I thought Aoi Miyazaki as Hachi in the first movie was perfect, but they changed the actress to Yui Ichikawa for the second movie and she wasn't good, in my opinion. Also, in the first movie, they cast the guy who plays L in Death Note as Shin and he's in his 20s! so that was bad, but they changed him to a 15 year old Hongo Kanata who is so adorable in the second movie, he was perfect.
Nana was the same in both movies, Mika Nakashima did very well, I like her. I like Hiroki Narimiya (the guy who played Nobu) but not AS Nobu, he didn't look anything like the anime. And the guy who played Ren in the first one - omg no. Ren's supposed to be really hot then you see that guy and it's like ...huh?!? The second movie Ren was a liiiittle bit better, but he wasn't in it much anyway, I barely remember him.
Everyone else was all right. I liked their choices for Reira and Takumi a lot.
/my casting expertise lol
I watched both movies online here http://www.mysoju.com/nana/ and when you're done with the first, you can just search on that site for Nana 2 and it's there.
No, of course they don't make out, they're not lesbians.. They're best friends. Taking a bath together doesn't mean they're into each other that way lol sorry.
I dono, I just pick random animes from animeresult.com, there are lots there. I've watched Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Bleach, Death Note, Trigun, Outlaw Star, AirGear, Witch Hunter Robin, Wolf's Rain, Tenchi Muyo, Gundam Wing, Sailor Moon, Fushigi Yuugi, DragonBall, FLCL, Inuyasha, YuYu Hakusho. I just started Buso Renkin, seen some of Eureka 7, Ghost in the Shell, Rurouni Kenshin, and a few other anime movies - so any of those, if you haven't seen them, I like them =)
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gudoleboy2
15 years ago
Okay I remember now, I haven't seen the second one. I also remember someone was telling me Nana wasn't going to come back for the second film. The reason was she didn't want to lose weight and keep a strict diet to play the role. I'm glad the Mika is still in it, though. She looks just like the anime, although she's not as energetic as the anime character. And yeah, I remember L being in the movie. He was too big for the role. I remember not getting over how big his head was in that movie...lol.
And thanks for the link, I'm going to check it out. I hope it's good.
Also, Hachi and Nana don't have to be lesbians to make-out. Though Nana likes guys, she seems like she wouldn't care if a girl kissed her. That's why she had no problem planting one on Hachi. And Hachi often wished she could be like her b/c of her attitude and beauty. I think she was subconsciously attracted to her b/c of those two qualities. If it would have happened in the series, it wouldn't have been a huge stray from their character.
And you gave me a huge list of animes to choose from!! Which one/ones is/are your favorite(s)? I've seen Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo.
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RoseOnyxis
15 years ago
I heard Aoi wasn't going to play Hachi in the second movie 'cause of scheduling problems. *shrug* Either way, the second Hachi isn't as good in my opinion, but she wasn't bad. About Shin - YES! Lol, he was HUGE, and I'm thinking of skinny little Shin in the anime haha I thought it was funny. The guy for Shin in the second movie is perfect though, right age, great look but there isn't enough of him in the movie =(
I know they don't have to be lesbians to make out, girls make out for attention all the time, but that to me would go against both of the Nanas personalities. They kiss like friends, but they're not going to make out for no reason. They're like sisters, I don't see any making out in their future, sorry lol.
Yeah, it is a rather long list huh lol sorry. Umm.. Death Note is good (but you seem to have seen that right?). If you like Bebop, I think you'd like Trigun, though it's more upbeat, and Outlaw Star - if you can find it, watch that too, it's bounty hunter kinda stuff, but it's not on that website I linked you to. Probably can find it on YouTube.
Other short ones are Wolf's Rain, I like it a lot. Witch Hunter Robin was pretty good too, but you have to wait quite a while before there's much character development. AirGear was cool, though it's a little more kid-y than the others. FLCL (aka Fooly Cooly) is bizarre, short, and fun lol.
So check those out =) They're under 40 episodes.
