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Is Terrence Howard considered A-List?


Is Terrence Howard considered A-List? If so, just wondering how many black actors are on A-List in 2007.

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Terrence Howard is not there yet, but he is in lots of upcoming big movies so wait for it. Will Smith, Eddie Murphy, Don Cheadle, Samuel L. Jackson, Denzel Washington, and some others I'm probably forgetting are A-Listers.

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The A-listers if I am not mistaking are
Jamie (I'll Rock Yo' World) Foxx
Denzel(Washington that is),
Will "Big Willy" Smith,
Samuel Leroy Jackson (Bad Mutha Fu...)
Laurence "Larry" Fishburne,
Eddie(Charlie's bro)Murphy,
Martin "Mar aan" Lawrence,
Hallie "Beautiful" Berry.,
Beyonce "Bootylicius" Knowles
The Queen(Latifah that is),
The Wayans Brothers
Ice Cube(Coolest dude in the Wood),
Cedric "Ceddy Bear" The Entertainer,
Bernie "Who ya wit?!!" Mac,
The Don(Cheadle that is)
"slick" Nick Cannon
Morgan "Easy Reader" Freeman
James Todd Smith AKA L.L. Cool J
Chris "Not Everybody Hates" Rock
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
and still
Chris "And you know this Maaan!!" Tucker
And Finally
Forrest Whitiker(newest oscar winner)
These above actors are the A-listers.
And Terrence is quickly getting there, Along with(at least I hope)Gabby Union, Sanaa Lathain, Anthony Mackey, Chiwetel Ejofor(spelling), Jennifer Hudson, Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson, Taraji p. Henson, to name a few, The former A-listers unfourtunatly(and I hope this doesn't fill up more) are Wesley Snipes(was once the busiest man in Hollywood) Cuba Gooding Jr.(man won an oscar and they still dont know what to do with him) Sinbad(very funny man I hate he's on this list) Omar Epps(He was quickly getting there) Whoopi Goldberg(can't explain that one, she won an oscar as well) to name a few I hope the all come back.
The reason I named theese particular folkes(The present already A-listers), Because if I am not mistaking an A-lister (and read carfully before I am corrected) are people who has conquerd(spelling) Hollywood so much that they are most likely to have the leading, or biggest parts in the big budget, mainstreem movies; along side their caucasion peers, or by themselves these people do fit that bill. In other words it's about what Hollywood powers-that-be see as A-listers.(Like I said read carefully and correct me If I am wrong).

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wow, your post absolutely rules my post...

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I agree except...Nick Cannon?

The reason I named theese particular folkes(The present already A-listers), Because if I am not mistaking an A-lister (and read carfully before I am corrected) are people who has conquerd(spelling) Hollywood so much that they are most likely to have the leading, or biggest parts in the big budget, mainstreem movies; along side their caucasion peers, or by themselves these people do fit that bill. In other words it's about what Hollywood powers-that-be see as A-listers.(Like I said read carefully and correct me If I am wrong).


I agree and that's why I question Nick Cannon. I can't remember him having a lead in a movie that was big budget or mainstream. I'm not hating on him, but Terrance Howard got an Oscar nomination for Hustle & Flow. I don't think Nick Cannon has even been to the Oscars.

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dont take this racist, but does A-list refer to african-american actors?

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Well Will Smith is THE most famous movie star on the planet.

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I don't know if that's actually true. I like Will Smith a lot, and for the most part his movies are very good - or at least his part in an ensemble is very good (ie., Independence Day), but IMO I'd have to say Tom Hanks is the biggest and most famous "movie star" there is.

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Yep
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It's always been almost impossible to decide who is "the" A-List actor in all of hollywood, well for the men anyway. So people normally do the race thing to make it easier, (eg. if you're black maybe Denzel Washington, if you're white..maybe Tom Hanks), but for the women...Meryl Streep. It's like we don't evne think twice about it. -_-.

