Butterfly effect


I liked the movie, but frankly, it reminded me very much of The Butterfly Effect which i think came out stronger (probably with a bigger budget too). The story is quite the same and the ending almost identical if you change NYC street with a bus and the succesfull business woman by punk girl.

I couldn't help but compare both movies and if i wouldn't know better, i would say it's a rip-off. Too bad, since it was good enough to keep me watching through to the end.

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In all honesty I started writing Fetching Cody in 1999, a full 5 years before Butterfly Effect came out. The theme of self sacrifice isn't all that new - I was actually inspired in part by Antigone. I'd like to believe that Fetching Cody's humor and central love story are only two reasons to see it. Not to mention Sarah Lind and Jay Baruchel's performance.

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In all honesty I started writing Fetching Cody in 1999, a full 5 years before Butterfly Effect came out. The theme of self sacrifice isn't all that new - I was actually inspired in part by Antigone. I'd like to believe that Fetching Cody's humor and central love story are only two reasons to see it. Not to mention Sarah Lind and Jay Baruchel's performance.
AND, what great performances they are!!! Hey Dave-a-roo, do tell us more here??? Inquiring minds want to know, eh?

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In all honesty I started writing Fetching Cody in 1999, a full 5 years before Butterfly Effect came out. The theme of self sacrifice isn't all that new - I was actually inspired in part by Antigone. I'd like to believe that Fetching Cody's humor and central love story are only two reasons to see it. Not to mention Sarah Lind and Jay Baruchel's performance.
That is none-other then FC's wr/dir, David Ray!!!! Antigone inspired, eh? Do tell us more Dave-a-roooo!!! I for one LOVE Sarah Lind and Jay Baruchel's performances. They are both such a class act, and will be amazin' in Hollywood - mark my words folks!!!! Viddy well then....

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I really liked that this movie, it was clever. It did remind me of the butterfly effect though.

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Unfortunately I'd have to agree that the similarities between this and Butterfly Effect are just too coincidental. BUT I really did enjoy this film! I'm a bit biased as I'm a huge Baruchel fan but similarities aside, this movie was very touching and Jay and Sarah were great. It was also nice to see some of Canada even if it wasn't the nicer areas. I think fordstowel summed it up for me as well.

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So you did not really think about which time-travel theorie you use, did you?
I really would want to know if he really traveled trough time or if it was just a bad trip. But if he did, why did only so little of his actions had any effects on the present?

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Lots of movies have the same basic storyline (there just aren't enough stories to tell). But i think this one differs/improves upon the concept from the Ashton-pretty-boy Kutcher vehicle.
1. Its funny- it knows time travel is a bit silly and plays that up. ("Take me to detox"-- I swear sprite came out my nose)
2. Its got more heart- I don't know how to better explain this, it just does.
3. The Lead- he's a better actor
4. Vancouver- You couldn't just set it in New York. I live ten minutes from where this was filmed and go down Hastings on the bus everyday. This movie captures something about this city and the downtown eastside without being didactic or preachy.Its one of the reasons I loved this film.

This movie may be similar, but to me it is far superior, despite the fact that it was made with less money and less star-power.

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i agree with most of fordstowel's points (i even took the same bus route to burnaby every day), although personally it didn't make me think of _butterfly_effect_ any more than it made me think of _back_to_the_future_. when i saw butterfly_effect i promplty forgot it. it was interesting but not memorable or good. _fetching_cody_ is very memorable and one of the better movies i've seen this year. also, it's nice to see a film that is actually set in vancouver instead of shot in vancouver and pretending to be new york, or wherever.

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There's so many great movies that capture the "realism" of the Downtown Eastside, "On the Corner" and "Fix: Story of An Addcited City" spring to mind, however, I wanted to make one that tried to communicate the inner landscape of experience. A moment that evoked this for me was when I was volunteering for VANDU and we came across a beautiful young woman who opened her purse to exchange needles, coming down the stairs of a run down flop house, and a stuffed teddy bear fell out. She couldn't have been a day over fifteen. There is laughter and wonder there, and that was the world I wanted explore. It's a fairy tale in a way, one that tries to show that beauty exists everywhere, despite - and maybe because of - the tragedy of the circumstances.

