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Unrealistic Incompetence

posted 3 years ago by avortac4 (3458)
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Started watching this after many years, to refresh my memory.

After the first episode, I can't believe how incompetent the people of the institution are. How did they manage to capture anything in the first place?

So many mistakes and unrealistic things - so many methods they didn't use - so many opportunities, and all they do is shoot ineffective guns. What? Why?

First of all, what's the point of the helmet, if she can see just fine without it?

Couldn't the helmet have been actually effective? How about suffocating her so much she can't breathe, but doing it in a remote-controllable way, so any time she gets out of line, she's suffocated until she faints or something?

How about gas or injections the helmet could be giving?

If you think about all the ways people are constantly manipulated, and the interrogation methods that have been used probably since early 1900s, if you think about all the drugs, psychedelics, etc..

Also, knowing how emotional and susceptible to human bond and family type influence these creatures are, why create a completely horrible, scary and unnaturally institutionalized environment for them, instead of treating them human to human, as equals (at least superficially, to influence them that way)?

So she doesn't want to kill the guy with the glasses, but she kills anyone else without mercy instantly, innocent or not. I can't remember, but I assume it's because she -knows- this guy well, and has bonded with him. What if EVERY single employee of that facility had been introduced and become friends with her the same way?

Why lock her up that way, if it's that ineffective? If those invisible hands are so OP that they can block bullets without getting hurt, and so versatile and agile that they can catch bullets and hold them mid-air like Neo in his best days, and then just drop them, then why even try to control them or ever even try to shoot at her (or even aim any gun at her)?

Couldn't that helmet have very loud speakers that disrupt her thoughts and cause pain in the eardrums and inner ear, causing her to probably lose balance, etc.?

Couldn't it also have video screens to brainwash her every waking second of her life?

How about hypnosis, creating hallucinations or controlled psychosis, or memory loss? There are SO many ways to control someone like that, but these people try only PHYSICAL ways, and that's all they ever try. Why?

How about manipulating breathing - gas, removal of oxygen, especially when she's between the heavy doors and being apparently shot at (and such surprise shots don't get her, because.. she's always prepared? What? Then how can the rifle shot get her?).

Why does the helmet actually -protect- her instead of helping control her?

If she can see wearing the helmet, why even have her wear it? What's the point of the helmet, if it's only helping her??

What about having floor disappear from under her and have her fall into some sticky goo or whatnot?

(And have slippery enough walls that she can't use them for support in any way - or have them be so far apart she can't reach them)

Why is she allowed SO much space, why is every single room and hallway of this facility ENORMOUS? Couldn't she have been lured into very narrow hallways, where walls could close in on her so she can't use her 'hands'?

Why sacrifice men with guns and without any shields or protection just shooting at her and nothing else?

How about robots, tanks, automatic cannons, electric shocks?

How about slippery floor that can't be walked on with bare feet?

How about spikes, pins or just 'a very rough floor'?

How about sticky floor? Huge fan that creates very strong winds she can't walk against?

How about hurling extremely fine powder towards her so you can always see the 'invisible hands'?

Tear gas?

How can she escape a facility that was strong enough to keep her imprisoned? In other words, if she's that strong and all those metals are that weak, then how could they ever have even got her in a position where they could force a helmet on her? If they're THAT HELPLESS when she tries to escape, how could they EVER have overpowered her in the past?

I have so many questions because nothing makes sense. It's like the writers just wanted a lot of gore and that's as far as they thought about it.

Why does she have to be so naked for so much of the time? And yet we can't see her face, because useless helmet. Because we have to feel sympathy for our antagonist evil villain character.

This whole thing is so badly written. The only thing great about it is the artwork itself and the voice acting (as typical and childish, as well as overacted as it is mostly - very japanese, though).

Even the sound design kinda sucks - when she drops the decapitated head, it makes a 'squishy' sound when it falls on the floor. Head is heavy and hard, it would DEFINITELY not make _THAT_ sound, like dropping a tomato into some kind of jelly, for crying out loud.

Why does the sniper only shoot once?

[–] avortac4 (3458) 3 years ago

Why is the name "Erufen Riito", when it should be "Erufen Riido"?