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I agree with you Nick Cannon is the only one out of place. Nowhere should he be on the same list as any of them.

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Very interesting list. I'm sure you are correct with your judgement as far as "bankablity at the box office" But how many are truly "GREAT ACTORS"? Of course everyone has opionons, these are simply mine.
The A-listers if I am not mistaking are
Jamie (I'll Rock Yo' World) Foxx - o.k agree - Ray was Fantastic
Denzel(Washington that is), - Great choice of course
Will "Big Willy" Smith, -no Denzel at drama, but still A-list material
Samuel Leroy Jackson (Bad Mutha Fu...) - Love him but, I'm afraid "Snakes" might be his ruin.
Laurence "Larry" Fishburne, - Great actor, could use better parts lately.
Eddie(Charlie's bro)Murphy, -Has-been
Martin "Mar aan" Lawrence, Never-was
Hallie "Beautiful" Berry., - Cute, acting is weak
Beyonce "Bootylicius" Knowles - Seems to me to have a very limited range
The Queen(Latifah that is), - see above comment- Too many "dumb" comedys
The Wayans Brothers - A-list comedy (not really fair, they should be listed as indiviuals. some are better than others)
Ice Cube(Coolest dude in the Wood), eh, male Queen Latifah?
Cedric "Ceddy Bear" The Entertainer, - Back to stand-up
Bernie "Who ya wit?!!" Mac, Good t.v show, stand-up. Haven't seen a movie he could carry.
The Don(Cheadle that is) -Great Actor, Best actor oscar future
"slick" Nick Cannon - ???
Morgan "Easy Reader" Freeman - Love him, Needs better parts
James Todd Smith AKA L.L. Cool J - Stick to Rap
Chris "Not Everybody Hates" Rock - Stick to stand-up
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson - ???
and still
Chris "And you know this Maaan!!" Tucker - Funny guy. No acting range seen.
And Finally
Forrest Whitiker(newest oscar winner) Well deserved Oscar winner!
I'll add Mos Def as a possible up and comer. he was the only bright spot in "16 Blocks" a crappy Bruce Willis movie, but he showed some good acting chops in my humble opinon. You just have to get past that nasil voice of his.
I count maybe 6 actors on your list that I truly belive to be "A-list" or "Great actors" (my definintion, please don't give me grief about the definition). But to be fair, my list of white A-list actors is even smaller - Bobby De Niro, Al Pacino, are getting well past prime,even Hanks hasn't had a great roll for some time. I'd never been a fan of Leo DiCaprio , but I must say he won me over with his roll in the Departed. can't think of too many others. (Of course it is after 3am...zzzzz)
F.Y.I. the Cruise's, Clooney's, Willis's etc. that get the big hollywoood movies are NOT A-list in my book. And great female actresses are harder to find than hens teeth.
Sadly, great acting has become a lost art

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Out of those mentioned, here's my breakdown...

Definite A-listers: Jamie Foxx, Denzel Washington, Will Smith, Samuel L., Forest Whitaker, maybe Halle Berry, Eddie Murphy (though he's slipped a little recently) and I'll go ahead and throw Don Cheadle on there. (He has the lowest bankability of those, but one of the better actors).

Now for the rest...

Terrence Howard (if he's not "A-list" he's probably the closest/best of those left off)
Laurence Fishburne (maybe an A-)
Martin Lawrence (he might slowly be losing it)
The Wayans Bros. (movies like White Chicks and Little Man killed that)
Beyonce (getting there)
Queen Latifah (not quite)
Ice Cube (last couple movies have tanked - XXX 2, etc.)
Cedric (I like him, but wouldn't call him A-list)
same goes for Bernie Mac
Morgan Freeman (maybe getting too old for the A-list, still a legend though)
Chris Rock (I'd call him B+ list)
LL Cool J (definitely one of the better rapper-turned-actors, but A-list...?)
Nick Cannon (nope)
Chris Tucker (has to play more than one character per decade)
The Rock (his box office isn't that great i.e. Walking Tall, Doom, etc.)

