So very bad.


This was poor, it just wasn't funny. Some parts of this were clearly stolen from The Day Today. It was cringingly bad.

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Totally agree. There was just nothing there. Standing news was pretty good and the Traffic report was funny at first. But the Day Today did it first and a thousand times better. Just shows you how important talented comedic actors are and how 'normal' actors sometimes just don't cut it.

The editing was annoying aswell.

Oh and it helps to have a good script to start with.

Cheers

Farrokh


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This wasn't just bad, it was 'chew through your own arm' bad and dreamed up by someone who watched but clearly didn't understand 'The Day Today'. Could anyone who maybe works for the BBC please explain how they can afford to spend thousands on such a poorly conceived, written, directed and performed show and still justify only commissioning two or so scripts a year from comedy writing hopefuls? Why not spend half the budget of a mediocre missfire like Broken News on developing raw talent? It may be a risk, but if this the best you can offer it could only get better.

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I agree completely - it was utter rubbish, and unoriginal rubbish at that!! There are so many talented new writers out there, but the BBC seems to keep on producing mediocre comedy. They should definitely take a risk and develop raw new talent. That's what they used to do and we were lucky enough to get writers and actors like Galton and Simpson, Ronnie Barker, The Goons, Monty Python...the list could go on but life is too short. It's a shame.

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I spotted quite a few gags that had obviously been stoled from The Day Today or Brass Eye, the 'frozen urine' for instance. Maybe Chris Morris and Armando Ianucci could sue...

Some bits were better than others but overall it just gave me a headache watching it, they could have made it soo much better, it's not even that satirical. It's like the wimpy younger brother of something Morris would do...

It was just sad watching Have I Got News for You afterwards and seeing how a much cheaper and unscripted programme with only 5 people in it, one of them a Tory MP, could be so much funnier. Just sad...

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Yeah, I heard the 'frozen urine' thing and just thought 'For gods sake, at least WRITE YOUR OWN STUFF!' Truly a terrible show. TDT reigns supreme

Thanks reader. Threader

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I liked it.

Its bound to be labelled a Day Today rip off, just based on the premise. But I liked it anyway. Its not as weird or clever as The Day Today, but its ok nonetheless in my opinion.

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Personally I am reserving Judgement for a few weeks. The obvious links to the Day Today and Brasseye do make me cringe a bit and it did lack decent content but the format was... interesting shall we say. I know that format without content can be boring and, to put it bluntly, *beep* BUT it may be that this show works in the same way as Dare to Believe where the continuing format becomes more than a running joke and in fact the repetition of said format creates a hilarity of expectation, not only do you know roughly what joke is coming but you know exactly when the punchline is and exactly what the punchline is going to be so when you see something leading up to it you laugh immediately. It could go the other way however and just be a big bag of wank, we wait with baited breath.

P.S If you haven't seen Dare to Believe see if you can find it anywhere (ie www.daretobelieve.co.uk ) give it a go (and by that I mean watch several episodes!) and be quite mashed when you do, it should all come together and have you hooked from now until eternity. Hopefully.

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No, you're wrong and you're a grotesquely ugly freak.

Thanks



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Well said.

The only purpose dare to believe seemed to serve was to convince me that i was too tired and possibly mentally *beep* and that i needed sleep.

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I've just wrote a screenplay about an irate hotel owner and his wife who own a hotel in a seaside town. I've also got an idea about a really bad manager in the workplace. I was thinking it could be filmed like a fly on the wall documentary. Does anyone think the BBC will commission this?

Afterlife, aftershave. Don't hold with any of it.

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I liked Dare To Believe....has anyone seen the comic side of 7 days? it's alright, but not great...

Thanks reader. Threader

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this thread was funnier than the entire show.. i'll be tuning into buzzcocks, then have i got news for you only next week

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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

I accidentally forgot to switch over last night and ended up watching another 5 minutes of it... worse than that, I became mildly amused by a bit of it and actually smirked to myself. Don't worry I switched it off straight away. I shall flagellate myself accordingly! Just in case I am tempted to give it another chance.
They should cancel this now and spend the money on something NEW!

