and are daydreaming about some big bad overarching "illuminati" takeover or whatever.
You're pushing some sort of emo agenda, and it's really, really sad.
Clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace lactis!
What the heck does Clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace lactis! mean anyways? Whatever. You are a government shill. Who else would spend all their time attempting to debunk people and silence them at the first sign of questioning. You are probably getting paid six digits just to copy & paste useless facts from websites that have twisted the math of 9/11 only so it supports the "pancake" and the "columns? what columns? The WTC was hollow." people.
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How DARE you bring up that false, fake, untrue equation the lying liars in universities try to ram down the throats of sheeple students:
F=m*a
Fight the power!!!!111one
Clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace lactis!
so you have a clear understanding of how the twin towers collapsed. How do you explain the third building that wasn't struck by a plane genius?
shareSomeone told me
Stop right there.
Get away from the keyboard.
Go play in traffic.
Clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace lactis!
Help me find the evidence guys so we can beat back the debunkers!
Someone told me that United 93 is completely intact at the bottom of a mine shaft, but why no excavations to uncover it?
Hello Sheeple, I hope you're enjoying all the benefits of your Bilderberg-Bohemian Grove administration in power today.
9/11 was probably an inside job, but they've sure done a heck of a job keeping it secret. Manhattan project comes to mind.........
Hello Sheeple, I hope you're enjoying all the benefits of your Bilderberg-Bohemian Grove administration in power today.
9/11 was probably an inside job, but they've sure done a heck of a job keeping it secret.
First of all, get those ideas that 9/11 was in "inside job" out of your head! Those absurd thoughts will only take you in the wrong direction, and lead you to the wrong conclusion.
I traveled to the field less then two miles north of Shanksville where United Flight 93 crashed and after talking to a few locals and Park Ranger employess can give you assurances about the crash site.
We will never know what really happened aboard Flight 93 or who or what was felled, but United 93 is not completely intact at the bottom of a mine shaft. Someone clearly made that up. Someone who does not read the news or follow leads from beyond his or her house. Conspiracy therorists whom are not educated in terms of scientific facts make up their own stories, and worse still, they actually belive their own lies and tall tales.
Flight 93 hit a disused reclaimed section of a above-ground coal mine which made a 60x90 foot crater in the ground and because of the massive impact by a plane traveling at over 500 mph, some remains got buried more than 60 below the surface since the ground it hit was soft from the years of coal mining, plus while some heavy debries got buried, some lighter items like paper or light alumium metal remained above ground when the aircraft it.
There are more facts from my travels to Shanksville, the Pentagon in Washington, and the former WTC site in New York and my sources and contacts can tell you that there is no "inside job" or conspiracy to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Go to those memorial sites out of respsect for the dead and feel a little compasion and for those people who died on that day, and stop trying to make up you own opinions to it.
Among the most obvious points of evidence of a cover-up or conspiracy are:
1) The collapse of WTC 7 even though it was not hit by any airplane or heavy debris.
2) The fact that all three buildings fell so quickly without resistance into their own footprints.
3) The finding of large pools of Thermate burning in the rubble of all three buildings months after their collapse demonstates that the buildings did not just collapse, but were in fact facilitated by expert demolition crews.
4) Several NYFD firemen near the WTC reported hearing a series of explosions just prior to the WTC collapse.
5) The fact that the rubble from these buildings was not examined by any investigators, but instead it was loaded onto barges and taken to China.
6) The hole in the Pentagon builing was too small to have been caused by a commercial airliner, suggesting some type of missile was used. Also, there was no aircraft wreckage to be found at the Pentagon. Planes do not just vaporize.
7) The cellphone calls from passengers on United 93 were faked. Cellphones cannot work at the speeds or altitudes that plane was travelling at.
8) The lack of any credible response from the US Air Force during the crisis.
9) The Silverstein Group's acquisition of the WTC only months before 9/11 despite the asbestos hazards that had caused the local health department to suggest that the buildings be taken down. Larry Silverstein pocketed hundreds of millions from his insurance company in 2004. During an interview Silverstein admitted that he had issued the order regarding WTC 7 to "pull it" on 9/11.
People are so gullible in believing all the BS that their governments feed them. Few Germans could believe that Hitler's henchmen set fire to the Reichstag in 1933. Even today, most Americans do not believe that the US government had intercepted and broken the Japanese codes outlining their attack on Pearl Harbor well in advance of the attack, but let it happen anyway.
Here we go again:
1) The collapse of WTC 7 even though it was not hit by any airplane or heavy debris.
2) The fact that all three buildings fell so quickly without resistance into their own footprints.
3) The finding of large pools of Thermate burning in the rubble of all three buildings months after their collapse demonstates that the buildings did not just collapse, but were in fact facilitated by expert demolition crews.
4) Several NYFD firemen near the WTC reported hearing a series of explosions just prior to the WTC collapse.
5) The fact that the rubble from these buildings was not examined by any investigators, but instead it was loaded onto barges and taken to China.
6) The hole in the Pentagon builing was too small to have been caused by a commercial airliner, suggesting some type of missile was used. Also, there was no aircraft wreckage to be found at the Pentagon. Planes do not just vaporize.
7) The cellphone calls from passengers on United 93 were faked. Cellphones cannot work at the speeds or altitudes that plane was travelling at.
8) The lack of any credible response from the US Air Force during the crisis.