And had Dave Chappelle not pulled his disappearing act, he'd probably be up there. That's my take for what it's worth.

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Have little no problem with what you said except for the getting old part of Morgan Freeman, what the hell that has to do with acting. We need more older veteran actors, who are good, that the essential part, that they are good, damn whetther the age is 50 and older, thats good, it shows they lasted in the industry. Dont ever make age a factor unles it is an older man playing a role for a younger actor.

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Are you serious??? This is a list of some of the worst actors I have ever seen...
Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson, The Rock, Chris Tucker, Ice Cube, The Wayans Brothers???

None of these actors are even close, they're all in terrible popcorn movies, moneymakers, but definitely not top dollar, or A-list.
Its sad that you are comparing the jokes I just mentioned to actual actors like Denzel, Forrest, Cheadle, Freeman, and Howard.
Take Denzel and Hallie Barry out of your list and you could probably get away with substituting any of the other actors for each other, without commanding more money, therefore I can't see how you are calling these people A-list.
For example, if we are making a new movie and we need to fill our main character with one of your list's actors, Denzel would be the obvious A-lister, easily the most expensive, with maybe only (from your list) Will Smith and Jamie Foxx close behind.

Hahahaha, I still cant get over your "A-listers"... LL Cool J, Nick Cannon, Gabrielle Union, Beyonce, Cedric The Entertainer, Martin!?!?!? Hahahaha!

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Well sense my definition of A-List is so incorrect, what is an An A-Lister? And proove me wrong?

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Will Smith is on the A+ list. That is not a joke.

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I think you left some out.
I think these are A-listed:
Wesley Snipes
Cuba Gooding Jr.
Danny Glover (he might be too old)

EDIT: Just saw you already wrote wesley snipes and cuba gooding so nvm.

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This concept is kind of confusing because A list as in big budget movie and B actor as in low budget film does not automatically mean that one film is artistically better than the other. I am sure that there are some A lsiters that always make big sci fi stuff, but it doesn't strike the same nerve as a gritty actor who for years does character type roles that stay with our memories. It is ashamed that by the name, A and B indicate that one is better which is not the case. I'd be curious to see how white actors fare with regard to which are A lsiters and which are not. The compiled list is kind of diverse making it harder for me to get a handle of. It would seem transient too, meaning that Cheadle might be A list so long as there is an Oceans movie, but as he gets into artsy films which are arguably better but only seen by a handful of people, he might fall to a b list level ? I don't know. What about old school ? Is James Earl Jones a former A lister ? Cicely Tyson A list because of her body of work ?

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u need to take these fools off this list:

Beyonce:can sing but my pet fish shoes more emotion than her in a movie
LL Cool J: sexy but no
The Wayans Brothers:tired of their a sses
Nick Cannon:what the hell?



Chris Tucker,s been gon for a while beuz he was demanding insane amounts of money so I don't know if I would consider him a-list. If he would have stuck around he would be one for sure. But I m not gonna take him off the list cuz I love him.



People u may have forgotten because you are too busy putting people like Beyonce on the list are:

Angela Bassett-my fave
Gabrielle Union- if Beyonces on the list, she should be too
Vivica A. Fox- read the above
and others that I dont feel like mentioning

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ejd365, your list is very wrong!

Beyonce is not an A-list actress. Singer, yes, but not actress

Wayans Brothers?!?!?!? They are not A-list

Cedric the Entertainer?!?!? You must be smoking something real good

Nick Cannon....

Just cause they make movies doesn't mean they are good movies or successful.

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I like how you refer to Eddie Murphy like a footnote to his brother Charlie LOL

now that I think about it, Charlie has made me laugh alot more than Eddie.

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that alphabet list of how to categorize celebrities is just media made and people latch onto it as truth.