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I was so disgusted that i had to fellate myself!

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If you think Have I Got News For You is unscripted, you're very much mistaken. There's always a run through before broadcast, and the amount Paul Merton knows always seems very convenient.

All this elitist talk about worshipping at the altar of Chris Morris is irritating. I watched a re-run of The Day Today a couple of years ago, and noticed how much of it was repeats of variations on the same situations (Morris winding up Alan Partidge or hassling Peter O'Hanrahahanrahan, a banal weather forecaster - the same one every time). I also noticed how rarely I laughed.

The Day Today may have been clever, but it was not as funny as people believe, and was also cruel, because they had vox pop interviews where they made ordinary people look stupid. I found this funnier in the radio original ("Today we're talking about the death penalty. What do you think should be the penalty for death?" "Well, I think in some cases you should hang them.") Sadly, ordinary members of the public are intimidated when someone shoves a microphone and points a camera at them. I used to know someone who suffered at the hands of Chris Morris's on the street interviews. He felt humiliated when he saw how he was made to look stupid. I have no problems with celebs being hoodwinked by Morris, but not Joe Public.

Broken News lampoons the banality of studio chatter, visual cliches like an on the spot reporter who can't keep still and hardly lets the interviewees get a word in edgeways, but mostly a culture of channel hopping between rolling/local news (which is something The Day Today definitely did not do).

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No that would be the far funnier Glam Metal Detectives over ten years earlier.

"Come to Nobby's Nosh Up"

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I think the BBC wanted to have "edgy, raw satire", making comedy a weapon again, but without offending anyone the way Morris's Brass Eye special did.


So they make people do the news in silly voices with stupid news stories.


Uh huh.

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Not much to add...
Dear oh dear oh dear, this was really very very bad indeed.
If we ignore it maybe it will go away!

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This is one of the worst programmes I have ever seen.

Not so much of a smirk.

Those people should lose there jobs.

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just watched the second episode and I'm going to hold my hands up and say I was wrong, not only did it not get better, find the humour in repetition or, you know, be any good at all it actually sent me to sleep. Dare to Believe however is still fried gold.

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The idea of lambasting a rolling news culture fails as although I felt it was bad I zoned out whilst watching it and eneded by distracting myself. A waste of half an hour in the schedules. Why not start In The Thick of It in it's place next week?

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Ridiculous stories? Check. Pointless interchanges between reporters? Check. Flashy graphics conveying nothing meaningful? Check. Spoof sports results with made-up team names? Check. (Although in fairness, Smith and Jones did that one back during the eighties). Nothing original that had not already been done better by Brass Eye or The Day Today.

I tolerated about 5 minutes of the first show, and then gave up and slapped on my Day Today DVD. Something I've watched countless times, and it still gets me cracked up every time. Comparing the 2 is like comparing Spaced with Two Pints of Lager... - both about a group of feckless 20-somethings leading vaguely pointless lives with the presence of a predatory older woman. However one of them is clever. And it stars Simon Pegg.

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I found it quite amusing, but first consider these points about why

1)I'm a 13 year old
2)I've only watched two episodes so repetitivity (is that a word?) doesn't kick in just yet
3)I havn't seen Brass eye or Day Today, just short clips on tv archive shows (good aids/bad aids, dangers of cake)

My whole life just flashed before my eyes. It was really boring

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THATS FAIR ENOUGH JAY JAY-DO TRY AND SEE BRASS EYE-THE DAY TODAY AS THEY ARE WHAT BROKEN NEWS UNASHAMEDLY RIPS OFF!-GOOD TO HEAR THAT A YOUNGER PERSON IS INTO THE IDEA OF SATIRE,OTHER RECOIMENDATIONS ARE BILL HICKS,BILL BAILEY AND DO YOU WATCH QI OR HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU?-BOTH VERY GOOD, TAKE IT EASY MATE!

