I mean honestly, wtf...it takes place in New York City...doesn't ANYONE have a friggin gun they can use? It kept bothering me throughout the whole movie...like I thought SOMEONE would have one.
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That is also what made the movie idiotic! Some guy running around using his FISTS??? How stupid can you get?? I don't care if it WAS set in New York City.
I would be busting out a window of a gun store and getting all the guns and ammo I could carry, but the idiotic writers of THIS stupid nonsense think that people would be using regular hand tools? Sorry, but that is very very stupid.
Some would say yeah, but it is illegal to carry a firearm in NYC without a permit HELLO???? A PERMIT WOULD NOT MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE WHEN A TOWN IS UNDER MARTIAL LAW ANYWAY!!
So WHY they didn't have anyone thinking of getting a gun to defend themselves with also makes the writers look totally stupid.
well it was established that he used to be a boxer and was keeping form, so fists were his best weapon, and he used it well.
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You don't have to reload your fists.
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Come on, Donny, they were threatening castration. Are we gonna split hairs here?
If you don't know a thing about guns, that would be very difficult. You need to find a gun you can handle. If you've never used one and you pick up something like a magnum, you're going to break something...on you. The kick is going to screw you up.
Then you need to find the proper ammo for that gun. Don't screw up. You don't have much time to do it either. The creatures are EVERYWHERE. Not to mention the rather RESOUNDING noise of a gun going off in a now deserted city will be like ringing a dinner bell. That's just plain stupid.
On the other hand, using your hands is moronic too. ANYTHING would work. That chick found that wrench. That would have worked nicely. In the hands of someone like Clutch, I imagine it would take about...two or three blows to reduce the human skull to mush. Hell, if you have to, break the leg off a chair. Anything that keeps their mouths away from your body is a good idea.
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Busting into a gun shop is a fantasy. I dreamed about doing this in grade school, after watching The Day After (before zombies gave me something real to worry about!).
Google Maps says there are no gun shops in Manhattan above Central Park. I say that's about right. I don't think that's really an option. At what point in the movie would you have headed downtown or over to the next borough looking for a gun shop? Seems like a huge risk anyway - likely to get killed on the way there as anything else.
I don't think there are that many guns about NYC. Manhattan especially. Urban squalor does not equal guns under every bar and/or mattress. Gun control is really stringent in Manhattan, its been that way for a long time, and the gun culture just isn't really there.
Yeah I gotta say, I've lived in NYC for the last 6 years and the stereotypes of Manhattan just aren't true these days. I am very familiar with the area that this took place in and I have never seen a gun shop in Manhattan ever, especially not in the lower east side where the story takes place. Manhattan is really a very safe place to live these days, sure there are a few areas way uptown, certain areas of Harlem, etc.. but Giulliani put an end to most crime in NYC. He also made it a real pain in the a$$ if you get caught public urinating or having an open container but that's another story..
I think this movie is very underrated.
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I happen to agree somewhat, I'd have loved having just one gun towards the end of the movie. I mean it seemed the most of them they had to deal with at a single time was perhaps 6-7, but that was probably due to budgetary concerns.
But they never had a chance to go get any guns. Other than, perhaps, one derelict cop car that I saw, they were running around and hiding the entire movie. Provided they could have gotten in the cop car without making any noise, gotten the keys, and unhooked the shotgun or popped the trunk to get some guns, sure they might have had an opportunity.
So what's next? A gun store of course!
So you go ahead and "Bust" into a gun shop. Firstly, I hope you have a truck with a *beep* TON of horsepower, because any gun shop (Or really any store at all in Manhattan or New York itself) has barred windows, and has to be protected from break-ins in a special way BY LAW.
So let's say you get lucky. You get into the gun store. It's NOT completely looted out, you are able to get some guns.
There is no more traffic in the city, no more people making ambient noise, no more sirens, nothing. You see a zombie, you smile to yourself, level your shotgun and you fire. Boom. Dead Zombie.
Now EVERY SINGLE ZOMBIE within a mile radius hears your gunshot and starts running for you. Congrats, you're dead.
I can hear you already "But I'd grab a silencer!" This isn't a video game. Silencers are rare, especially for civilians to get their hands on. I live in Florida, one of the most gun-friendly states in the country and in order to get one you have to have a special permit that is VERY hard to come by.
The whole "I'd loot a gun store and start mowing people down!" fantasy is just that, a fantasy. People like you would be dead before you even figured out how to get IN a gun store/pawn shop.
What they SHOULD have done was just fashion some weapons and held their own on the roof. The roof had one entrance, one door, and it looked sturdy. They could have made a canopy out of sheets and blankets so it wouldn't get too hot, transfer their supplies to the roof, and waited it out.
Followup:
Was snooping around IMDB yesterday, reading old threads, and found this item on the NYT today, about the gun shops in New York.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/30/nyregion/30critic.html?nl=todayshead lines&emc=tha29
Realistically Guns are outlawed in the city. You can't even own a BB gun.
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Just reiterating what some other folks have said--I also live in New York City. As far as I know there are NO gun shops in the city. The city has some of the more restrictive gun laws in the country. We're not talking about Texas. Sure, some folks have guns, but it's entirely plausible that no one in a building like the one featured in the film would own a gun.
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As far as I can tell there are only three businesses that sell firearms on Manhatten Island. Now the famous John Jovino gunshop is actually located in Little Italy (where I believe the movie is set), but I tend to agree with those who say that it would probably be looted by the time the characters got to it. Also from what I know about NYC's gun-laws I would imagine the gunshops in NYC (there are more in the other boroughs according to Google)are required to have some pretty hefty physical security such as steel bars on the windows, high security doors and I bet they have to keep the firearms locked up in a vault when not open for business. The gun culture is not very strong in the Big Apple. Now here in my state (Idaho) there are probably enough guns to give all the Idaho residents (1.6 million) at least two or maybe three guns each. the bullets would be flying fast and furious in Idaho. I'm only being half facetious.
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