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Good call. Fix is amazing. In a weird way, Fetching Cody isn't about the Downtown Eastside at all, it's about someone falling deeper in love. Then there's a time machine. You can't overlook the time machine.

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Then there's a time machine. You can't overlook the time machine. - FC's wr/dir David Ray folks!!!!
Oh, but what a time machine it is Dave-a-rooooo!!!!! I love to describe it as, "a time machine disguised as Archie Bunker's armchair!" Loved those christmas lights to. Such a coooooooool machine. Makes me think of The Simpsons time machine episode here? Remember? I'll let that linder for now. OK? Viddy well....

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In the Butterfly effect I didn't really care whether or not the main charcters got together in the end or not, but in this movie I wanted him to save her and be with her SO bad.

WAY better movie than the butterfly effect.

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"WAY better movie than the butterfly effect" ditto
"but in this movie I wanted him to save her and be with her SO bad" ditto
You took the words right out of my mouth. But really, he was no good for her.

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fetching_cody_ is very memorable and one of the better movies i've seen this year. also, it's nice to see a film that is actually set in vancouver instead of shot in vancouver and pretending to be new york, or wherever.
Well put magicsock, I agree with you, FC is one of dee best films of dee year!!!! Vancity looking like NYC or elsewhere, is such a syndrome of dee Canadian film scene, nowhere more so then right here in Toronto!!!! Don't you just hate it? But, I guess it does put food on dee table. It would be great if dee gov't would put more money into financing local homegrown filmmakers, rather then subsidising hollywood flic's up here. It's GREAT that David Ray did get some of that gov't money for his amazin' flic FC!!!!!!!!!!! Viddy well then....

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Then there's a time machine. You can't overlook the time machine.
I can't repeat that often enough. Big-time SpFX here folks - those blinding lights, swishes'n'swirls, out-of-focus timelines - just loved it. A must see time machine. Bring a cold brewsky downtown on dee Eastside if you want to know more here. OK? Viddy well until then...

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OHHHHHHH, please don't forget dee TIME MACHINE... OK!!!!
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Gshanger You seem to know every thing about Stanley Kubrick. Do you mind if I ask you a few questions?

Have you seen Fear and Desire? What is your honest opinion of it? Will it ever get released?

Have you read the Phantom Blupper? Does it work? it sounds a little far fetched to me.

Have you or are you really making a film about the making of Full Metal Jacket? If so can I see it?

Did Kubrick's daughter film a making off for Full Metal Jacket like the one she did for the Shining?

Do you see the Shining as a horor film? I see it as a comedy, I think Kubrick was taking the piss.

Do any deleted scenes exist for any of his films? Do you know of any for Full Metal.

Did Stanley Kubrick cheat on his wife or is this bull?

Thanks.


"I have experienced violence, but nothing has hurt me as much as being in love" SAM PECKINPAH

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Gshanger!!! You seem to know everything about Stanley Kubrick. Do you mind if I ask you a few questions?

1. Have you seen Fear and Desire? What is your honest opinion of it? Will it ever get released?
2. Have you read the Phantom Blooper? Does it work? It sounds a little far-fetched to me.
3. Have you, or are you really making a film about the making-of Full Metal Jacket? If so, can I see it?
4. Did Kubrick's daughter film a making-of for Full Metal Jacket, like the one she did for The Shining?
5. Do you see The Shining as a horor film? I see it as a comedy, I think Kubrick was taking the piss.
6. Do any deleted scenes exist for any of his films? Do you know of any for Full Metal?
7. Did Stanley Kubrick cheat on his wife, or is this bull?
1. Yes! Love it! No, never-ever!!!

2. No, it's hard to find, but, I will read it soon. Hasford is a genius, so I know it will work!!! It's a novel, "far-fetched" doesn't apply here - have a look for yourself:
Gustav Hasford's Vietman Trilogy

The Short-Timers (1979) - Hasford always nicknamed his book Shorty & it became FMJ
Phantom Blooper (1990)
Exit Wounds (unpublished/possible title) - "The story involved Private Joker taking a job as a reporter in Los Angeles in the years after the war."
Phantom Blooper:

