when did people start hating jehovahs witnesses?is it because they knock on your door and want to talk about god...its funny because the other day a group of mormon girls rang my bell.is it because they want to give you a leaflet telling you about theyre religon?strangly the scientologist did that to me a few weeks ago.i just dont get what it is about jehovahs witnesses that is so hatable....
shareMost people don't like strangers telling them that everything they've ever believed is wrong. I don't let so called "know-it-alls" bother me, but alot of people really hate Jehovah's Witnesses because of that kind of superior attitude they have.
Guess what????
I got a fever!!!!!!
And the only prescription....
IS MORE COWBELL!!!!
You show me a religion that doesn't say all the other religions are wrong...
...and I'll show you Buddhism.
JW's are not interseted in PUSHING anything on anyone they are only interested in sharing a positive message from GODS word with those whose hearts are righttly disposed to spiritual interest, and they do it in the most humble manner I have ever encountered. If you read the Bible you would know that this is the same way Jesus and the disciples shared the "good news" with others. But your hate for JW's would certainly serve Satan's purpose, think about it.
share"Alot of people hate JW's because..."
What is 'alot?' BigErn, when you spend as much time as we do knocking on doors, you know that a 'superior, know-it-all attitude' will not encourage anyone to listen to you. In my fifteen years as a Witness (baptized at 18)I've can count on one hand the number of people that behaved hatefully towards me: and in every case, I'm barely able to get past the word Hello, before I'm blasted - which I can hardly take personally as I just guessed I caught people who didn't like JW's on a bad day; I'd bet anything they'd be polite to a JW coworker as all my coworkers have been to me!
Interestingly enough, people who are brave enough (and yes I type that tongue-in-cheek) to be blunt about their opinion of witnesses on a message board are usually polite but dismissive IN PERSON!
In addition to field service, we receive training in all the different forms of public speaking to accomplish our ministry. We don't look down on people; on the contrary, we're simply following the Bible's admonition to preach the good news of God's Kingdom; this reflects a love for neighbor which Jesus said was one of the two greatest commands (following that we 'must love Jehovah our God with our whole heart, whole soul and whole strength'). And it is 'good news' that we try to bring, especially in this world that is mostly full of bad news. It takes humility and an earnest desire to please God to go door to door, especially when in the USA you know that most people are not going to listen. But it's totally worth going to a hundred houses to find that one person who is sighing and groaning over this system of things and wants to learn what the bible teaches.
I would encourage anybody to ASK what JW's believe the next time they come knocking at your door. You may be surprised when you compare what you've heard in the past with what an actual Witness shares with you.
cause people know that the stuff that Jehovahs Witnesses say tend to be more realistic that other religions its not about softy fluffy white rabbits, but about asking people to change, to be nicer, not to hate, not to go to war, and well people dont like to change so they get uptight and think who the hell are they to tell me what to do. In other words, they are still in there nappies and dont wanna be changed
shareThanks for proving my point. You've been a big help.
Guess what????
I got a fever!!!!!!
And the only prescription....
IS MORE COWBELL!!!!
Its not a matter of telling you what to do, we have a free choice and thats why there is so many religions today, the question is this, its not how we want to worship god, its how he wants us to worship him, and the only way to find that out is through his word the bible.
sharePeople just don't want to hear the truth because its easier to live a lie and do whatever they want to do. Mankind in general is not susceptible to making changes in their lives to do things pleasing to anyone, not God, not others, and sometimes not even themselves.
Jehovahs Witnesses preach because they are commissioned to do so. Jesus commanded his followers to preach the good news of the Kindgom so that others may attain to life. This is the same thing that Jesus did himself. (Acts20:20) Jesus preached from house to house and lots of people rejected him as well. When God brings an end to this wicked system all mankind will have had to opportunity to get to know God. If Jehovahs witnesses don't preach then who will? You may see mormons out occasionally but what message do they bring? Does it make logical sense? Is it Bible based teaching?
We, as Jehovahs Witnesses dont take it personal when we encounter rejection as the doorsteps of our neighbors. Its not us that they are rejecting its Jehovah God.
