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Anyone else dissapointed in the ending? *SPOILERS*


So I totally expected Arthur to survive the explosion. But after that the ending SUCKS! I was hoping Arthur would confront Steve or something. But having him set a trap and kill him with the car was lame.

This is essentially a revenge movie. While neither of these characters are "white hat" heroes, Steve is clearly the less evil of them (His father was murdered and he is out for revenge). Having Arthur get away is fine. But having him kill the son for trying to get his final revenge completely deflates the climax of the movie, which revolved around avenging steve's fathers murder. Don't make a revenge movie and then kill the avenger.

That aside I really like both statham and foster in this flick.

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I thought the movie was solid, beginning to end.

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That is why you watch the original movie first, before you watch the remake.

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OP, unfortunately modern audiences wouldn't understand moral complexity. They just assume since Statham is the Transporter that he's the good guy.

would've loved a scene where Arthur is forced to face the issue of killing Steve who deserves his revenge on Arthur

There is no such thing as a 'hard PG-13'.

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the film was stupid period, let me give a VERY quick review and my overal thoughts of the film then comment on the OP's valid points

pointless film don't watch unless you're bored, the script is predictable and too desperate to try to make twists in the movie

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asphyxiated scene was lame and not believable in a 2011 situation where people can test if a person died before rehung. Even in the 70s they knew this (maybe lazier cop work but they had the technology if you watch tv shows like QUINCY M.E)

jason killed a innocent man then the son which is not neceesary pointless deaths all over the film. He didn't even bother to ask his mentor anything i.e why? or his story, just a dog payed to do what he does.

the film felt like a cheap ride to show action and sex scenes, the sex was out of the blue and finished as quick as it started


ok now for the OP's thoughts. Stratham was painted as a nice person, laughing and smiling and giving the hooker a dog, but in the end his a dangerous dog, A-hole if you will.

* first off killing the son who just wanted justice is bullsh*t
* second of all stratham must be more of a pr*ck because to have killed the son he must of planted and set everything up before hand, thus the story writer showing stratham noticing the gun was pointless. (not to mention no way he would known its the same gun WHILST its holsted...for all he knew it was just a big desert eagle pistol.

Unless he WANTED the son to find the gun so he placed it where the bags were so the selfish b*tch had an excuse to kill him.

* if stratham was about honor he'd let the son get justice and kill him, if he felt he didn't deserve to die, he could of at LEAST give the son the illusion of revenge. Yet stratham wouldn't even allow that, he had to kill him in the most cowardly way possible.

* FYI if i was the baddie I would've told foster about stratham whilst I was dying in the car, hoping to save my life, not egg two killers by saying F.U.

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McKenna didn't say anything because he knew it would
revenge him - and we wouldn't have a movie.

Why did he helped Steve in the case with the gunmen
in his house? He could have put a empty gun in the couch
to let him die. He didn't needed a second guy for the
revenge act. So, he was giving him a a chance.

The son (Steve) had numerous ways to play this, but he
decided to go the revenge route. If they would have left
the place together, Bishop would have returned to fix
the place up. The traps where in place he could get crossed.

The note in the car would also be a nice final reminder
to *anyone* who would steal it. He didn't wrote "Steve, if
you read this". He wrote "If you read this..."


No, the film had to much open questions and way to much
killings and stupid/constructed situations. And booms!!!

Story didn't match in details. But the main points where ok.

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The note in the car actually DID say
"Steve, if you're reading this, then you're dead!"

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I agree with most of what you say, but I still liked it :)

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They were not okay, please don't try to justify this tripe.

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I think there's a lot in the film you didn't understand on top of that. Lol at your comments about the 2011 situation....

First of all you watch WAY too much CSI. There is only one CSI lab for every 3 states in America last time I checked, these labs can only handle on average 3 to 5 cases in a YEAR. As it takes them that long to process evidence (and unlike the tv series they don't investigate and stuff...)

As such, do you really think police in America in 2011 would even bother wasting such valuable resources for a drug dealer and arms trader with known ties to terrorism?

Normal police will arrive on scene, see what it is and wont much care about what really happened. Sure they will investigate for possible struggle and posing. But its doubtful they will spend much time and resources in it. Only in tv series does this really happen.

As for the other comments, watch the movie again if you really must, but seriously theres a lot you didn't understand.