"This book was actually completed before Full Metal Jacket was released in 1987, but for some reason not published by Bantam until 1990, at which time Gus put out a press release, wildy attacking his editor. An excerpt of the novel was printed in the January 1990 issue of Playboy. It is a more powerful, more personal story than The Short-Timers, in its description of life among the Viet Cong and how that affects Private Joker. If The Short-Timers details the making of an American solider, this book shows the unmaking. In Hasford's original draft, Joker's conversion was so complete that he became an active VC, going out and killing his fellow Marines. As the inside cover says, "Here is another major novel of the Viet Nam experience from one of its most startlingly able chroniclers... Joker's personal odyssey exposes a searingly honest, tragic, and brutal truth about the war that damned a generation and the betrayal that scarred us all." This was supposed to be the second volume of Gus's Viet Nam trilogy, but the final novel was never finished. The Phantom Blooper is currently out of print, but you can download the entire text right here!" -from: http://www.gustavhasford.com/phantom.html

PRESS RELEASE: http://www.gustavhasford.com/press.htm
3. Yes, I'm in dee research phase now. It's called, Shorty! - it's about dee life story of Gustav Hasford, who more than any other novelist, treated Kubrick with dee most disdain (Stephen King is a distant-second). Yes, you can see it...

4. No! Vivian Kubrick (http://imdb.com/name/nm0473588/) was FMJ's music composer, but she used dee pseudonym, Abigail Mead (btw, she is in FMJ (uncredited; she is the "News Camera Operator at Mass Grave") -&- she also co-composed dee music for The Mao Game (Joshua John Miller, 1999: http://imdb.com/title/tt0198715/)

5. An awe-inspiring horror flic, that actually scared the bah-jesus out of it's audience

6. Yes & NO: if they exist, and they do, we will never see them!!! None for FMJ

7. This is an absurd question????

Viddy well, Stanley_Kubrick_2. Viddy well....

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I think the explanation for time travel in the Butterfly Effect was stronger. I like the ending better in Fetching Cody (him getting himself arrested). I like the character much better in Fetching Cody. Ashton Kutcher is not hard to look at but he is such a bad actor.

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A explaination for time travel is sorta like an excuse why you can't come in to work today. It's got to be functional, but it's completely perfunctory. It's got nothing to do with what you're trying to accomplish, it's just something you've got to invent to reach the real goals.

I liked the way it was handled. If they had gone into any explaination, it would have detracted from the movie. Instead they "hung a lantern on it", made it so obviously and absurdly a device that you just accept it, like everyone in the movie does. If you didn't know what kind of movie to expect, the chair sure clues you in.

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i just read your board, i saw the butterfly effect when it came out in theatres and i thought it was the best movie i ever saw. but i was high at the time. then i saw it again and realized it wasnt that good. i saw fetching cody today and i thought it was great. it was charming and funny. i noticed that it was similar to the butterfly effect as well. where they spent millions of dollars making a movie that didnt nowhere near have the same effect on me as fetching cody which was made with way less money. plus its canadian. way to go.

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I found this movie alot more interesting than the butterfly effect.
this film comes across more sincere if that makes sense.

Also it was interesting because the characters were already in a dark place.

As opposed to the butterfly effect, everyone seemed fine (more or less) untill he started going back in time.

I guess the only thing that bothered me was the chair being the object that allowed him to go back, but in saying that i cant think of anything else i would have preferred more.

Formerly known as wiccan_dude666

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And, don't forget dee SIMPSONS Halloween version of both BE & FC. Remember? Homer with dee time machine. NOT DEE VERSION OF DEE FLY. But dee other one. Remember? Viddy well then...

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are you people high? there is nothing appealing about this movie. the acting was horrible. my friend conned me into watching this. im still pissed. this is also a guy that spent a week downloading dude wheres my car in 1080p. a few of us hate it so bad we call it "felching cody" jokingly. of course this is just my opinion. i did manage to watch the whole thing.

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I saw this in On Demand last night and thought about Butterfly Effect. I then realized that just because FC came out after BE, it doesn't relate to when FC was filmed. As David Ray has posted, he started writing FC in the late '90s. I loved seeing David Ray post here. It shows how you never know who may be reading, which is why people should remember to be nice and provide constructive criticism, not insults.

I enjoyed FC. To me, it was a tragic comedy. I laughed when Art showed up in Cody's gym class. Sure, both FC and BE involve time travel and trying to rewrite the past, but these are two very different films. I don't want to post spoilers, but the results of Art's time travel are very different compared to the trips Kutcher's character made in BE.

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