IS IT JUST ME? - Firehouse Dog (2007) Discussion

Grindhouse ain't something you take a kid to. Y'know, they came up with the idea for that one in three minutes, right?

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[–] mevans-19 17 years ago

WOW! Obviously someone who has never ventured outside of vanilla safe mainstream Hollywood.

Look I don't mean to criticize...you certainly have a right to your opinion...but at least GRINDHOUSE has some roots in history -- a loving homage to a bygone era.

But it's just my sneaking suspision that someonee who would actually come to the defense of FIREHOUSE DOG let that entire era...or genre...pass him (or her) by. Let me guess -- you've never even seen a 70's exploitation film -- a violent horror flick, car chase movie (and I'm not talking about SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT), or blaxploitation movie.

Look I could be wrong, and forgive me if I am. I just can't see someone who has ever had the pleasure of viewing something like VANISHING POINT, ZOMBIE or any flick from the AIP archives looking at a trailer for FIREHOUSE DOG and saying "that's a good idea."

And before you call me an "irresponsible parent" which I'm sure you're thinking...we're talking about my daughter who is 16 and my son who is going on 9 and probably knows more about film "history" than most 30-year-olds. Not every kid can appreciate Universal Horror flicks from the 1930's, Sergio Leone spaghetti westerns AND Star Wars.

I'm tired of my kids being subjected to an endless barrage of bad "dumbed down" kid flicks. SHAGGY DOG? Awful. ZOOM? Dreadful. TMNT? You gotta be kiddiing. HAPPILY N'EVER AFTER? Ghastly. NANNY MCPHEE? That one was awesome -- exteremly well done (thank you Emma), but that was almost two years ago.

All I'm saying is our kids deserve better than tired plot devices and fart jokes. I'd rather have my kids grow up with a sense of what constitutes a good film than have them grow up thinking that something like WILD HOGS is a work of genius. Because that's what claptrap like FIREHOUSE DOG leads to.

My two cents...kill me if you must.

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[–] valro 17 years ago

I certainly would take an older child to see "Grindhouse". My girls certainly would enjoy that much more than those dumbed down "children's movies" that seem to have become so common lately. One of my almost 17 year old daughter's favorite movies is "A Clockwork Orange".

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[–] kris385 17 years ago

A Clockwork Orange?? Have YOU ever watched that?

kris

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[–] mevans-19 17 years ago

Okay...we have someone here who now has a problem with probably the most talented film director who EVER LIVED!!!! Wow I started this thread with a simple thought. Once I start 'em...I usually don't come back, but this is fun.

Yeah...okay...what's the problem with a 17-year-old embracing A CLOCKWORK ORANGE? Stanley Kubrick was a master film maker -- again quite possibly the greatest director of all time!!! My personal favorite Kubrick film? BARRY LYNDON...but CLOCKWORK (for me anyway) is a very close second.

And for your information, I saw ORANGE for the first time when I was 14. It didn't make me want to go out and rape any women. It didn't make me want to join a gang. It made me want to seek out the rest of Kubrick's catalog (and that wasn't exactly easy to do in 1985).

I guess the 17-year-old's should just stick to...what...the latest Lindsey Lohan vehicle? (Okay, probably a bad example because she was in Altman's Prarie Home Companion). Um...what...BLADES OF GLORY? There was a pretty lame attempt to cash in on WF's TALLEDEGA NIGHTS success. Oh wait there's a new HARRY POTTER movie this summer! Ooooo...my daughter tells me they're never as good as the books anyway.

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[–] crips01 17 years ago

The only reason way I am going to see Firehouse Dog (FHD) is because I want to see how they characterize the Irish Terrier. All the other details of the movie are stuff I have already seen in numerous other of this Disney formula. What has always amused me about such movies is the fact they think people will not pick up on the details of the animals. It makes me wonder how stupid they must think we are when you see a bitch in one scene then a dog in another. It is like the movie Winterhawk, Here in Wyoming where we know and appreciate a good looking horse it is hilarious in the movie to see a mare ride into a aspen grove and a stallion ride out the other side in the same scene, and another where the horse is clearly a gelding. The real howler is the scene where the main character is striking a "noble savage" pose on one of the Leopard Appaloosa horses. It was a snowy day when Winterhawk looked across the wilderness, to one side was the brief shadow of a telephone pole on the snow and then the cement drainage pipe finished the scene. We where laughing our butts off.

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[–] mevans-19 17 years ago

HAH! I never thought of that -- ANIMAL CONTINUITY ERRORS! That's awesome. One of my friends does that with cars in movies.

Me? I do it with record labels. It drives me insane when a song is playing in a movie, they show a record spinning on a turntable, and IT'S THE WRONG LABEL! On the same note though, it impresses the hell out of me when they get a label right. Cheers for the art director!!!

