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Any other movies with fight scenes as good as this one?


I'm deeply interested.

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Nearly anything in Donnie Yen's filmography would be a good place to start (not including the handful of crummy American films he's been in).

Iron Monkey, In The Line Of Duty 4, Legend of the Wolf, Ballistic Kiss, Wing Chun, Tiger Cage, Tiger Cage 2, Asian Cop: High Voltage feature some excellent choreography.

The upcoming Flash Point, also with Yen and made by largely the same crew as SPL, looks like it may equal SPL in terms of intense fight scenes.

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Legend of the Wolf? Are you serious?

The fight scenes in that film are basically *cut* *cut* *cut* *cut* *cut*. You can't tell what the hell is going on most of the time in the fights, unlike Sha Po Lang or Iron Monkey.

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oh yes indeed, chech out Donnie Yen's latest movie, Flashpoint aka Dao Huo Xian. It's a prequel of sorts to SPL, and the fighting scenes are the best bar none.

The ending is a full 15 minute non-stop brawl with a mixture of Commando Sambo, Capoeira and Wushu all blended into what Donnie calls "Practical Fighting". Or somehting like that.

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I'm absolutely serious about LEGEND OF THE WOLF. The style Yen used there is just as legitimate as any other filmic martial art style. They're ALL constructed the way you mentioned. Cut Cut Cut Cut. Read David Bordwell's Planet Hong Kong and you'll learn all about the rather specific style of action scene construction used by HK choreographers, directors and editors, which is much less varied than people might want to think, especially if all they've seen are the usual Jet Li/Jackie Chan actioners, although even those adhere to the same rules. Some directors may cut on different beats, they may use longer individual shots (we're talking nanoseconds here) or they may even ADD a little camera trickery on top of it all (like swish panning, etc.), but Cut Cut Cut Cut is the rule of the day. Actually, it's more of a pause-burst-pause effect in terms of the actual choreography, but in order to give that any kind of momentum, you HAVE to cut cut cut cut. That's what they DO. Donnie Yen just ramped up everything in LEGEND OF THE WOLF. He choreographed faster (look closely at a clean, proper widescreen cut of the film—which is virtually impossible to find— and you'll see there IS in fact a lot happening between those cuts), he edited faster, he probably even undercranked the camera, but so what. He's not the first, but he certainly presented an interesting take on the same old same old. Funny, though, when Tsui Hark does virtually the same thing in the Blade a couple years earlier, people raved that he'd reinvented the wheel.

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Apparently Eastern Promises is supposed to have an epic fight scene too.

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The bathhouse fight scene in Eastern Promises was awesome, but it's not martial arts, which I'm sure is what the original poster was asking for.

I HIGHLY recommend Tony Jaa's two films, Ong-Bak and The Protector(Tom Yum Goong). The guy will be huge...love his original fighting style, amazing acrobatics, and no wire work, just pure skills.

Unleashed with Jet Li, and his early Hong Kong stuff like The Once Upon A Time In China trilogy, Fist of Legend, The Defender, and more.

Jackie Chan's old stuff too, especially Police Story 1 and 2, Supercop, Operation Condor, Legend of Drunken Master, etc.

If you want some good sword/wire fighting, go with the recent Wuxia films like Hero, House of Flying Daggers, Curse of the Golden Flower, and Fearless.


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I absolutely loved The Protector.
It's like the Hard-Boiled of fighting movies.

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Hard Boiled is an amazing movie

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8 years ago, osiris3657 predicted that Tony Jaa would be "huge." Since then, Jaa starred in a mere three films, each considered a failure. Talk about a horrible prediction!

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Despite only being in about 6 movies since that post he's still only behind Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan and Jet Li in terms of Asian martial art fame. He was thwarted by signing a bad contract and took on too much with the Ong Bak sequels.

Donnie Yen is probably the next biggest but is still pretty much unknown compared to Jaa to most people outside of martial art movie fans. Hopefully the new Star Wars film will showcase some of his skills to a massive audience and give him more recognition.