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You musta not been paying attention in class when they taught proper punctuation, correct usage of verb tense, where to begin and end paragraphs in prose, and avoidance of the use of both superlatives and an overabundance of laconic sentences.

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Did you really just go on a long rant about proper English and then misspell PAID?

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I agree. You can't paint Statham's character as a morally driven character, and then have him kill his mentor without even talking to him first. I also agree that he was too sharp to buy into the B.S. story he was told about his mentor being a traitor/whistleblower. The easiest fix for this, while still keeping the mentor dying is to have Statham isolate his mentor like he did in the movie, then confront his mentor for the his side of the story, but before he could say anything, have another hitman kill the mentor. This way Statham is compliant with the death of Ben Foster's father, allowing Ben Foster to have a reason to want revenge and thus possibly go after Statham depending on what he learns. Also it allows Statham to live in the end guilt-free b/c he truly wasn't the father's murderer. Ben Foster's character could've been impatient and not thorough in learning the full truth about how his father died and thus be somewhat responsible for his own fate if his actions in getting revenge against Statham ended in his own death. But the ending we have, Statham is an @$$hole, Ben Foster dies and no justice is served. Sucks.

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Not all movies have to end in a 1 hour fight with the "good guy" and "bad guy" like in movies such as the Matrix 3 or any other popular action movie :P

The ending of this movie was perfect and matched the character, the whole movie was about him killing people without anyone ever knowing he was there. His house was ALWAYS boobytrapped. Notice when he played the player he pushed the button to disable the trap? The trap was always there. The kid just played it without pushing the special button that they even showed Statham push.

The car boobytrap seems more like he placed that especially for the kid. As it had the note and everything. Though we don't know when he put the note and we don't know when and why he boobytrapped the car.

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It felt odd that Bishop killed both Harry and Steven. Steven was the avenger, but got screwed in the end because of a super roll Bishop performed. I would've preferred that Bishop really did burn in that fire.

On the other hand, maybe Bishop loses in the end with the film ending anyways. Now he has the guilt of killing both Harry and Steven looming over his head, plus his house is burned down along with his car on top of that.

Either one works if you think about it, I guess.



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Arthur didn't kill Bishop. He killed himself by going "revenge".
He told Bishop not to touch the disc player and that they would never ride the car together. So Arthur knew exactly what would Bishop do if he "killed" him.
Seems that people here pay attention just to the action scenes and not to the conversations between Arthur and Bishop.


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Last 15 minutes of the movie were complete garbage, like they just ran out of money.

"What's the most you've ever lost in a coin toss?......"

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You should pay more attention yourself. You do realize that Arthur and Bishop were the same person, don't you? The name of Statham's character was Arthur Bishop.


ALL HAIL THE HIGH QUEEN!!!!!

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LOL. And that is the problem. Very few people pay attention to the details that count. If you can't even get the character's name right, then you most likely are not going to get the movie right either. Again, that is why the original should always be watched first or familiarize yourself with the story if it is based on a novel.

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Actually, that's not really necessary. I neither watched the original nor familiarized myself with what the film was about before I watched the film. The remake made it quite clear that Arthur and Bishop were the same person. All one has to do is just watch it and pay attention.


ALL HAIL THE HIGH QUEEN!!!!!

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Wow One Man Army. I was not arguing with your or trying to argue with you. I was agreeing with you. Did you completely miss that point in my post? Yes, I brought up the original and familiarizing yourself with the story as backup, but I also made a point to agree with you about paying attention to details. Calm down. You do not have to be on the defensive when someone agrees with you.

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I wasn't on the defensive, though now I am. I was simply pointing out that watching the original and familiarizing yourself with the story is not necessary. How is that being on the defensive?


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It is being on the defensive, because you are finding reasons to argue, even when someone is agreeing with you. I am not going to argue with you. I was trying to agree with your original post, but it doesn't sound like you care either way, you just want an argument, and I am not one to cater to that. So this will be my last post on the topic, since you are working yourself up over nothing.

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In my first reply to you, i was NOT finding any reason to argue with you whatsoever. How in the world do you get that idea? It's simply insane. It is your second reply to me that was trying to find reason to argue. In my first reply to you, ALL I said is that watching the original film and familiarizing yourself with the story is not necessary to understand that they were the same person. That is ALL I said. That is NEITHER being on the defensive NOR finding reasons to argue. The ONLY one trying to find any reasons to argue here is you. What's wrong with you?