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[–] pazsky 17 years ago

Wow, now we critique animal erors? Movies are meant for ENTERTAINMENT, does anybody other than people in Wyoming care if there is a mare and then a stallion? Remind me NEVER to go to Wyoming, who knows what goes on there with the horses....

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[–] MovieLover11 17 years ago

Oh, so now you're BASHING Harry Potter? Well, let me tell you something, Harry Potter may not be exactly like the books, but they are great films, and if you don't like that then you can back off. Witch...BTW, this is directed to the thing that capitalizes all of the movie titles and and writes really long posts.

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[–] rosek102 17 years ago

I would definitely recommend that you see this movie if you have not already. The previews make it look like just another typical family flick with dogs and kids, but it truly does have a great story.

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[–] Lisa-Of-The-Jungle 17 years ago

ventured outside of vanilla safe mainstream Hollywood

How long did it take you with the thesaurus to come up with that line?

Look I don't mean to criticize...you certainly have a right to your opinion

Somehow you seem to lose that thought in the rest of your posts.

Let me guess -- you've never even seen a 70's exploitation film -- a violent horror flick, car chase movie (and I'm not talking about SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT), or blaxploitation movie.

I'm not sure how any of that is award winning Cinema or better than any of the other films you mentioned, but whatever you like to tell yourself.

and my son who is going on 9 and probably knows more about film "history" than most 30-year-olds

Let me know what name to engrave on the trophy.

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[–] mevans-19 17 years ago

Wow! I must say defenders of "family film" sure do spew lots of hatred.

All I do is voice an opinion and look for an intelligent rebuttal.

Still waiting for someone who HAS ACTUALLY SEEN any of the movies I talked about in any of my posts to tell me exactly what's wrong with them.

That's why I keep coming back. Again...this is awesome. There is one thing I do notice though. Nobody else replies to this thread more than once. Perhaps I'm making good points?

I don't know. Keep the angry stuff coming.

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[–] Lisa-Of-The-Jungle 17 years ago

I must say defenders of "family film" sure do spew lots of hatred.

So far I've only seen one person spewing anything close to hatred and that's you.

Still waiting for someone who HAS ACTUALLY SEEN any of the movies I talked about in any of my posts to tell me exactly what's wrong with them.

Never said there was anything wrong with them, but at the same time, how can you say people are wrong for not liking them?

That's why I keep coming back. Again...this is awesome..... Keep the angry stuff coming.

This right here is proof you are not looking for "intelligent rebuttal" or for an intelligent discussion. You are looking to argue and insult. Which explains this:

Nobody else replies to this thread more than once

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[–] icecsm16202 17 years ago

No....it's not just you. I agree. How many times will Hollywood continue to make the same old garbage? Can't they ever come up with something original?

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[–] JosephJoeKerr 17 years ago

YOUR SON IS GAY PLEASE LET HIM SEE QT AND RR MOVIE MIGHT MAKE HIM LIKE WOMEN

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[–] mevans-19 17 years ago

WOW! The BATMAN7 reply -- I'm lost.

Lisa doesn't like me though. I just keep coming back because the GRINDHOUSE threads move too damn quickly.

At least more people are agreeing with me though. Point being -- kids shouldn't be subjected to dreck like FIREHOUSE DOG.

Remember MARY POPPINS? Good story, good tunes, character developement, no rude humor for the simpletons. Once in awhile Hollywood gets it right for the kids. More often than not though, it's just the same old junk.

So Lisa...what's good? Some suggestions...just curious as to what you like. We may agree. We may not. But I ALWAYS back up my criticisms.

Keep em coming....

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[–] JosephJoeKerr 17 years ago

im tryin to help u and your son
who is lisa

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[–] mevans-19 17 years ago

HEY JASPER...

Actually he's seen BOTH. Because of my job, we basically see everything for free. So my wife and I go to the movies A LOT. Sometimes with the kids...sometimes without.

As far as my son's behavior in movies, he's not one of those problem kids. Believe me, I know the ones you're talking about. Hell, my son even hates those kids...and he's not quite 9! My big thing is when the parents come with a stroller in tow -- believe me I give them an evil look before their baby even wakes up!

He saw MEET THE ROBINSONS...laughed a couple of times, but wasn't impressed. FIREHOUSE DOG...same thing. GRINDHOUSE...kid made me take him back a second time! And I never forced him to go. He knew this thing was coming for months. Now he's counting down the days until THE SIMPSONS MOVIE.

Now look, I'm not stupid. I know I may have been pushing the envelope a bit with that one, but I wanted the kid to at least have some sort of memorable experience at the movies...instead of just the same old stuff. And in this case, it was showing the kid an example of something that sadly doesn't happen much anymore.

