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What was the deal with that mall?

posted 15 years ago by BitterAsHell
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When they walk into that mall to talk to the pedophiliac voyeur, the sign says that girls under 18 must be accompanied by a parent. Huh? What kind of place was that?

And why didn't the sign just say PEOPLE under the age of 18? Was it a females-only mall? Is that even legal? And isn't it kind of strange that a heterosexual pedophile would be hanging out in a place where girls have to be OVER 18 to get in? I would've thought that an under-18 place be more his scene.

[–] alex_123 15 years ago

That didn't make sense to me at all, but is it a US thing? They do have curfews there for teens and stuff, so maybe the mall has an over 18 because of a high child predator rate or something? Or maybe the pedophile knows that girls will ignore the sign and go to the mall anyways?

[–] BitterAsHell 15 years ago

Yeah, I hadn't thought of it as being like a curfew, makes sense maybe. But still. A GENDER-SPECIFIC over-18 policy? I've never heard of anything like that anywhere.

[–] Judimex 15 years ago

I thought there was a lot of things in this film that made no sense.
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[–] the_man2006 15 years ago

I've never heard of a mall setting restrictions like that, but I'm sure it's been done. If you study patterns of crime, specifically rapes and murders, (Criminology) or even Sociology and Psychology. It is believed that white males in their 20's and 30's are responsible for most of the serial rapes and homosides. Atleast that is the popular belief among people, but Television has a lot to do with making people believe men are the most responsible for it. However, there really is no awnser to who is responsible for it. Males, females, white, black, there really is no awnser because you can't catch all of the serial rapists and people who commit homicides. I think most people believe serial rapists, etc. can be rehabilitated, but it's very hard to say. I doubt if they can be. If they are released back into society, it's like placing someone in a room with candy when they love candy. Chances are they will eat the candy. No one has the awnser.

You can look at crime statistics throughout the United States on the FBI's website. There are a couple reports released every year that show the # of violent crimes commited. One of the reports is called the UCR. However, I don't think there are yearly studies published about every crime in the world. Also the reports only show what is reported, which is deceiving because it happens very often and never gets reported.

The behavior displayed is normally refered to as deviance. There are several beliefs of scientists that try to find the real awnser to criminal activity. The Differential Association Theory which believes that all criminal behavior is learned. The Strain- Theory that states that society may be the cause of criminal behavior, and etc. There havent been many studies on if a criminal mentality can be passed down through genetics.

I find it very interesting watching movies when they talk about the characteristics of crime, etc. Sigmund Freud's belief of the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego is also talked about in the film. Public Life, private life, and secret life. Public life is what everyone sees, private life is what your family and closest friends know, and secret life is something only you know yourself or maybe the closest person to you. As crazy as people think Sigmond Freud was for believing everything is related to sex in a way, his studies have been very influential in the educational system.

[–] Promontorium 12 years ago

Nothing you write past the first sentence has anything at all do with anything. Anyone who read it is now dumber for having tried. You receive no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

No one's heard of it, because it's never been done. Lawsuit happy "equal opportunity" nazis would shoot down the "make people do what's best for them" nazis by sheer vigilance and as far as the courts are concerned you can't even stop a 16 year old girl from going into a men's room, let alone a mall.

[–] always_keep_fighting 15 years ago

I'm an American...Have been to quite a few large cities with malls, and have never seen anything like this one. My husband has traveled a lot more than I have, and neither has he. I'd love to know if there's a real mall or shopping center that has this particular caveat posted outside.
And is it just me, or did that guy stick out like a sore thumb? Seems like Security would have been on him pretty quickly. Weird store/mall.
the man2006, I do not think that rapists/molesters/serial killers can be rehabilitated, and to be very honest, I think that the resources such as time, money (taxpayer money), psychiatric and medical monitoring, etc. would be much better used in other areas. They are not worth it. Let the victims and their families get that help instead.

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[–] Fleur_de_lis 14 years ago

The film mentions that the guy liked to shop there for victims. So I assume that the policy was in response to prior incidents.

I grew up in a place where one of the nicer major malls adopted that policy, but without the gender discrimination element. You could not enter the mall unless you were with a parent, if you were under 18.

The reason for this was that when the goth scene exploded in the 90s, the goth kids (and later the hip hop/gangbanger wannabees) in town took over the mall.

They had no hangout and started going to this mall in huge numbers and just walking around all day. Literally, for an entire day. During the week, they were obviously kids who should have been in school. There was also certainly a class element since it was a wealthy part of town and I suspect that the kids were mostly from public schools across town.

I doubt that they were big spenders, except for the food vendors, and for the stores they created a shoplifting problem. They could grab something and run out into a hallway of people who looked and dressed like them, particularly the goths in heavy makeup who would be unrecognizable. They would also walk around in large groups so that you could barely pass them in the hallways. It made it uncomfortable for paying customers, so the mall put a stop to it.

[–] Barbiegirl676 13 years ago

I don't know about the gender discrimination, but last time I went to Mall of America in Minnesota (about 3-4 years ago), after a certain time (6 pm, I think) anyone under 16 or 18 had to be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian. I remember this because it caused a problem with my friend whose brother was 13 at the time. Even though my friend and I were over 21, he was not allowed to stay in the mall.

I remember the security guard said he could sit in the parking lot while we shopped - at which point I questioned why they even had the curfew. They claimed it was because of rowdy teenagers and gang problems, but then why would the solution be leaving said rowdy teenagers in the parking garage where there is almost no supervision? It worked out in the end for us though - another friend took him to a movie while we finished up.