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Great list but there are 2 actors who might be considered close to the A list but not quite there yet-Chiwetel Ejiofor(Inside Man) and Djimon Hounsou (Amestad and Blood Diamond). Maybe you forgot about them because they are not Americans but these are 2 great actors who've been in big productions.

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A List actors need to be in one or two BIG titles in a leading role each year, so how can you class half of the actors that are in your list as A List?

i'd agree with Don Cheadle, Denzel Washington, Will Smith and Samuel L Jackson they are certainly A List Actors. Martin Lawrence slipped out of that list a long time ago, he hasnt had a good flick in years.

half of the actors on that list were never in the A List.

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Good Films don't really matter when you consider an actor to be A-List. Martin Lawrence may not have had a good movie in years, but Big Momma's House 2 is considered a hit and Wild Hogs made $167 million and is still the 5th highest grossing movie this year. I think Martin Lawrence can still open a movie and would be considered A-List.

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The Rock is not African-American. His heritage is primarily Samoan. Samoa is not in Africa.

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Queen Latifah is an A-list actress!!


Beyonce Knowles is no wear near it! She was snubbed at the Golden Globes and the Oscars for a reason. She is all image.

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I really couldn't care less of what the system says:
Bottom line - If you haven't been the lead in a successful movie, you're not A-List. I don't think Taxi was especially successful.

Don't misunderstand me, I think she's a good actress, but not A-List yet.

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I agree with the obvious A-listers, but I definitely think Djimon Hounsou is an up-and-coming actor, and definitely has potential for the A-List. He was great in Gladiator and Blood Diamond. Those were both with two pretty well-known A-List actors in Russel Crowe and Leo DiCaprio. But for the most part (with the exception of Nick Cannon) I agree with your list.

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Ok. I rarely chime in on these subjects but, as usual, the most bankable actors are not always the best. Everyone seem to forget to mention probably one of the top 10 actors working today- Jeffrey Wright. I don't mean "black actor" (seems most people feel the need to catagorize by race) simply best actor. Just read the commentary on his imdb page. OR better yet see his movies. He's stared with or been in film by or with Woody Allen, Kenneth Branaugh, Denzel washington, Ang Lee, Michael Mann, George Clooney, Nicole Kidman, Meryl Streep, hellen MirrenM. Night Shamalayna Dennis Hopper, Gary Oldman, Benacio Del Toto, Cristopher Walken, Willem Defoe, James Spader, Meryl Streep, hellen Mirren. He's on a short list of my favorite actors (Gary Oldman, Christian Bale (whom he's starred with), Paul Giamatti (whom he's also starred with) and Ryan Gosling)d

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Do your research---he's both black and Samoan---read his bio.

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He's getting there...he's not A-list yet, but he's definitely getting there.

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The whole A-List thing is pretty annoying as it is. The Hollywood types sure can't get enough of themselves. Of course that seems to be because our viewing audience cant get enough of them either. But to address the post ,,, hmmm no I wouldn't say Howard is inside the definition of an A list actor. Where he commands massive salaries in the 10 to 30 mil a movie range and all his films are guarenteed to make huge cash. As far as the posters list of black A listers it would probably be wittled down to Will Smith, Denzel, Halle Berry, Morgan Freeman. I suppose Jaime Fox too. Some good actors on the list who do multiple roles and always show up a great performance though. Howard as one , Elijafor, Hounjou and such. Comedies are not my thing so I'm biased in the fact that Cedric and Lawerance just kinda annoy me. Murphy and Glover were there, but Eddies act is pretty tired, his cartoon voices do well but junk like Norbit is unwatchable. Glover, I dunno, seems like he is semi-retired or something. He owns a place on my all time favorite contemprary actors list though.

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If you have to ask, then its a no.

This shark, swallow you whole.

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TERENCE HOWARD IS ABSOLUTELY "A-ALPHA" LIST!!!

Don't sweat the small stuff

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