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a different angle to the ending (SPOILER)


In the other postings concerning the ending mostly the attitude and motives of Ashraf, the suicide bomber, were discussed, while the angle of the Israelis involved was neglected.
"Buah", the Hebrew word for "Bubble" is not only used for Tel- Aviv and that special group of people living around Sheinkin Street, but also for the leftist peace movement, which awoke during the 2nd intifada from an idealized dream.
The film shows, that no matter how far you reach out your hand towards the Palestinian side, it might just catch you up and even cost your own life. This has happened time and again, when Israeli farmers, who had employed Palestinian workers for years and years in trust, were then during the 2nd intifada murdered in the most treachous way by the very same Palestinian workers, who betrayed the close relationship they had enjoyed by their employers.

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This just sounds like more biased, racist, generalized *beep* I don't deny that what you say has happened before, but your statement comes off as blaming the Palestinians for the conflict between the two groups.

The conflict is carried out by both groups.

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I agree with you onvinyl

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I agree with you too ONVINYL

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The Intifadas unleashed dangerous emotions on both sides that translated into evil deeds.

I wonder how many of those "Palestinian workers {employed ...for years and years in trust} who killed their israeli emplyers were, in fact. laboring on land that had belonged to their own families in the past, before they were displaced? And how many of those employers were cynically exploiting the Palestinians in the same way as the management at the kosher meat packing plant in Iowa were subjecting their illegal workers to near slvery, colluding to get false identifications while sweating them for 12 hour shifts with minimal breaks at minimal pay?

I wish things were simpler for everybody. There are victims, heroes, zealots, crooks, idealists, fanatics on both sides.

Shalom/Salaam

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The ending is the one thing I didn't like about this movie. It didn't make any sense to me.

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I agree. It felt contrived and self-serving. The character's actions in the final moments of the movie didn't make sense at all. It just felt out of character, and the cheesy effect (the last moment they see each other face to face) didn't help. It almost ruined the whole movie for me.

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I don't see what a kosher meat packing plant that exploits its employees has anything to do with this issue. A equal number of Jews, I believe the number is around 100,000 were expelled from Arab countries where they lived for many generations during the 1940s and 1950s. They were taken in by Israel or by other countries. They did not remain refugees the way the Arab nations have kept the Arabs who left or were expelled from Israel/Palestin refugees all these years to use as a politcal weapon against Israel. There are now Arabs living in the homes they had to leave and of which many of them still have the keys to. The world only acknowledges the arab victims of this regional conflict.

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As I said, the ongoing conflicts arouse deep and dangerous emotions. there's no denying that both Arabs and Jews suffered displacement and worse at the time of the estblishment of Irael. My reference to the exploited workers at the kosher abbatoir was related to the possible exploitation of Palestinian workers on land that they had occupied and owned for generations. Certainly, the Palestinians--a group whose composition remains ambiguous--and Jews have been kicked around as footballs by too many sides.

You talk about Arabs "living in the homes they had to leave" but how many of them are there? And how many Palestinians are kept from harvesting their produce every year by zealots? And, equally, how many LEGITIMATE Jewish farmers are shot at by fanatical anit-Israelites? There's nothing simple here, no black/white distinctions that are eaily made AND defensible.

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wow... misconstruing the point of the movie much? It's not taking sides, but showing the horror on both parts.

Life's a bitch, but god forbid the bitch divorce me

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exactly, Resident-Psych0 - that's why Ashraf and Noam both die at the end - it's not subtle, but it does get the point across - the desire for revenge just creates more deaths, more grief, more hatred...

I thought the movie did a great job of showing the humanity, the bigotry, the love, suffering, humour, all the things that all the characters share, regardless of religion, ethnicity or nationality.

a good tragic romance, among other things.

"The 21st century is when it all changes, and you have to be ready"
Captain Jack Harkness

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LOL, you can't by the very nature of Israeli-Palestinian relationship reach out as an Israeli--the oppressor oppressed dynamic is always there.

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Its because of people like you there is misery and hatred in the world....but Karma is the only universal justice...good luck to you you will need it since you are a terrible person.

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