Lennon said it himself...


I just watched a clip from this "documentary." He actually says that is was paranoid.

That pretty much explains the whole movie. Some drugged out Liberal musician gets paranoid and thinks the US government is after him.

I'd bet anything they have zero proof of anything they are accusing the United States Government with. Just a hunch.

If this movie is about Lennon, why is Gore Vidal mentioning GWB? This movie is nothing more that another Liberal smear campaign against Republicans. They have no choice but to resort to this brand of politics. They have no real idea's of their own and it shows.

So lets drum out another twelve documentaries about the Right and see what sticks.

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That really doesn't answer my question. Why is Gore Vidal using GWB's name in a movie about John Lennon?

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I saw this movie and Bush name is mention once and that's be Gore Vidal and he was stating his opinion about the Nixon adminstration being simliar to Bush's. The only time he said Bush's name was when he said he rep death..which i thought was funny. The paranoid thing was after John said yes they bugged my phones and followed me, i think they wanted me to notice. Yes i was scared and paranoid. You really need to see this movie before u start making judgements. Trailers take everything out of context. I didnt think the film tried to smear anything. They even had Liddy in there giving interviews and he's like president of the Nixon fan club. I think they were just tellin this one story from this man's life. There is no narrator, they let lennon tell his own story through tape interviews he's done and i think it was well done. they show documents and just go watch it...

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Why did you not listen to what Gore Vidal said? He is making connections between then and the present.

Don't like the fact that Bush is repeating Vietnam in Iraq, based upon his delusion that "the US could have won in Vietnam"? Then wake up and learn the facts, as alternative to the anti-"Liberal" and anti-peace hatefulness you swallow.

Are you a millionaire? No, you are not. Therefore, you got nothing from the Bush tax cuts. Yet you praise those tax cuts as good for -- who? You don't know.

Lennon was opposed to an illegal war. Gore Vidal is opposed to Bush's illegal invasion and occupation of non-threatening sovereign nation Iraq -- to Bush's racist, genociadl repeat of the US's illegal involvement in Vietnam.

Drop the lies you prefer to reality and wake up: Bush is the domestic enemy the Founders warned us against.

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"I just watched a clip from this "documentary."

I suggest that you try watching the whole movie.
There are amazing heroes we've forgotten, good men
who just made bad decisions, and an interesting
metamorphosis of a young rock and roll star turned
activist. These times were very different.

Gore Vidal mentions GWB, because he, like many
others, see history repeating itself with a bit
different tune.

- ÑôßöÐÿZ

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I'd bet anything they have zero proof of anything they are accusing the United States Government with. Just a hunch.

Well, your hunch would be wrong.

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So your a betting man? Well so am I, and I can't pass up on easy money! You say you'll bet anything? 1,000 2,000 5,000. Obviously you my friend are extremely ignorant. Maybe you should keep your mouth shut till you know what your talking about! Guess you have no knowledge of the FBI files that were released which confirm Lennon's suspicions. Go see the movie and get the facts before you go flapping your gums!!!! Again!!

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"He actually says that is was paranoid. That pretty much explains the whole movie"

The first sentance lacks structure.

<i>I'd bet anything they have zero proof of anything they are accusing the United States Government with. Just a hunch. </i>

Would you believe the FBI?

http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/lennon.htm

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"He actually says that is was paranoid. That pretty much explains the whole movie"

The first sentance lacks structure.

I'd bet anything they have zero proof of anything they are accusing the United States Government with. Just a hunch.

Would you believe the FBI?

http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/lennon.htm

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John Lennon was paronoid, he said so himself in that movie.

The FBI was investigating him because he was trying to disrupt the RNC. I have no problem with that.

This movie should be called John Lennon vs. The U.S.

He is the one on the offensive, then when he is looked into it's a horrible crime.

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No, Lennon was not trying to disrupt the RNC. In fact, when he learned that was what Hoffman and Rubin (who I knew personally) wanted from him, he withdrew from the proposed concert tour.

All Lennon did was exercise his First Amendment rights: freedom of conscience, belief, and speech.

Nixon, and the FBI, violated Lennon's rights by infringing upon his proper exercise of those rights in effort not only to silence him but also to deport him because he was a high-profile peace activist.