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It acted as reverse comedy for me - the more I watched, the more angry and frustrated I became . . . has it been axed yet?

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I saw this show for the first time yesterday and some parts made me laugh. I've only seen The Day Today once quite recently and i've been desperate to watch it again, so I was pretty excited when i found this show. Of course it is incomparable to The Day Today... but it is as a good enough substitute until I buy the DVD (or it is repeated.)

The constant cutting between scenes is very annoying though.

EDIT - I mean cutting in the middle of scenes.

Women and cats do what they what and men and dogs just have to get used to it.

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I believe the constant cutting between scenes is supposed to represent the bored television viewer, aimlessly flicking through channel after channel.

I personally think that its a great programme with lots of subtle jokes. I understand it may have copied ideas from other shows but in the post-modernist world we live in nothing is original. Just because someone takes and idea and develops it does not make it bad.

The show is a comment on the banality of 24-hour news channels and I think it serves to fulfill this is in a humorous manner. For a media and journalist student, this is fantastic for satirising the 24-hour news culture of late.

I'll stick my neck out here when I say that I think the popularity for this will grow steadily and it will become a cult comedy classic.

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It will never get cult status...not while the spectre a vastly superior show is hovering over it. It may get a second series, but it's a flash in the pan show and will (hopefully) be quickly forgotten about.

I'll add my vote to the anti-Broken News crowd here, and I think they've covered all the main criticisms but I'll add my one contribution: Even the character names in "Broken News" are lame compared to "The Day Today"...Amanda Panda? Cannot even compete with Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan or Donal Be'thlehem.

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Amanda Panda ? ? ? *shakes head in dismay* . . .

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Bah! This show is hilarious!. To simply say it's a rip off of "The Day Today" is deeply unfair, and any similarity is clearly acknowledged by the sly little references dotted about. The targets are actually different anyway. "The Day Today" as with "Brass Eye" was primarily attacking the ridiculous pomposity and smugness of current affairs shows, particularly Newsnight and it was made largly before the advent of the 24 hour news culture, which is "Broken News" primary targets. Yes its repetative, but thats half of the point! 24 hour news is repetative! Where its is especially good is when it attacks the constant repetition of information and ludicrous speculations of reporters with nothing new to add. It's bang on the nose with its incites, so close as it is to the real thing, even more so than "The Day Today" and certainly more relevant to today.

There is room enough for two satirical news shows especially when the nature of TV news has changed so dramatically in the intervening period.

Perhaps it isn't quite as funny as Morris' and Ianucci's creation but that doesn't make it rubbish, just something less than genius.

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this dire program feels like a really bad american remake of a classic british sitcom,ever seen the american red dwarf pilot?. Sure it isnt american but the way it is a shallow immitation of what has come before-all the politics and social comment remomed AND all brass eye/todays the day's dareing as well and what is left is a really plageristic mess of a program that literallt roars "RIP OFF"

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Espontaneo I salute you, some very good points there.

People need to stop hating programmes for 'copying' and start seeing the programmes for what they are. Sure similarities are going to occur between 'The Day Today' and 'Broken News' but who cares?

Are we to believe that no other news based satirical programmes can be ever made again because they might be copying the previous ones? No, the thought is preposterous.

People need to learn to accept that everything you see today is unoriginal in some form or another. NOTHING is original.

The sooner you do that, the sooner you can constructively and rationally criticize a programme.

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I consider this to be rational criticism. I'm not saying there isn't room for another satire on news reporting, as "Drop the Dead Donkey", "Hot Metal" and "The Day Today" are all significantly different from one another. However, "Broken News" has stolen directly from "The Day Today" and has watered down the humour. You say nothing is original; typical post-modern thought that justifies regurgitation. Genre isn't original, however there are always new takes, new perspectives and new ideas that can flourish in established formats. But it's not just about the accusation that "Broken News" has stolen off a superior programme, it's also that the small amounts of new jokes they've come up with are weaker than anything previously seen.

