USSR Funded North Vietnam wanted to take over South Vietnam, impose their rules onto S.V., and kill anyone who got in their way. The US said, no way, we're not going to let you do that, and fought to protect S.V.'s Sovereignty and WE were the bad guys???????
When we pulled out, the N.V. invaded S.V., and butchered hundreds of thousands of S.V. ... and WE were the bad guys?
I thought the reason the US went in was "protecting democracy" but really just Communism-phobic. As the movie pointed out, there had never been democracy there. There had been a monarchy, and a rather nasty one, was I think how it was described. Hence, US were furthering their agenda of "fighting communism." As Hoover said in the footage in the film, good americans did not agree with "better red than dead." Ergo, he and the administration believed "better DEAD than communist." ANd that is how and why they acted.
You were the bad guys because you had no business in the region. Same in Cambodia. YOur butchering was no better than the butchering you decry in your comment here!
"When we pulled out, the N.V. invaded S.V., and butchered hundreds of thousands of S.V..."
Actually, it was probably 1.5 million........and the Left cheered.
They were quite proud of themselves.
When Joan Baez became aware of the unbridled slaughter that followed, she expressed her grief to Tom Hayden.
Hayden called her a tool of the CIA.
And I'll never understand why Jane Fonda wasn't charged with treason..............and shot.
Protesting war is not necessarily a bad thing......but if you have no useful, intelligent alternative.....you should remain silent.
"....and WE were the bad guys?"
Yeah, I never quite understood that reasoning either.
Same thing happened with Iraq.
We signed a U.N. resolution - as did many other nations/leaders - to remove Saddam if he did not comply. (Saddam Hussein himself signed-off on that same resolution.)
And when the time came to follow-through with that resolution, we (and other nations) showed-up......and we were derided.
.......and we have some of the same relics from the 60's (CSN&Y....Hayden....Fonda...) retreading the same old line.
CSN&Y actually got up on stage and sang "Tin soldiers and Nixon comin'..."
I would've laughed myself silly had I been there.
They've learned nothing.
They're idiots with serious blood on their hands.
Read a little more history, and you'll learn that a united Vietnam in the 1950s democratically & freely elected Ho Chi Minh as its president by at least 90%. The US government refused to accept this result, backing a minority political group that was more amenable to American interests, and soon we had North & South Vietnam.
I am old enough to remember those times, and I remember fervant anti-communists swearing that if we didn't defeat them in Vietnam, we'd be fighting the Chinese in California. No, I'm not exaggerating or making this up! People actually believed that -- just as they believed that there was a worldwide communist conspiracy, rather than various separate nations with communist governments -- several of which were mortal enemies (like China & Vietnam).
I'm not going to nominate the North Vietnamese for sainthood -- but let's remember that My Lai was not an isolated incident, it was something that happened all too many times; let's not forget the CIA's Phoenix program, in which thousand of South Vietnames were tortured & murdered on the merest suspicion of being communist agents; let's not forget "free fire zones," which declared that anyone within such a designated area was automatically "the enemy."
And let's not forget that it was a lie -- the Gulf of Tonkin incident -- that got America in even deeper. Just as the lie of WMDs got us into Iraq.
Those of us who opposed the war in Vietnam believed that it was an illegal, immoral, and certainly an unnecessary war. And it was. It tore this country apart, it killed & maimed tens of thousands of Americans, it killed nearly 2 million Vietnamese -- and none of it had to happen. It was such a horrible waste, such a monstrous tragedy. I weep at what it did to both America & Vietnam.
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You will always be the "bad guys" and it's getting more and more clear currently. I don't know if there were any country/empire/etc with such an unrealistic vision of the world. Just the fact that most americans thinks that "democracy = freedom" is enough to me.
You're a servant of your government (slave) who accept their foreign crimes like yours. You probably learn about Vietnam war from Platoon, and based on your moronic post I assume you may be trolling.
When South Vietnam asked for American Peaceful Army for help? Do you have any prove that about "USSR Funded North Vietnam"?
Your country - honestly props - had a bloody civil war where one of the main reasons (I don't know exactly) was the end of slavery. Cheers. And then it makes the ultimate rule - over the Constitution - a book that is like a slavery manual for dummies.
Any country 'funded' on religion belongs to the middle-ages. period.
Speaking as an American citizen who lived through those years, I can only agree with you, strattford.
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