A lot of the other animes on my list are very long. I watch Bleach every week, it's still an ongoing show, up to 194 episodes, but if you're an anime addict like I am, I suggest watching it and catchin up =)
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gudoleboy2
15 years ago
I finished watching part 2. It was pretty good. A lot better than the first one!...even with the *beep* up plot. Hachiko sleeping with Takumi and marrying him. *shakes head* Why did she do that dumb *beep* Oh yeah, that's right... b/c women like jerks, lol. That was my one peeve that I had with the anime/movie..... Hachiko and Takumi's hookup. Dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb!!! Why?
But besides that, the movie was good. There seemed like there was much better acting in this one than the first one. The characters were cast well and I like the new Hachi better than the old one. She looked more like the anime character. I still think they could have done better, but she was still a better pick than Aoi Miyazaki, IMO. And the teenage "male escort" (Shin) looked spot on. They got it right this time.
And as far as Hachiko and Nana's relationship, they didn't' seem like sisters to me. When Hachi left to go live with Takumi, Nana cried her head off...like she got dumped or something. She was possessive of her, she wanted her all to herself, that's why she cried. Didn't she call Hachi her pet at one time? It might have started off as a joke, but it later turned into feelings. Towards the end of the movie, Takumi said to Nana, "It was you that stole my woman from me." At the same time, I'm not saying they wanted each other in a lesbian type way. However, if Hachi would have kissed Nana, she wouldn't have been upset about it.
Anyways, yeah.... I've seen Death Note. Very good movie and anime!! Are any of the animes you listed, Mech? I'm a little tired of Mech animes. I've seen Neon Genesis Evangelion, Code Geass, and tried giving Gurren Lagann a try, but I've had enough of Mech anime. I think I might give Wolf Rain a try.
And how can you watch an anime with so many episodes??!! I'm not making fun of you, I'm wondering how can you do it. I just can not take all the fillers and the never ending....ending(?). A show is suppose to have an ending, not carry on forever. That's why I'll never be able to get into Naruto and others. The longest series I've watched was, Full Metal Alchemist. That show took up all my time while watching it b/c I kept clicking on the next episode to see what happens next. Do you know what I mean?
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RoseOnyxis
15 years ago
I was in, and still am kind of, in a relationship like Nana-Hachi with one of my best friends and we definitely are not going to be making out any time. We were living together and we both had boyfriends, but she ended up ditching me and moving away with hers and it really hurt me because we weren't together anymore. And now she has a baby with him so it's the same situation; I know how Nana feels. I view my friend as part of my family and I don't want her to get hurt, I want to keep her safe.
It's a long running theme in the story that everyone views Hachi as a loyal dog, that's one of the reasons why they call her Hachiko (Hachiko is a famous story of a very loyal dog in Japan). And it is also a long running thing that Nana acts more like a guy than a girl and that she is very possesive of Hachi, but again, no making out. My other best friends is pretty possesive of me, but again, in that relationship, we're not going to make out.
Guys just think differently than girls, I think you just really want them to make out lol There are small pecks on the lips and kisses on the cheek in relationships like that, but definitely no making out.
I just didn't think Yui was pretty enough to be Hachi, and her acting wasn't as good as Aoi's. Hongo was PERFECT as Shin, I love him, I was so happy the recast him. I love Kenichi, but not as Shin.
I didn't mind Hachi having sex with Takumi, that's fine, but don't suddenly dump Nobu and marry Takumi without even telling Nobu or explaining anything, and her not telling anyone about the baby, and deciding to keep it, and Nana being so distant and UGH it was just too much for me. That's when I had to stop and go find the end of the manga 'cause it was so depressing and frustrating that I wasn't even going to continue watching it if things didn't turn out well. But alas, the story's not finished yet so we still dono the ending, and I watched the rest of the anime anyway. Sigh.
No, I'm not a big fan of mech anime (I've never heard that term before). Outlaw Star is set in space.. but I don't think I'd call it mech. I haven't seen it in a while, but it's a bounty hunter kind of thing. Wolf's Rain is definitely not mech, you should watch that one.