(And it's roumajized with ^ instead of ī or ii - in katakana, they just use a line to emphasize a longer wovel, but in roumaji, î is just a little wrong - although better than writing it "Rito", of course)

So they have this extremely dangerous monstrous entity locked up and somehow (??) controlled (how?), but then have no research done on how to keep it subdued and under control, there are no mind control efforts or anything to control her mind whatsoever. There are no medications, no drugs, no injections, no gaslighting, no brainwashing, no propaganda videos, no electric-shock-walls ready to pump enough volts into her to tranquilize her well..

It makes NO sense that this big facility, the sole purpose is to research and control these creatures, don't utilize ANYTHING, not even their own intel from their research to control these creatures at all, and that they're SO ill-equipped to handle them.

The gun stuff makes 0 sense, because THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER. Also, why be so antagonistic, why not try to work together? And if they're being antagonistic, why only guns and bullets and nothing else? I swear, they don't even try anything even remotely imaginative.

Also, there's _NO_WAY_ she could do all she does in the opening with just 'invisible strong hands'. She'd need a dang FORCE FIELD at some points, that covers every single inch of her body from all directions.

There's no way at least ONE bullet wouldn't have ricoched from the 'hands' or the walls or something and hit her, wounding and injuring her.

By the way, I am just listing things from off the top of my head, but they could've tried SO many things to stop her. How about extreme heat, napalm, flamethrowers - can those hands protect her from temperatures? How about extreme cold, freezing, etc.?

How about rooms that move? Those exist, you know. A facility like this should definitely have them. Those rooms could shake her..

[–] avortac4 (3458) 3 years ago

..so she can't concentrate.

How about filling the room with sand or water so she can't move or breathe?

How about vacuum or all kinds of things simultaneously? Instead of water, it could be something stickier or like concrete, but hardening faster.

If I were to build a facility and I knew her strong and weak points, and all the data this facility knows, I would FOR SURE come up with zillions of ideas and implement the best ones to keep those dangerous entities 100% under control, and they would have to be friggin' geniuses witn unknown superpowers to be able to escape a facility of MY design.

I would NEVER, ever put any guns or anything else that _I_KNOW_IS_INEFFECTIVE_!! against her.

Instead of those doors opening and closing and such, why not have the doors move towards her, and so rapidly she can't do anything about it, to AT LEAST knock her out, and pin her into a tight corner where those 'hands' have no leverage or enough power to pry her loose?

Why not invent tech that can deal with those hands, because you already know what they are and their abilities? Why not invent a way to either cut them off or render them ineffective or tie them behind her back or -something-?

Nothing about this factility and this creature make any sense. Would YOU or anyone really design a facility THIS BADLY and their 'emergency procedure' that sloppily? It's like NO thought went into it.

Also, shouldn't there be a 'red alert' and all personnel (who should work far away from this kind of dangerous area) be moved to a safe place anyway? Why is there no such alert going on and why are these coffee girls completely oblivious as to what's happening? Would it have killed them to have an announcement "Dangerous prison number blah breached, prisoner escaping, extremely dangerous, seek safety"?

No, better let our lunchladies just get murdered because they just HAPPEN to wander to a dangerous area without anyone noticing, caring, or notifying them. What the heck kind of sloppiness??

[–] avortac4 (3458) 3 years ago

There's just _SO_ much wrong with everything about that facility, I could probably type a whole book about the first episode alone. So much stupidity.. so much incompetence.

Everyone in this show is so unlikable, they deserve what they get. Seriously, anyone that stupid and incompetent deserves her to escape the place.

By the way, the monster being unconscious or renderd to 'Nyuuu'-type mentally braindead bimbo, how does she survive the trip underwater to the beach? Does she not need to breathe? Realistically, she should have just drowned, and that'd be the end of it.

But yet they didn't even TRY water when she was naked.. how about high-pressure waterhose from all directions? Can't really walk against that, now can she? How about _any_ protection for the 'gunners'?

It's just SO so SO stupid, I can't believe someone greenlit this! Ah, sorry, it's japanese, 'bluelit this'. (Those that get this, congratulations, you understand japanese everyday life)

Can't wait how many stupidities we see in the next episodes..

Really, if you want this type of story of some OP female entity endangering the Universe and yet it being someone's dear friend that we should feel sorry for, but she has committed atrocities so we can't let it go, but we can't kill our friend, but ..

.. then watch X-Men 'The Dark Phoneix Saga' - at least that doesn't have this kind of stupidities and plotholes.