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Shelke (not a question, this is just REALLY bothering me)


Okay. I've nearly completed the game now, and as I mentioned in a previous post before I had even gotten the game, the chemistry between the two is out of whack.

So, she's "infected", or whatever, with Lucrecia's memories/personality, right? Presumably Vincent would have SOME feelings toward the Lucrecia in her, not the young girl, but I don't understand why people keep pairing the two of them. She's like 13-years-old or something. It's very creepy and it's really starting to put me off Vincent, because now everytime I watch Advent Children when Marlene hides under his cape... uh, it makes me cringe. Square-Enix is practically intent on making Vincent out to be some sort of odd, little pedophile >:O Okay, maybe not. My point is:

STOP PAIRING VINCENT WITH SHELKE, IT IS DISGUSTING. Play the game and stop being perverts.
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wtf is wrong with these people? I love final fantasy to death but there are crazy fanatics that will take any little detail in the series and turn it into a sexual relationship/conspiracy. I couldn't stand it when certain people make fan fiction about Squall and Seifer being brokeback buddies. Don't get me started on that whole homophobic crap because the game designers did not make the game that way.

Shelke (however u spell it) is really 19, and the monotoned chick may like Vincent. There's nothing wrong with dating (etc. . .) girls who look younger than they really are. So why the hell torment it so?

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that's a good question. it depends on what you want in a girl. Intelligence? or looks? I'd go with the 10 year old body/20 yr old mine. Call me a pedifle if you want but she's 19. I know people who love loli will be all over that question, lol.

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She's meant to be emotionless, too, right? Shelke the Transparent or something like that. I doubt she really liked Vincent at all. Still, people are always going to be coming up with obscure pairings. I've seen a lot of Weiss/Genesis and a Denzel/Marlene thing. And I suppose the same could be said for Vincent, he's much older than he looks, so I guess it makes the entire prospect of the two of them even being interested in one another slightly disturbing.

Squall and Seifer? Ew.

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even if shelke was 19 will had a 19 year olds body they wouldn't make a good couple.... will i don't think they would


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Vincent should just have a threesome with Yuffie and Shelke and get it over with. Though I imagine It'd suck if, in the middle of lovemaking, he were to spontaneously transform into the Galian Beast (all that body hair, ewww) or even Chaos (those huge wings of his would get in the way)...

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Well, technically, it does sound kind of wrong when a guy with the mind of a 60 year old and the body of a 27 year old dates (etc...) a girl with the mind of a 19 year old and the body of a 10 year old. That's sexual assault/harrassment! When will people realize the perversion of their fanfictions?

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All right, my observation may be faulty as I have to base it on what posters have said, AC, and DoC, as I have never played the original Final Fantasy VII. (I do however adore AC and have been loving DoC.)

If Vincent was in hybernation for those 33 years between the experaments that slowed/stoped his aging and the events of FF7, then he would never have mentaly matured over that period of time, and thus would have the mentality of a 27 year old, just like his body. With being in hybernation all that time, his date of birth becomes irelevent. In fact, mental maturity has nothing to do with ones technical age. So, do to his hybernation, Vincent would technicaly be 60, but have the mind and body of a 27 year old.

For some reason, I don't think being romanticly involved with someone would damage the character of Vincent like it would Jack Sparrow (foolish Spparabeth fans). Having a girlfriend or wife wouldn't slow him down one bit, especialy if it was someone like Yuffie. Also, it would not reduce or demean the fact that he is extremely badass. So, yeah, I like the idea of Yufentine. My two favorite FF7 characters! (Besides Sephiroth, of course.)

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Well, technically, it does sound kind of wrong when a guy with the mind of a 60 year old and the body of a 27 year old dates (etc...) a girl with the mind of a 19 year old and the body of a 10 year old. That's sexual assault/harrassment! When will people realize the perversion of their fanfictions?
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Are the laws different where you're from? Age of consent = 16/18 (depending on where you are).