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"Genre isn't original, however there are always new takes, new perspectives and new ideas that can flourish in established formats"

Indeed, this is correct and this is what 'Broken News' does. It takes an idea like the satirical news format of 'The Day Today' and brings a new perspective onto it. 'Broken News' is about 24-hour news not merely news programmes in general like 'The Day Today'.

I fear this debate will never end.

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I'm not hating it because it's a Day Today copy - I'm hating it cause its deeply unfunny and trying too hard to be 'wacky', and above all performed by people who aren't comedy actors, which makes all the difference I think . . .

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It is just an obscenity to see more and more safe or rip off programs comissioned, there are so many tallented people out there writing and they cant get backing, this has to be stopped. The licence fee is a total waste of money as all we seem to get on the whole is either repeats or turds like broken news.

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Well, I think Broken News is a great show. And for the record, I'm also a huge fan of The Day Today and Brass Eye, and still have both of those series on tape.

Broken News is slightly different to The Day Today in what it's trying to achieve. The Day Today used satire of televised news as it's centrepoint, but would branch out and also spoof soap operas (The Bureau), sitcoms, sports coverage, pop music, fly-on-the-wall documentaries, camcorder 'reality' shows, etc. And The Day Today would get quite outlandish and cartoon-like.

In contrast, the great thing about Broken News is that it's only one small step away from real news programmes - just a slight exaggeration of the genuine article.

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"In contrast, the great thing about Broken News is that it's only one small step away from real news programmes - just a slight exaggeration of the genuine article"

. . . which is exactly why it isn't funny at all in my opinion lol . . .

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That's the point, if you're an avid fan of 24-hour news TV or a media/journalism student then the subtle jokes are fantastic.

I think some people just didn't get the humour and thus the effect is lost on them. If you want in-your-face 'this is funny, laugh at this' humour then go for The Day Today, if you want subtle, well thought out humour then go for Broken News. Not everyone will laugh at the same jokes in Broken News, everyone finds their own jokes from it based on their knowledge of the format it is satirising.

But that's just my opinion

Kirk

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Glad to see that someone else enjoys this show. I agree: the fact it's so subtle is what makes it funny.

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I'll stick my neck out here when I say that I think the popularity for this will grow steadily and it will become a cult comedy classic.


Very prescient of you, Zeno! From the perspective of three years down the track from your quoted post, I think Broken News is well on its way, and is one of the best candidates yet to be for the 2000s what Fawlty Towers was for the 1970s and Yes, Minister was for the 1980s. (People Like Us is the other front runner in my opinion)

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So very bad indeed!

I only watched because I saw Claudia Christian on the trailer but I wish I hadn't bothered. Worst 20 minutes (I couldn't get to the end) of tv I've ever seen.

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Sigh

Kirk

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Looks like the neagtive peeps are outweighing the positive - wouldnt hold out for a second series guys!

"if you want subtle, well thought out humour then go for Broken News. Not everyone will laugh at the same jokes in Broken News, everyone finds their own jokes from it based on their knowledge of the format it is satirising."

I am well aware of what is it satarising, I just dont think it does a very good job of doing it . . . at all ! ! !

...and if you want subtle, well thought out humour, avoid Broken News! I'd reccomend anything from Chris Langham (People Like Us, The Thick of It, and Help were all great)!

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'Looks like the neagtive peeps are outweighing the positive - wouldnt hold out for a second series guys!'

Maybe, but only on this small message board, which is not indicative of the general perception of the British public.

To quote an example of the popularity of Broken News, 1.5 million watched it on Monday November 14 2005 (Check the BARB ratings if you wish to)

A comedy such as Never Mind The Buzzcocks averages at 2.1 million. Considering that NMTB is an established programme it is very good for Broken News to be competing with it.