For me, long animes are the same as watching live action shows on television like Supernatural, or Charmed, House... they're all very long and have many seasons and lots of people watch them *shrug* Once you get caught up, Bleach comes out every week, so you can't just keep clicking, you have to wait. But yeah, while I was getting caught up, I spent like a week, just watching it for hours upon hours. But I like it 'cause I don't have anything else to do so it keeps me busy and entertained.
Man, these replies just keep getting longer and longer -_-;;
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gudoleboy2
15 years ago
Damn. I think I finally understand why you're so bummed out about this anime. You're friend left you like in the series. The situations in the anime and what you've told me about your life is freakishly similar. And you're 20 like the two Nanas? You're screen name begins with Rose...and what's the name of the opening theme to "Nana,"? Wow! I imagine it's like watching your life unfold on tv. Was this friend possive of you, or was it the other way around?
Maybe this song might cheer you up.... or maybe it won't. Not sure... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OilDo34YUPQ... It's by Mika (Nana), she recorded it in *Memphis,Tennessee*. Can you believe that?!! It's gospel meets...ummmm...Japan? I'm assuming she traveled all the way to Tennessee to get a real gospel choir. You can hear them in the background towards the end. It's a really good song, especially if you listen to it a couple of times over. It's the ending theme for Blood+. Maybe you've seen it?
And I know what it's like to watch some *beep* you're going through on screen. I seen a movie a few months ago where it was like watching what I went through in my life. I kept calling the main character an idiot b/c he kept messing up like me and he wouldn't change course. I was shaking my head through the whole film b/c he went down the same road I went down.
I actually did the same thing you did, I stopped watching midway through. I eventually finished watching and he managed to pull off what I couldn't in real life: he got his girl back. The name of the movie was, "I'm Through With White Girls," lol. It sounds a little offensive but the movie really isn't. It was directed by a woman and I think written by one as well. I'm not going to get into the details about which parts I can relate. (I started a thread here that explains all that.)
And it seems we're just divided on this "making out" thing. You're probably right: I probably just want to see them make out. However, if I went through the series again, I could probably come up with a list that supports what I'm saying.
And "mech" anime are series with those big mechanical fighting robots. There's so many of these types of anime. I got to the point where I was like, "Not another mech anime!!"
And yeah these replies are getting long.... and personal too. I'm thinking may be I should have emailed you here at IMDB, instead. I really thought my post were longer than yours, until I did a word count on the last couple of posts, using MS Word. You beat me!
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RoseOnyxis
15 years ago
Yeah, it was just really weird to watch this anime and at first it's like "Hey me too, cool!" to "Woah, same thing here.." then it's just like "...Do they have cameras in my apartment 'cause the similarities are freaky" heh -_-;; Without going into detail, I guess I'm more possessive of her than she is of me. Not so much now though.
A lot of Japanese singers come to America to record and stuff, Gackt does all the time, and a lot of them have members of American bands record with them sometimes, like Anna Tsuchiya (the singer they used for Nana in the anime) used people from A Perfect Circle and Beck's bands to record one of her albums. I listen to a lot of Jpop/Jrock. If you like Rose, you should youtube more of Anna's songs, she did an album for Nana, and so did Olivia Lufkin who was the singing voice for Reira. Good stuff.
It was a nice song. She has an interesting voice, though I've never been a big fan of her music, some of it is not bad. I've seen a few episodes of Blood+, it's all right.
Yeah, I just call those animes 'giant robot' animes lol The only one I really like is Gundam Wing.
Yeah, well you could tell me your myspace, maybe I'll add you? At least this poor board is getting some use because of us.
~Shari
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gudoleboy2
15 years ago
haha...you're funny! That was funny, the comment you made about the Mech animes...haha.
And I think I'm going to start calling you Nana-chan. That name suits you, seeings how the series was damn near about your life. So I hope you like Nana-chan b/c it's going to be your new name. :D
And I hope you get your friend back.