Here is EXACTLY what I said word for word.
"Actually, that's not really necessary. I neither watched the original nor familiarized myself with what the film was about before I watched the film. The remake made it quite clear that Arthur and Bishop were the same person. All one has to do is just watch it and pay attention."
There is absolutely NOTHING there that is defensive or starting an argument. It's absolutely insane that you think there is.


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I wasn't disappointed with the ending.

A lot of people complain, in regards to action movies, that the endings are predictable, and the reason the endings of most action movies are predictable is because the general public wants the "good" or "better" guy to win, and that is what the film-makers usually portray. So it seems like people often criticize action movies for being too predictable and that it's unreasonable for the protagonist to always win (seriously, how often can John McClane kill a group of terrorists and survive), but when they do something a little bit unpredictable or unconventional, such as killing off the good or better guy in the end, it still gets the same people upset because they actually want that type of predictability. It's as if some viewers want the predictable AND the unpredictable. Also, there's only so many surprises you can put into a straight-up action movie -- in many action movies, going against the grain is in itself predictable -- so I don't mind that the movie attempts to give a slightly different ending than what some viewers may have preferred or predicted.

The other argument is that an ending like this might actually be more realistic. The general focus of this film is about professional killers and the people who work with them or hire them. In the world of hired killers in real life, I'm assuming that the "good," "better," or even more sympathetic guys don't always prevail and that often times, the last person standing is just the better killer. As much as Foster's Steve character improved in the field of killing, Statham's Arthur is shown throughout the movie that he's an extremely intelligent, planned, and skilled killer. I think the ending is probably more reasonable in having Arthur "beat" Steve.

Of course, I'm not speaking for the writers/director of this movie (or the writers/director of the original The Mechanic) when I say all this. Maybe they really just did it because Statham never loses in his movies. Maybe they just did it because they wanted the option of creating a sequel, and Statham is much more equipped at being the lead of an action movie (and based on The Transporter and Crank series, he's open to sequels).

Whatever the reason for the ending, I don't think there was a prevalent enough direction or tone to the movie to lead to one specific end, so as long as they'd have done it well enough (which I think they did with the existing ending), I'd have been fine with just about any variation of the end, except maybe Arthur and Steve killing each other (that may be the only ending that I'd have disliked).

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nah i think the ending was pretty decent. he gave him a chance but the pansy thought he could take on statham. lol. it ended the way it should have.
IN THE END THERE WILL BE ONLY CHAOS

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Man, this movie is called "Mechanic" for a reason I guess. The ending with Ben Forster toasted instead of Statham is actually a bit refreshing, if not a little overdone in the attempt to differentiate itself from other bunch of actioners.

The idea is simple, there are no good guys in this movie. Though Bishop was as thirsty as Steve to avenge Harry the old-good contract killer, Bishop is the real pro with the whole thing well thought out. If watched closely, one should notice that Bishop was reluctant to recruit Steve because the later's a loose cannon(or maybe Bisshop judges there will be too much unexpected consequences including moral hazards). Even after the recruitment, Steve is still the one who regularly disobeys instructions/orders or screws up some details during missions. My vote is that Bishop soon realized that he shouldn't have tied the avenge with help nursing/training Steve anyway. After they shot the main bad guy Dean into a honeybee's nest near the end of the movie, Bishop was finally seriously considering making Steve a true apprentice/family member. Yet, as Steve attempted to kill him, the logical conclusion is no. Not only for the reason that the kid wanted the one who pulled the trigger Bishop dead, but also for the reason that he's too naive/volatile that he will nver make a true professional to be called "Mechanic" like Bishop.

On the other hand, as the other users have pointed out, Steve "practically doesn't give a *beep* as he himself said it. In his reckless personality, he may become a great marksman, a first-class CQC user and even a good strategist, but he will never match up to Bishop's integrated quality, as he took things totally personal and didn't follow rules(i.e. trying to kill his mentor. By the way I've read some martial arts novels but the first and foremost test an apprentice need to take is how the face the temptation of killing his/her master.)Still, one can say he died in the end of the movie because he's incompetent in many ways, like ignoring the booty traps, failing to double-check if Bishop really was killed, etc.



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