That effort was also illegal and anti-American. When the court learned that that was the reality behind the effort to deport Lennon, the govt's case was thrown out.

It was Nixon, not Lennon, who wsted taxpayer monies on that violation of constitutionally-guaranteed rights.

The US is not meant to be a police state where the gov't attempts to silence critics of its policies, regardless how much you are for silencing all who have a different view than you.

Lennon had courage. Yours, by contrast, is a Nixonian weasel's attitude: anti-American.

Get the facts, or learn to keep your uninformed silence.

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They do have proof. The FBI didn't relese the file until John was murdered.

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There is lots of proof, if you care to look into it. The Nixon administration was most paranoid that they felt Lennon was going to influence people to vote Nixon out of office; thats why nixon harassed Lennon, among many other on his "Enemies List". Do a little research before you assuming you know it all.

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When the military says the US is losing in Iraq, you can be certain they know more about military matters than chickenhawks Bush, Chaney, Rumsfeld, et al.

And doubtless, because you can'[t tolerate reality, you'll accuse the military of bashing bush, instead of accepting the fact: the US is losing in Iraq.

That's what happens when, on top of illegally invading and occupying the ountry, Bush orders the torture of those he lies that he is "liberating" from: being tortured.

None of which has any direct relevance to a film about John Lennon. About which you are dead wrong.

In fact, at the behest of Nixon, Lennon's phone was illegally tapped, he was surveiled, and effort was made to deport him. All because he exercised his right of free speech, and told the truth.

On top of which, Nixon was more paranoid than Lennon. Then again, he had "reason" to be paranoid: he was engaged in assaults upon the Constitution.

Yes, what Lennon says about the US gov't's campaign against him is true: research it and you'll find a several-edition book about those facts, based upon the extensive FBI dossier compiled on -- what? -- a musician who happened to be a peace activist, and exercised his freedom of speech.

One's right of free speech is to be protected from gov't interference, intimidation, or other anti-American actions. Nixon got his: one of the articles of impeachment against him was because of his illegal wiretapping of his political actual and perceived opponents -- which included John Lennon.

Out of that law-breaking came: FISA. And what has your hero Bush done in relation to that law? Lie about it -- by contrast, and in fact, it allows wiretapping before one gets a warrant. You hero has violated the law -- and constitution -- on this matter alone beyond Nixon's wildest imaginings.

Yeah, I know: you're jealous; you want a really big war so you can strut around -- out of uniform, and out of the line of fire -- imagining how heroic and patriotic you are. Well, you do have an illegal war -- as was US involvement in Vietnam. And it is essentially a repeat of Vietnam, perpetrated on an innocent people by a gang of anti-American draft-dodgers who are ar war with the rule of law itself.

Lennon was a musician and peace activist. Hating him is pure defense against reality; there are others more worthy of your enmity; and they are Bush and the political party which has just stripped everyone -- including you -- of Constitutional rights which are to be inalienable.

Wake up; or find yourself making the same false excuses twenty and thirty and forty years from now.

and that won't be John Lennon's fault -- though you learn from Bush to allways blame everyone else for your mistakes.

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Bush allows wiretapping of people suspected of TERRORISM. Not simple dissent as Nixon did.

---
Roger Keith "Syd" Barrett, 1946-2006. Shine on.

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JNagarya

Thank you for this post. You said it better than I can at the moment.
It's always good to see people who still have the courage left to
debate, stand up and be heard for what they believe in, what they
see, what they have experienced.

I was there, at the time, too. I know the truth of this movie.
Because someone doesn't like their favorite president bashed
does not make a very good review in my opinion. It does, however,
make for a good reason to press "STOP" and take the DVD out or
change the channel. It is a free country, at least to some extent,
still.

John Lennon experienced what we now all experience as a society,
even beyond what Lennon experienced: deportation without a reason,
prison without habeas corpus, etc.

- ÑôßöÐÿZ

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Amazing how people can make detailed comments about a movie that they haven't even seen. The height of presumption!

In the film ex-FBI agents, John Dean and G.Gordon Liddy all confirm that Lennon was unjustly targeted by the FBI because of the people with which he associated. Lennon's paranoia was warrented.

I'd love to read some more reviews of movies you haven't seen.

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comments by people who saw a clip and think they know the whole thing are never interesting.

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