People are so gullible in believing all the BS that their governments feed them.
Few Germans could believe that Hitler's henchmen set fire to the Reichstag in 1933.
Even today, most Americans do not believe that the US government had intercepted and broken the Japanese codes outlining their attack on Pearl Harbor well in advance of the attack, but let it happen anyway.
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Yeah - you're hearing more about how "Inside Jobby Jobbers" are getting more looney tunes and irrelevant. Probably three to four times less relevant than you did 3 years ago. Only a matter of time until they start locking you freaks in mental institutions for delusional behavior. If i were Bush & Cheney I would keep living it up, not worried one bit about being brought to justice for a non-existent crime.
Everything's Better With Cake!
I wouldn't claim to know enough about engineering, explosives, or even physics to know what the truth is behind the events on that day. Because I lack the in-depth knowledge to give an informed comment, I wouldn't happily state either argument was the 'absolute truth'.
However, I don't think conspiracy theorists in general are all 'loony tunes'. Nor does the fact that they question the spoon-fed version make them freaks or idiotic in any way.
For some people in society to question what we're told by governments and the news is a positive thing on the whole, it provokes debate, and acknowledges that all systems can be corrupt and misinform.
Equally, I don't think it's wise to whole-heartedly endorse websites and groups that provide conspiracy theories that claim to have all the answers either.
Sadly, there are many events in history for which we will never have all of the answers (whether those answers support or disprove the commonly held notions), but I do think it's right to question those events, and what we're told about them.
Which is it, is man one of God's blunders or is God one of man's? - Friedrich Nietzsche
Here we go again:
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1) The collapse of WTC 7 even though it was not hit by any airplane or heavy debris.
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Oh, but it WAS hit by heavy debris. From the North Tower!
3) The finding of large pools of Thermate burning in the rubble of all three buildings months after their collapse demonstates that the buildings did not just collapse, but were in fact facilitated by expert demolition crews.
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Not a fact!
6) The hole in the Pentagon builing was too small to have been caused by a commercial airliner, suggesting some type of missile was used. Also, there was no aircraft wreckage to be found at the Pentagon. Planes do not just vaporize.
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The hole WAS NOT too small, Flight 77 DID NOT vaporize, and aircraft wreckage WAS found!
7) The cellphone calls from passengers on United 93 were faked. Cellphones cannot work at the speeds or altitudes that plane was travelling at.
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Actually, they can.
8) The lack of any credible response from the US Air Force during the crisis.
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Another 9/11 conspiracy freak delusion.
IThinKINeedMyMeds says
"Heavy debris? What about buildings 3-6 that were directly under the towers, yet were still partially standing after all three towers fell?
You are comparing 2 110 stories and 47 story building collapses to WTC 3 the 22 story marriot hotel which was badly damaged by the collapse of WTC 1 (no fire) and had to be demolished,WTC 4,5 and 6 which were only 9,9 and 8 stories high which were badly damaged, WTC 5 had the same design as WTC 7 and was ablaze, after 911 it was inspected:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWpOfUMz6SE
"Actually it is a fact. Many firefighters and police personnel have commented about this fact on record"
Ah yes the photo of firefighters clustering around the pool of molten steel provided by steven jones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0kWya_oVC8
"Can't argue with that.. Oh wait, yes I can. The airplane wreckage that was found was not even for a 767 or a 757-200. The owners of both American Airlines and United Airlines as well as the owner of Rolls Royce (the common engine manufacturer on both airlines) has stated that the engines found were not theirs"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8
"Nowadays, yes some cell phones can work above 8,000ft. But in 2001 it was virtually impossible to make a call from a cell phone on a plane"
cell phones have had their tansmitter power reduced since the cancer scare of 2004
"Really? Never heard of the drills they were running that day involving the almost the entire eastern coast's standby air force to run drills on a fake invasion from Russia over Canadian airspace?"
what's pretending got to do with reality?
leave your conspiracy crap where you found them,in the toilet.
911TRUTH
911TRUTHERS ARE WAY TOO STUPID TO REALIZE HOW STUPID THEY REALLY ARE.
Your first evidence you dummy is the families that lost their loved ones. Your second is the govt. our govt is too dumb to even pull this off. What has it really accomplished?
shareI hate it when you and many other clueless people say that 9/11, the September 11 terrorist attacks, were an 'inside job' or a 'false flag' operation or imply it to be.
As far as all films go, like Flight 93, that attempt to demonstrate an that this was inside-job, they all lack specific events and specific names. None of the inside-job films create detailed scenes with specific planning and executing 9/11.
Films that attempt to prove an inside-job instead rely on pointing out trivial anomalies and coincidences. They only rely on second-hand or third-hand accounts of people who were witnesses and bystanders of the WTC and Pentagon and Shanksville attacks. They rely on the recalling of past historical examples of other governments that have been corrupt and participated in acts of violence and tyranny.
But there is never an attempt to recreate scenes where specific people begin planning the inside-job. No scenes of the planning and installing of the explosives at the WTC. No scenes of gathering actors for the hijacked planes. No scenes of that activity, of those events, created and connected and constructed with a coherent narrative to demonstrate a credible, plausible and logistically practical account of how the inside-job happened.
Thinking it was an inside job will only lead you in the wrong direction and to the wrong conclusion. Stop making up conspiracy theories that have no basis in fact.
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