The most popular shows on BBC 2 average between 2 and 4 million. Broken News may fall short of this at the moment but it is doing strong enough to warrant consideration for a second series.

And a quick final note, Chris Morris' recent offering 'Nathan Barley' had an audience of 700,000 for one episode... oops!

and I quote: 'Nathan Barley was the least-watched show in Channel 4’s second-worst ever Friday night — only 700,000 viewers (a 3% share)'

Kirk

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Since when did audience figures (yaaaaawn!) determine the quality of a programme? I was just saying how more people are being negative towards it than positive on this site . . .

I would guess Peep Show has pretty low ratings too (cant be arsed to check BARB), but for me its by far the best comedy on at the moment!

and I quote "Peep Show is by far the best comedy on at the moment" . . .

. . . ok that was a quote from me . . . .

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'Since when did audience figures (yaaaaawn!) determine the quality of a programme?'

I didn't say that, I said it was an example of the popularity of the programme in reference to your earlier statement.

And to be fair, audience figures are vitally important even for a PSB channel like the BBC. They, along with DVD/VHS sales, will be essential factors in determining a programme's survival toward a second series.

For once we agree, I also like Peep Show. I hear that Webb and Mitchell are making a new sketch show soon, it should be good.

Kirk

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"For once we agree, I also like Peep Show. I hear that Webb and Mitchell are making a new sketch show soon, it should be good."

oooh relly? didnt know about this! was hoping they'd move onto something new - would hate to see Peep Show go the way of Little Britain and endless others with each new series getting worse and worse - end on a high I say! (or a low if its Broken News . . . sorry, couldn't resist lol !)

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The audience figures do reveal some information though. Just how drastic is the drop off rate from Never Mind the Buzzcocks and Have I Got News For You when Broken News starts? BBC2 has always had a tradition on Monday nights of putting 1 1/2 hours of comedy on. New shows usually get a follow on audience from established shows. Now if you're seeing ratings of 2.5 million for NMtB and it drops sharply for Broken News, then either there's stiff competition from the other channels (although I doubt it given what's on at those times) or people don't like Broken News. How did it compare with the other new BBC2 comedies this year such as Extras or Look Around You? I suspect Broken News has a small group of fans but is a turn off for most of the people who tuned into episode 1 and who like Monday comedy night.

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'How did it compare with the other new BBC2 comedies this year such as Extras or Look Around You?'

Although I don't have the audience figures for those shows, I'd guess that it was on a par with Look Around You but probably lower that Extras (I think I remember Extras getting 4-5 million for its first episode, although I'm not sure).

However, Look Around You is not a new comedy. The series this year was in fact the second series (albeit an extension of the original concept). Therefore, it is conceivable that a fan base would already exist for the show. And Extras will clearly have the fan base from The Office boosting its audience figures.


Indeed the drop off rate is roughly 600,000. However, that is not significant enough to cause concern for BBC 2. Most shows expect a certain amount of audience drop off and its not always to do with what's on the other channels.

Getting back to the point at hand, you're right Broken News does have small group of fans. A lot of new comedies do when they first come into the public sphere (Peep Show, Little Britain <the radio show I mean>, etc). Popularity can take time to grow and often a second series will determine the overall success and attract a larger audience.

Lets just see if Broken News gets the second series and we'll take it from there!


Kirk

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Jeez! Are you two audience figure anoraks or something lol ? . . .

"However, Look Around You is not a new comedy. The series this year was in fact the second series"

Indeed! The first series was ACE !!! The second one was very poor in comparrison i thought . . .

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I enjoyed Broken News.
I'm a big fan of The Day Today and Brass Eye, and I can see how the genres are similar but in my opinion Broken News goes along a completely different track.
This is the age of the rolling news channel, a typical example of this would be the live coverage of George Best's final hours of life.
Here you have a man who is gravely ill in hospital, the doc gives him 24 hours to live so you get eight or so live reporters outside the hospital giving updates every twenty minutes.
BESTS FINAL HOURS, "ok John, over to you, so is he still hanging on then?"

