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this is kinda like when Dylan went electric


this is kinda like when Dylan went electric
Harmony Korine goes all sweet and sentimental
and pisses off his "biggest fans" by doing what he wants
instead of what people expect



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Gimme a break! He *tried* to get sweet and sentimental, but it came across as more like trite and cliched

Consider these deep emotional statements:

Marilyn Monroe: "I think death is easy, life is much harder"

Michael Jackson: "They are searching for happiness, but the true happiness is within themselves"

Now, excuse me while I PUKE!

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I didn't find the movie sweet and sentimental at all...this is as dark as anything I've ever seen. The seemingly trite cliche lines were certainly not meant to be taken at face value; I don't think anything in the movie was. It was entirely allegorical, and having just seen it I haven't puzzled it all out, but it seems sort of like Todd Haynes' Safe to me, a story about the dangers of escape and isolation. The characters all escape into other people's identities, and take the further step of isolating themselves on an island. They completely lose touch and that's why(spoiler warning) their show they put on fails, and Marilyn kills herself. The sheep dying is symbolic of something too, and somehow it all comes together with the nuns. Again, I haven't puzzled this out completely(and if I realized my first impression was wrong I'll post again), but it's certainly not sentimental or sweet in the least.

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I wouldn't waste too much mental energy on trying to figure this one out... to me, it's just a bunch of quirky scenes thrown together with a cliched sentimental remark made every so often to try to give it some type of emotional impact

For more "clues", consider reading Richard Strange's (Abe Lincoln) account of shooting the film:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/film-and-tv/features/how-an-eccentric-new-film-gave-richard-strange-a-summer-he-will-never-forget-798607.html

Reading that sure doesn't seem to point to a director with any sort of "master plan" so to speak.... more just like a kooky punk shooting a bunch of random whatever

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'when dylan went electric' HAHAHA i love it!
i use that alot to explain bad changes too

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"Reading that sure doesn't seem to point to a director with any sort of "master plan" so to speak.... more just like a kooky punk shooting a bunch of random whatever"

I believe the director who knows how a scene or furthermore a whole film will be at the end is a fairy tale.

That goes for directors WITH a vision AND a screenplay which they striclty follow.

But my most favourite aproach to directing, wirting and acting is to improvis like Wim Wender's "Der Himmel über Berlin", most of Herzog's work or Korine's or von Trier's.

Terry Gilliam says in "Gilliam on Gilliam" that he used to believe what his idols said, creating the legend of the grand auteur.
I'm starting to myake films on my own and I cannot think of doing films other than an organic process without one or more people involved who have comletley sorted out how to do everything and striclty holding on to it.

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um its nowhere near as good and it'll have NOWHERE near an impact on society or the artist in question's future work.


i thought it was OK but it only kind of skimmed the surface a bit.

I thought it would be a lot deeper then it was. Movie just kind of sat there for me. I loved the premise and the idea that to celebrate life, these people want to celebrate someone else, but honestly it just seemed too meandering to actually acheive its purpose. The endless montage scenes at the colony should have been the highpoint of the movie, not the point where i'm thinking ok i get it, i get it there's abe lincoln and there's the 3 stooges, and their throwing paint at each other and they shouldn't be together but they are, what else you have?

all that said Diego Luna did a good job here. I would say the same about Sam Morton, but the truth is i feel she got rather short shrift by the screenplay.

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Are you high or just a jacka$$? Dylan going electric wasn't a "bad change". It was the artist's natural progression. Duh.

Which is something I hope this film accomplishes because this guy is usually pretentious & annoying.

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With Dylan going electric, there were a million people who cared. With Korine, it's like 100.

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I liked it, but waited years to see it. To correct some one who posted in 2008, the Monroe impersonator said At least death would not not take as long as life. I thought that was delivered and writin well.

In the Heart of the Sea is a great book

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