I invite you to get your own copy of the Bible the next time the Witnesses knock on your door and maybe ask some questions that you've always wanted to know about the organization, God, Jesus or anything spiritual. If there was ever a truer statement than "Stop, the life you save may be your own."
It is considered Worldly for you to even be on this community forum. You were not forced to associate with us and it is against your religious morals to respond. What congregation do you belong to so I can tell your Elders you were here?
shareWhatA mean thing to say.Itis by know means against JW religiou for any menber to associate with this community forum or any other. I thank the Elders will very happy with this witness.
shareAmen!!
shareTrue elders of the Watchtower wouldn't appreciate worldly interaction, it's considered pagan activity. Just like it is considered pagan to celebrate Christmas, Easter, birthdays or any other holiday for that matter.
JW's don't say Amen, nor do they say "bless you" when you sneeze.
If what you say were true with regard to "worldly interaction", Jehovah's Witnesses would live underground and never rear their heads. If "worldly interaction" were against some kind of religious doctrine, then likely, Jehovah's Witnesses would not work secularly, attend gatherings outside of their homes, dine outside of their homes or have any interaction with anyone outside of their religion. None of which is the case.
I am afraid you are incorrect as to whether or not Jehovah's Witnesses say "Amen." You are correct that they do not say "God Bless" or anything along those lines after someone sneezes - perhaps you might want to ask them why. Any one would be willing and able to give you a clear, concise explanation.
Confused about what "pagan" means, are we? You should look it up in the dictionary, might be enlightening.
shareWe say amen in conclusion to all of our prayers.
shareOnce again you have your information incorrect. What are your sources? Why don't you attend a local Kingdom Hall and see first hand and observe how we pray. ALL prayers are concluded with "Amen"--this is to show we are in agreement with the prayer that was just offered on our behalf to the creator, Jehovah God. As far as worldly interaction, we do not seperate ourselves from society--we gladly go to everyone's home and are willing to share a scriptural thought and encourage the homeowner or whemever answers to get their own Bible and follow along. We want everyone to read the Bible--hopefully this will allow God to give you personally his word. We do not want people just to hear what we offer but to read for themselves and then apply what they learn from the Bible. We use God's standards and not ours. Do you not think that we also have secular employment, families, and relationships to maintain? We do all of this and still find the time to offer service and praise to Jehovah. We are actually following Jesus lead and continuing where his earthly life let off. So how do we not have worldly contacts when we seek out people of all faiths to share with?? If you check where "god bless you" came in to play different ideas from orgins sites state that people use to think your heart stopped when you sneezed so someone would say "god bless you" in order for your heart to resume beating or in case it did not. So why would we carry out such silly, supersticious practices? Excuse my writing/typing I have been recently dx'ed with a brain tumor so things are not as easy as they once were. Thanks, L>H>
shareyes we do say amen,
shareummm
No offense, or anything, but I agree with the other guy. You know, the one who makes sense. ^_^;
I know a guy who was disfellowshipped for having a myspace. This is essentially the same thing.
So technically he's right about the whole bad association thing. ^_^;;
You can not be disfelowshiped for being online..being a member of a chat community..having a space on myspace..... WHAT may happen is a discusion of what you are writting,viewing, and promoting.You will not be censored in any way.When you become baptised as a witness you take an oath to uphold God's standards, to follow certain standards that are clearly stated Bibically and are encourage to use the Bible as your guide in making wholesome choices in areas that may fall into grey areas (like what to read,watch, styles of clothes or who to associate with). One core belief is to not have fellowship with persons who have apostisized from the religion...in order as the scriptures says "that they might actually become ashamed and turn back from their wrong ways and be saved". Clearly ARGUING in a thread line is not going to accomplish this if the point of the message board is to attack JW. The point of this board ,however is to discuss the documentary KNOCKING. I find it interesting that a person asks..WHY are they hated? and the thread actually turns into an attack and not pointing to the answers stated in KNOCKING. Review your DVD. I have found only three classes so far that have pre-ordered the DVD. Witnesses,journalsist and those that want to get a jump on the show in order to stir up hatred and fear against JW BEFORE it is even aired. Ask them why THEY hate JW. Their hatred is discused in the DVD and is explained as based on bigotry,their own failed attempt at self fulfilment and looking for someone ELSE to blame. You will see this occur on this thread reapeatedly.