I know a little something about A Perfect Circle. I have their song, "3 Libras" saved to my youtube account..haha. It's a cool song; it's very....mellow! They sound like another group, but I just can't seem to put my finger on who they sound like. I've never heard any of their other songs. I just know the one song that I like. What's Jpop/Jrock??
About the myspace quetion: here's the thing, I'm incredibly good-looking/charming, but also on the opposite side of the country from you. I wouldn't want all that to frustrate you. You'll see my page and become real attracted to me, but then you'll see that I live on the east coast. So that might get you all frustrated and stuff. I just feel so sorry that you been through so much, I wouldn't want to put you through anymore frustration. I mean.... does this sound like something you would want to go through??.... haha...naw, I'm just *beep* with you!
I'll send you a link (next time I'm on there)...and "maybe" you'll add me on myspace... Maybe, huh?? What do you mean, what's that all about? IMDB is fine, if you don't want to do myspace. I understand you're strict about adding guys. Okay, Nana-chan?
Also...... remember when I was talking about Nana and Hachi's "relationship," well if you search a couple of post down on this forum, you'll see some one started a thread about it. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0471834/board/flat/71242610?p=1 It seems I'm not the only one who felt this way.
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RoseOnyxis
15 years ago
*shrug* you can call me that if you want.
APC is one of my very favorite bands. They sometimes sound like Tool because it's the same singer in both bands so maybe that's who you're thinking of. Jpop and Jrock is Japanese music. Japanese-pop, Japanese-rock.
I just don't want to suddenly find out that you're like 50 years old or something, after I've told you I'll add you lol sorry if you actually are...
I know you're not the only person who felt like Nana and Hachi should makeout, a lot of ppl, a lot of guys, think like that and I just don't agree. I have my own opinion about it, them making out doesn't make sense. This person said it best:
Thats simply the american over-interpretation...they're not more than friends at all. though they do love each other in more than just friendly ways...they are obsessed with each other. It feels sort of like man-woman love, but its more parallel to it..they have NO sexual attraction, they just want to protect each other and be with each other...theres no bi-sexual or lesibian love, only funny references to it.
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gudoleboy2
15 years ago
Naw, I'm not 50.... that would be real creepy; a fifty year old emailing you. (It's as creepy as Diddy asking Cassie to marry him. Not sure if you've heard of that.) However, I am older than you, I'm 26.
And it can't be Tool b/c I have never heard of Tool. Maybe it's Staind or somebody. (Actually they don't sound too much like Staind.) I know they sound like somebody, though... I'll let you know when I figure it out.
I read that post when I posted the link. The person is kind of agreeing but at the same time kind of disagreeing with me. The person is a little confused about Nana's and Hachi's relationship, "..they're not more than friends at all. though they do love each other in more than just friendly ways.." He/she says they do love each other in more than just friendly ways.... well there you have it, that's more than friends. Anyways, it doesn't really matter b/c nothing ever happened between them in the anime.
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RoseOnyxis
15 years ago
Oh, 26 is fine, I'll add you if you give me your link.
I don't think the person is confused at all, I understand exactly what they're saying and it is very difficult to word it. They're not lovers, they're best friends, and she/he is right, they are kind of obsessed with each other but it is not in a sexual way. I don't think I've ever heard of this kind of friendship between 2 guys, it's mostly a female thing and I guess I can't expect many guys to understand it. But girls don't make out with each other because they care for each other. That would be for lesbians, which Nana and Hachi are not. Yes, girls who are not lesbians do make out with each other in certain situations, usually to get attention from guys, but that is not the case with Nana and Hachi. And with that said, I'm done with that topic 'cause I don't know how else to explain it.
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gudoleboy2
15 years ago
You can check your IMDB email, I just sent you the link. I sent you an email a while ago, I dunno if you ever got that one or not. Anyway, now you can see you've been talking to. I think that's the main purpose of me giving you the link to my profile. You might be surprised...or you might not.
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