And RR and QT aren't dumb either. They knew this movie wasn't "real GRINDHOUSE." But they must have done something right because the first thing my son asked me as we were leaving the theater was "Dad, do you have VANISHING POINT?" So there you go...the movie served its purpose. It's a "gateway flick" for a whole new generation. Now does that mean I'm going to be sitting the kid in the home theater this weekend for a screening of Lucio Fulci's ZOMBIE? Of course not. But I DID show him VANISHING POINT and he loved it.

So again...it's all about balance. Every child is different. My whole argument on this whole thread...which most people are missing...is the fact that Hollywood cranks out A LOT of junk and sadly a lot of it is aimed at kids. They're more intelligent than we give them credit for.

FIREHOUSE DOG was awful! And yeah...I did see it.

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[–] Lisa-Of-The-Jungle 17 years ago

Hi, I'm Lisa

The OP, I think it was the OP at least, is referring to my post where I said he was just looking to argue.

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[–] mevans-19 17 years ago

WOW! PHANTASM! I completely forgot about that one! "BOOOOOYYYYY!"

You saw that theatrically? I'm jealous.

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[–] captainloco 17 years ago

I thnk you're entitled to your opinion. Movies like Firehouse Dog are not just for children. Many people that love animals like this type of film not to mention owners of the breed that appear in the movie. Your son probably loves animals and would enjoy the film. Who knows maybe one day he'll become a Vet or work in animal rescue.

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[–] ooinertoo 17 years ago

LOL i agre

i seriously thought i would see Tim Allen pop up out of no where

and it looks beyond retarded, glad your taking him to Grindhouse that should fix him up

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[–] klin3363 17 years ago

Your son is nine years old. At nine years old, I think its normal to watch some "dumbed down kids movies." he's not seventeen! i understand what you're saying about it not being well-made and its not going to be a classic or whatever. i definetely prefer deeper, more mature movies instead of the little kids' ones. but i mean come on, hes NINE! let him watch a couple kids movies, since he IS a kid!

and complaining because you have to take your son to a movie?? hes your son and you should be glad he wants to do things with you because many kids don't want to do stuff with their parents. yes, even at nine years old.

I made a new friend today.
Real or imaginary?
Imaginary.

xoxo jen

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[–] mevans-19 17 years ago

Wow! I've been a way a few days...Firehouse Dog has died at the box office...but this thread lives on. I can't believe it.

Hey Jen...

I DID take him to see FIREHOUSE DOG. Like I said, kid wasn't really impressed. We go to the movies A LOT together...so yeah, I AM glad when he wants to go. This weekend he wants to go to HOT FUZZ. So there's Sunday afternoon. We're BOTH looking forward to that one.

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[–] klin3363 17 years ago

Well that's GREAT for you, BUT i truly think that nine year olds shouldn't be watching movies such as HOT FUZZ. But as it already happened, i HOPE it went well and you both ENJOYED it.

Like my usage of capitalization? got it from you.

I made a new friend today.
Real or imaginary?
Imaginary.

xoxo jen

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[–] KoKaGreen 17 years ago

I'm 15 and when I seen the preview of Firehouse Dog, I thought:

Anyone who seen that and said, "Damn, that looks awesome." Must be retarded. And my step-brother does have mental retardation and even he said it looked bad.

I can't predict the future, but even Fantastic Four looks pretty lame to me.

I would much rather watch one of the existing movies from awesome eras like:

Casablanca.
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly.
A Clockwork Orange.
The Hustler.
In the Heat of the Night.
To Kill a Mockingbird.
The Godfather. (Sorry, I know. It's a dude's film)
The Deer Hunter (Another dude movie...)
The Shawshank Redemption. (Which, I CAN'T believe is only rated 3 stars on Charter)
Annie Hall
Taxi Driver (It may be just me, but I thought Travis Bickle was hot.)
Bonnie and Clyde

... I went a little overboard. But those are some examples of movies that are good, great, excellent. At least in my mind. ^^

-Cho.

R.I.P., Chaaarlie.

Love you for always!

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[–] rufustilskin 15 years ago

I think that any parent who takes their kid to an R rated movie is a very irresponsible person. Those movies are NOT for kids under 17. Why would you do that to your kid? They don't need to see blood, sex, and violence at a young age. Personally I think that movie theaters need to start denying admission to parents who take their kids to an R rated movie. I went and saw the South Park movie when it was in theaters and there was a couple who took their young boys to see it. IT ISN'T A KID MOVIE! There was so many things in that movie that kids should not be seeing. Why do parents think its ok to take their kid to an R rated movie? If you want to see it then get a sitter and go see it yourself. By the way my kids like Firehouse dog and I will never take them to an R rated movie until they are old enough.

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