As for the DVD. It was objective,fair,balanced, and well documented.
Look to it ,review its words and pictures ,for answers concerning questions about it...or to JW for answers about them. The rest is just like Stratton Ohio.
it certainly sounds as if the writer of this statement was disfellowshipped. You can tell by the language they use that they have at least some limited insight into our Bible based beliefs. I address this statement to all listening becuase this person, and all others, should know that as a fact, Jehovah created us (mankind) with that special thing that sets us apart--freewill. Afterall look what freewill did for Adam and Eve when they choose to live their lives according to their own standards. So it is not against our religious morals to respond to a statement that effects peoples views on Jehovah's Witnesses--after all we are defending Jehovah's name and his right to rule. The reason I am even on this site is because I am looking at the witness this documentry will give. This site is set up for responses to a documentry that portrays Jehovah's Winesses doing the work that Jehovah commissioned them to do. And in response to an earlier posting regarding ignoring this documentry like Jehovah's Witnesses "ignore disfellowshipped" persons, this too comes from the Bible-God's word and instructions on how to deal with people and every situation in life. Since we go by His standards and not ours we take to heart his counsel where he tells us not to even say hello to anyone calling himself a brother (but is living a double life or standard). Just think if other religions followed this counsel how many young boys would have been spared the anguish of having their "trusted" preists molest them. Instead of shipping them from parish to parish and covering over their gross sins they would have been disfellowshipped as the Bible sets the standards. In every instance prior to a disfellowshipping that person is give loving counsel by a set of elders who have their best interests at heart. The elders recognized that God is a God of forgiveness and will extend every opportunity to forgive. It is when that person actively chooses (freewill) to go their own course that one will be disfellowshipped. There can be the same set of circumstances and one person will repent and change and the other feels no remorse and refuses to change (prime example a person who falls off course and commits immorality). Each and every time when examined on what led up to this point people will be able to learn about themselves--has their meeting attendance slacked off, personal prayer and study let up? It can be likened to someone who falls off a diet and exercise program--they did not just gain twenty pounds overnight did they. It was cheating here and there, skipping exercising today, in a sense just not keeping up with a good schedule. Same way with are service to God. We don't make the rules--we just try our best to live by them. So it is not against our religious views to associate on the internet--you just must exercise extreme caution when doing so. We have literature to remind us of principals that will safe guard us. Thank you, L.H. Beverly Hills Congregation
sharethank you for explaining that, but i would be careful when mentioning other religion's because i wouldn't want to offend anyone by pinpointing, all i would add to your statement is that, most people forget that disfellowshipped ones CAN come back to the organization, and infact they are ENCOURAGED to do so as the above mentioned. the problem lies within the person who doesn't want to correct their mistake. (my sister is currently having that issue) and to clarify, the person who was disfellowshipped for having a myspace is most likely because of the content on the myspace, and what he/she was doing, and also the factor that the elders most likely counseled this person numerous times before taking disfellowshipping action, which is only done when the said person refuses to accept counsel.
i see oasis-fan....again.....spreading negativity!!!! when will it stop?
shareInteresting that people "hate" (or at least dislike) JW's because they come to talk to your about religion. Jesus did the exact same thing, and he, too, was hated. Our (Witnesses) work is did in imitation of him.
It is not against our beliefs to speak with non-Witnesses, online or off. We are discourage from having close relationships with non-Witnesses, and posting to a message board surely does not indicate trying to form such a relationship.
Disfellowshipped for having a MySpace? Did NOT happen. The reason that person was disfellowshipped was for something else. He violated one of the Bible's commandments. His/her having a MySpace account was likely only related to his actual sin, if at all.