But think about it, Vincen't slike 60 with the body of a 27 year old. Shelke's 19 with the body of a 10 year old. They were just made for eachother XD
Of course I'm joking, but nevertheless, this obsession with Vincent's apparent paedophilia is never going to get old for me. I can't stop laughing during that scene with Vincent and Marlene in AC now. I'd never thought of it that way before reading this thread XD

Oh, and people are all too aware of the perversion of their fanfics. That's probably why they write them; 'cause they know that it will NEVER happen anywhere else, and for good reason -shudder-

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My religion's kinda against that stuff (It's not even real! God! Catholics and their strict rules against Harry Potter and Square Enix games!). But, I'll probably be excommunicated by the time I turn 21. I'm not really sure about the laws near me. And, I meant body-wise. He's 27, she's 10. It just seems odd and a little perverted to me. And, sadly enough, I know people write fanfics just to see things that didn't happen in the game, happen. Which explains all of the yaoi incest out there.

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Shelke is actually 10 (in looks...although she doesn't look 10 to me). And as long as Vincent exists he will always be paired with little girls. It was Yuffie before Shelke, but I guess Yuffie got a little too "old" for the fans...

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there are no pairings. I don't ever recall once in the whole FFVII series seeing a relationship between any of those characters. You're talking about fan fiction here.

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(sigh) Square officialy announced that nothing will be going on between Shelke and Vincent they are friends...sort of

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thanks wacka

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Oh very good dear. You've figured it out. The original poster was talking about fan pairings as well.

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"And as long as Vincent exists he will always be paired with little girls. It was Yuffie before Shelke, but I guess Yuffie got a little too "old" for the fans..."

Not that it really matters, but Yuffie was 16 in FF VII which would make her 19 in Dirge of Cerberus. As far as I know, Shelke is also nineteen, she just doesn't look it.

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Yes thanks wacka:D you just made me happy! no shelke or vincent together Eww, maybe friends lol


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indeed. it would freak me out. I'll put my eggs in the Vincent/Yuffie basket. although knowing nomura/square...it will never happen

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but we can hope right? i mean maybe some how if we keep supporting Yuffietine Aka Yuffie and Vincent lol.... maybe it well get around and it well get to Nomura and Square and they will think about?....:D i'd be the happyist person in the world:D


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You all are looking into this WAY too much.

Shelke has Lucrecia's memories, but not her appearance or personality. She is simply there to help Vincent.

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*this may have spoilers*

I agree with Hylander,
if this is talking about the game then it is ludicrous. If it talking about fan fiction aside from the games, you people should find another site. That's not what imdb.com is about.
Anyway, if you pay attention here's the facts.

First, Shelke really is 19 but has had zero normal development as a human being during those ten years. She has been forced to become emotionally detached from everyone and has witness atrocities. So she has been desensitized without maturing. In some ways, she's 19, but in most ways she's 10, mentally and physically.

Second, Vincent's really like 62 years old now, his age was stopped at, I think, age 29, some 33 years ago by the twisted experimentation performed on his body by Hojo. He is nowhere close in age to Shelke.

Third, Vincent takes an interest in helping Shelke deal with the humanity that has suddenly been thrust upon her after a decade of unemotional existence and android-like obedience to Shinra. He helps her confront tough ideas that would be learned easily by most people. He helps her out as a sort of protege and makes sure she understands that she's needed as does Reeve. Vincent lost the love of his life, Lucrecia and can never get her back, but remains haunted by her in many ways, one of which is through Shelke's ability to reproduce Lucrecia's memories. However, this does not appear to cause Vincent to have any romantic or sexual feelings for Shelke in any way. He treated Shelke no differently after he started seeing Lucrecia through Shelke's holographic visions, so it's definitely a non-issue.

Fourth, Shelke is the one that seems to have a crush on Vincent, not the other way around. First male presence in her adolescent life that wasn't evil, is tall, dark, brooding and handsome, compassionate, somewhat fatherlike at few and far between moments, and while set apart from humanity, has the humanity within him that she is so desparately searching for. Vincent is a guide and friend to Shelke, however Shelke does seem to have some feelings for him, which is not surprising at all.

Fifth, not every emotional moment has to be sexual. Period. I would suggest seeking help if you can not perceive any emotional moment between two people as something non-sexual. There's more to life than that. Love has many different meanings and often it has nothing to do with sex at all.


