i watched a little bit of this movie and a also have seen the play/musical
and this really was not closed to it the only thing thats right is the pie thing
but i also herd that Sweeney Todd was i killer in the 1800's is that true?
if so dose that mean that this movie is more like what really happend
then what the musical was?
The original story of Sweeney Todd was based on a penny dreadful: little stories that were posted in the newspaper. I think it's an amalgamation of folk tales. Some historians claim that Sweeney was real and that he was hung, but close investigation has shown that no-one has ever been caught by the Old Bailey under that name. It was only in the seventies that Steven Sondheim decided to turn it into the musical. This version is a great adaptation of the folk tale. If you want to see the musical, see the Tim Burton one which is also brilliant
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OMG Is your post for real?? You`ll be complaining next that the Von Trapp family look nothing like Julie Andrews and company!! The clue is in the name of this web site.. "Movie".. get it? Or so I "herd" !!
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It was Beautifully done on Broadway in 1979 when Harold Prince Directed it, Thanks to Tim Burton he brought SWEENEY Back to Life thought Film… Thank You Mr. Burton For a Wonderful Production!
sharei wouldnt say that the tim burton one was as easy to watch as this one though...ray winstone plays his character very well but i found that the tim burton film was just too singy...i dont mind musicals but i found it was just too much....and wouldnt watch it again...this however i have watched a couple of times...mind you....trust the american film guys to totally hollywoodafi a good story...
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i don't want to start anything...but of course the Burton movie that came out would be "singy", it's a MUSICAL. there are actually SEVERAL songs that were cut from the stage show that didn't make it into the movie!!
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but in relation to musicals like the king and i and sound of music, the sweeney todd one is a bit too much for me...thats just me though....totally believe it was worth a watch...but couldnt watch it again within a 6 month period...
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Totally agre with your observations on the musical. I would possibly debate the use of the word singy, Rocky Horror Show was 'singy', Sweeney Todd was more caterwauling, not because the cast couldn't sing but due to the lame songs they were given to work with?
Winston, on the other hand, took this story to another level. Less Hammer, more nail. You can envisage a real person being like this, addicted to murder like a crackhead.
BTW, I have a sister-in-law who worked in Fleet Street in the 70's. She also saw the 'Pie Shop' site but I still think its an Urban Myth type of thing. There's a true story in there somewhere but its like the grit at the heart of a pearl. ;-)
Eighty percent of the original Sondheim stage musical was sung. That is why it's so "singy"!
sharemary, you're another idiot.
shareSweeney Todd has always been a fictional character. The real story would be a man in France who killed people - he had an accomplice who used the bodies to make pies. The author of "A String of Pearls" could have been aware of that case and based the story upon it.
shareMeh, in my opinion, Tim Burton (who I usually love) took the humor out of the musical and transformed it merely into your run-of-the-mill dark films. The reason I've always had a soft spot for the musical because it was disturbingly funny...or disturbing because it was funny.
But the movie was just...disturbing.
I guess I like it, when I don't relate it to the broadway musical, but the shoddy singing can get annoying. I'm sorry, but it doesn't make sense when you are filming a "MUSICal" to not choose actors for their voices as well as their work. Not just for their work and when they have okay voices.
Silly Tim Burton.
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Nice to know there was a GOOD version of this. I thought the Tim Burton film was horrible (I usually love his stuff, but Tim, we're sick of seeing your wife in everything). Ray Winstone seems MUCH more appropriate as the title character.
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I agree. I like both Ray Winstone and Todd Slaughter as Todd, though if I had to put a definite out of the two it has to be Todd Slaughter, that film is really creepy!
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I like Todd Slaughter's version too. He is very theatrical which is very different to the way Ray Winstone plays Sweeney.
shareIt IS a great musical...if it's done right. But as posted here, the Tim Burton version was exceedingly blah. And I completely agree with a prior poster - Burton has to stop using his wife, or get her some acting lessons. She and Depp were absolutely abominable. It was like they were sleepwalking through their parts. No passion, no humor, completely expressionless, voices a dull monotone.
share"Lame songs they were given to work with"?? It's only one of the most magnificent scores ever composed for the Broadway stage; by Stephen Sondheim no less! Stop showing off your ignorance, it's embarrassing.
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I agree here
"Nice to know there was a GOOD version of this. I thought the Tim Burton film was horrible"
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"It IS a great musical...if it's done right. But as posted here, the Tim Burton version was exceedingly blah. And I completely agree with a prior poster - Burton has to stop using his wife, or get her some acting lessons. She and Depp were absolutely abominable. It was like they were sleepwalking through their parts. No passion, no humor, completely expressionless, voices a dull monotone."
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"Winston, on the other hand, took this story to another level. Less Hammer, more nail."
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""Lame songs they were given to work with"?? It's only one of the most magnificent scores ever composed for the Broadway stage"
I loved the play put on by my local university's theatre department. I thought the music was the best part of it, they had the orchestra pit and all. The movie.. ugh.
"Meh, in my opinion, Tim Burton (who I usually love) took the humor out of the musical and transformed it merely into your run-of-the-mill dark films"
Burton does this to everything he touches and it's retarded. I'm sorry I wasted my time checking out his version of Sweeney, expecting to like it. Man, he really knows how to wreck things.
Actually what Sondheim wrote is more of an opera that a musical. The Johnny Depp movie lost all of the humor and I could not understand one word Mrs. Lovett spoke. There is however a DVD of the stage version with Angela Lansbury as Mrs. Lovett. This one is the definition.
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