Back when Morris was doing The Day Today this news format was in it's infancy, and such stories would be highlighted in bulletins at in the prime time news slots.

Also to be annoyed at the editing, ie cutting in the middle of a scene, is proof how some people (note I said some not all) just do not get what the show is trying to achieve.
It's a great parody of the bored channel hopping viewer, drifting aimlessly back and forth across the endless scrolling news, catching fragments of various stories.
I've done a lot of travelling and so in hotel rooms across the world its odds on that the only English speaking channels on the TV in your room will be the likes of BBC World Service and CNN.
Broken News manages to capture the essence of these stations brilliantly, I seriously do think you need to have been exposed to a fair bit of channel surfing around the news and documentary section on your satellite TV guide to really appreciate this show.
But to me that is what makes this show work, it will never appeal to absolutely everybody because the punchlines aren't thrown in your face and there is no canned laughter to guide the viewer as to which bits are funny.

Overall it probably isn't as good as the Day Today, but to me thats no reason to hate Broken News.
It's like comparing Little Britain to League of Gentlemen. After all surely ones a rip off of the other given that both shows depict the same few men dressing up in outragous costume and acting in a bizarre way.

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Great post daveyhaze. I'm glad I'm not the only Broken News fan out there. What's your take on whether Broken News will get a second series?

Kirk

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Hi Kirk, believe it or not I am quite stunned by the negativity surrounding Broken News on here, as everyone I know absolutely loves it. However we're all from the same "film school, journalist uni course, BBC World Service beamed to your hotel room in Lithuania" crowd, so maybe it's only a select few that appreciate the humour.
So, regarding a second series, I think it will get one, but I think it'll get a new time slot. Putting it in the middle of two of the BBC's flagship comedy shows was probably a bit optimistic, because as has been seen here the comedy value of this show just isn't appreciated by the mainstream.
My only concern about it getting a more "tucked away" time slot is they might deem the budget for this show to be too big to attract anything other than a huge mainstream audience.
By the way, the Film Critic guy who "interviews" the directors and actors is ont of the funniest parodies I've seen for a long time. Of course it's over exaggerated but only just.
I also laugh every time the Arab guy is doing the world weather, don't know why but his delivery as he talks about the rainfall totals for Tajikistan makes me crease up.

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Yeah same here, all of my like minded friends enjoy Broken News as much as I do, so I am bewildered by its negative response here.

I see your point, with them using such a plethora of actors/studio/locations the budget is no doubt higher than your average BBC comedy. Perhaps it should have started life on BBC3 (like most other new comedies), gained a cult following then put into the mainstream. Anyway, lets just hope the second series comes along.

In regard to the Film Critic guy, I too like that character very much. He reminds me of a cross between Johnny Vaughan and Jonathan Ross! A personal favourite line of mine was 'Coming up, reports of racism in chess' - Pure genius.

Kirk

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Obviously the humour is far too subtle for the "Todays the day" crowd who like silly names and obvious jokes

After the first episode I turned over and watched the real news and continued laughing as they did *exactly* what was pariodied in the show ....


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I understand that it is subtle. My personal problem is that the I've traveled and seen load of diffrent news programs around the world and that many of them are actually funnier than Broken News was.

With their section reading out viewers e-mails, if you read the BBC Have your Say area you'll find much more extream and amusing e-mails.

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I like this show a lot. Maybe you guys are just too stupid to like it?

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Yes, because that wins the argument every time: "I liked it so it's you who are stupid". It's not about stupid, it's about taste.

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This show was pure hilarity. Maybe it was above you. It was on SBS in Australia and I nearly wet myself the first time I saw it and our news isn't even like that here! We don't have people standing and walking about.

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