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I love Yuffentine, 100% back this couple but I didnt before playing Dirge of Cerberus cause there was Nothing to really suport it, although in DoC i fel that they at least cared for each other alot. =)
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Exactly, Vincent acts similarly towards Yuffie, and not Shelke, that he did in the flashbacks with Lucrecia. If Vincent loves anyone in DoC, it's definitely Yuffie. Just watch his body language around the two. You'll see very faint rumblings of something like love. Who knows? Maybe in the DoC sequel. You know it's coming, especially if you got the secret ending.

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I hate all these stupid pairings. Vincent should remain a bachelor, for that is when he is coolest.

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Vincent joined due to the possibility of running into Hojo, Lucrecia wasn't a part of why he joined Cloud and co if I remember correctly.

In fact, it's optional wether you meet her in the game at all, whereas you can't avoid the Hojo confrontation.

On Yuffie...well, no. I wouldn't call her a "Theiving little b**ch" she went on a Materia hunt to restore Wutai to it's former glory as a world power, she joined Cloud and co because she seen their Materia and wanted it. When you go to Wutai anytime after getting Yuffie, with her in the party, you do her sidequest, and from there on it's clear she has to stay with Cloud and the rest of the party, her father tells her so, not only that, but she does become close with them, it's a perfectly legit thing to happen.
Advent Children didn't ruin her by any means, it couldn't have, she was on screen for about a total of three or four minutes, and she was EXACTLY the Yuffie from the game, immature, jumpy, hyper, fast, materia obsessed. They didn't change her at all.

Vincent and Yuffie are together as friends for an obvious reason, they are both in the WRO, they are both old buddies, they can help each other etc etc.

I'm not even going to comment on the Shelke and Vincent discussion, it's so stupid that it just needs to be ignored, nowhere in Dirge is it reffered to that they may have a romantic bond AT ALL. She has the body of a 10 year old, and he has the body of a 27 or so year old, hes actually like 60 something, and shes actually like 19, it's just too stupid to comprehend or justify.
And to draw a line under it, please people stop being stupid, Yuffie and Vincent will never be romantically involved.

The only person Vincent will ever be involved with in that way, if anyone, is Lucrecia, anyone who played the games and has at least half a brain cell could tell that much at least.

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Lold, seeing how Vincent is 60 years in DoC :D
But physically he is only 27, so yeah, why not :D

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True, but also, Shelke had Lucrecia's memories uploaded as well. He is just experiencing memories with Shelke because she has Lucrecia's memories. Nuff said.

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I agree with you on that one. But Lucrecia isn't completly dead, she is stuck between the life stream in the cave. Anything is possible on that part.

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Shelke is too mary-sue for my liking.
But i do think he should be kinder to Yuffie, i mean shes always looking out for him and saving his ass,
It annoyed me how he called Shelke and left Yuffie to stress, she was so worried about him.
I dunno wots with Shelke, i wish she died instead of shaula, or that they'd tie her storyline up so she wouldn't be hanging with the Avalanche lot,

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Shelke is basically an abused, emotionally disturbed 9/10 year old (physically) orphan and Tifa's obviously got a soft spot for such orphans, so I think she'll be staying with Tifa, Cloud & Co.

Vincent's not the kind to wear his emotions on his sleeve, but I think he treats Yuffie with his version of affection (and he's saved her ass a couple of times too). But honestly, Yuffie acts like an annoying teenager most times and Vincent is (mentally) about 60 years old. How many successful friendships like that exist with those stats? Do you remember the scene in DoC where she was going on and on about taking on "those Deep Ground punks...two in four or four in three or three in five haha"? He looked like he wanted to tell her to STFU. But yet he tolerates her and genuinely cares.

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I agree with that. Vincent is just showing Yuffie he cares by tolerating her. But I must say it was funny in Advent Children(I think in one of the special features) He told Cloud to tell Yuffie not to call his phone. That was funny in a cruel way. But still I think Vincent cares for all of them. But just doesn't really show it, because that's not who he is.

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that is funny, but also a bit sad. it gives a little angst between Vincent and Yuffie which is only increased when she looks so sad before the credits of DoC.

I imagine that she had probably been ringing him over and over again and leaving loads of messages until he cracked and rang up Cloud. He could have just been a grown up and spoken to Yuffie, but i guess thats not his style and she probably wouldn't listen

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