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His scene was bad-ass indeed in Rogue One but the film needed more of him fighting.

Still, better than nothing, especially coming from a Hollywood blockbuster. I wasn't expecting anything at all to be honest.

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The protector was disapointing. Ong bak was brilliant, similiar to kill zone in that the fighting is convincing, intense and full contact. I too love the fighting coreography of Kill zone, I've been looking for similiar films as well. For somthing similiar check out Dragon Tiger gate, not quite as good, more wire work and special effects but the same style of contact high impact fighting. I've heard flashpoint is good as well looks very similiar I've bought it but it hasn't arrived yet. Fearless is also a brilliant film. Also check out Jackie chans older stuff Meals on wheels, Dragons forever, Project A and Police Story to name some of the best.

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I always liked the fights in the Once Upon a Time in China movies.

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'Fatal Move' is the spiritual successor to this film. Same cast, director etc. It's a more mature story too.

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Which Protector? The Jackie Chan one or the Tony Jaa one? If you mean the Tony Jaa one...it sucked. It felt like Police Story 5(First Strike) too much with the whole Asian going to Australia and causing trouble. Anyway Invisible Target has some cool fights. As does Dragon Tiger Gate, any of Donnie Yen's previous work(avoid Seven Swords though) and any of Sammo Hungs work.

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Star Blazer is crazy the Protector is a fantastic martial arts movie

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Ip Man is the all time greatest.
Also
supercop
Ong Bak
The Protector


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I'm VERY surprised to see that no-one has mentioned any of the early Cory Yuen movies! Those have easily some of the best choreography in film history:

-Righting Wrongs (Above the Law)
-Yes, Madam!
-My Father is a Hero (The Enforcer)
-High Risk (Meltdown)
-The Defender (Bodyguard from Beijing)
-Dragon Lord (Dragon Strike)
-Drunken Master
-Snake in Eagle's Shadow


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Flashpoint, although a lesser film than SPL in terms of character and plot, is superior in the fight scenes.

Donnie Yen's choreography in Flashpoint is absolutely breathtaking, especially the final fight between him and Collin Chou. So far the gold standard of martial arts fights, barring none.

Dragon Tiger Gate is stylistically different, it being based on a manga comic after all, but still visually interesting.

The Ip Man movies with Donnie Yen also have excellent fight scenes, but I guess Flashpoint spoiled me. I can no longer watch martial arts movies without thinking why they didn't include MMA. Such is life.



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The fight scenes in Flashpoint were ridiculous. Way too heavily sped up and there's some stupid wired scenes. Considering how much it tries to look realistic, it's quite unrealistic. The fight scenes in S.P.L. were far superior. Quality instead of quanity.

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That was a question I had. Were the fights in Flash Point actually sped up? Did they also speed up any in this movie? I just bought this but it has not arrived yet, but I'm curious.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers mate!

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It's been years I have seen Flash Point, but when they fight toward the end in a half-built (or just ruinous) house, the sped up was quite obvious and distracting.

Anyway, in most of these movies the fights are undercranked, they usually use 20, 21, 22 frames per seconds instead of 24. Probably 20 for most of the time. So the short answer is "yes", but it's true for virtually all of these kind of movies. What truly matters is how it is done: with what speed, exposure, and the actors' rythm.

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Not at all. I've seen almost all of Sammo Hung's and Jackie Chan's movies but I could only name a few which was too heavily undercranked. Most of them were done very well. Just like SPL. Flash Point pales in comparsion, yeah - in its quality.

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It has nothing to do what I'm a fan of. SPL has nothing to do with Jackie Chan.

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It has nothing to do what I'm a fan of. SPL has nothing to do with Jackie Chan.

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Drunken Master and Snake in the Eagle's Shadow are not Corey Yuen movies. They are Yuen Woo Ping's.

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