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Should've ended when the elevator doors close


...and the guy is left screaming in the other room. There was no reason to show Ava walking through the house, getting picked up by the chopper (which raised questions that have been discussed on the board, most importantly, how did the pilot just agree to it and not find it at all suspicious?) and just being out in the city. I really liked the movie, and the scene where she's getting in the elevator would've given us all the relevant information at just the right note to conclude everything, but the outro after that almost ruined it for me.

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I somewhat agree with you. I don't think the additional scenes ruined anything, but they were somewhat unnecessary. When watching it, I actually wondered if we would get to see whether Ava would free Caleb or leave him trapped. I believe it would have worked well to end the movie before that. But that would be a different movie, and the actual ending also works well.

Regarding the chopper pilot, I found it believable that she was picked up without questions, when you think about the extreme security measures around Nathans estate. It could be that the pilot was simply told to pick up a person there and not be given more information than that.

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Or she could have murdered the helicopter pilot.

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I also agree. Sometimes less is more.

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Why do you support laziness?

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I disagree here because those scenes were pivotal in understanding Ava. Without those scenes we could clearly state that Ava was the antagonist all along and that the entirety of her dialogue was a game between herself and Nathan and nothing more. Instead what we see is glimmers of truth to the sentiments that she used to manipulate Caleb She brushes the wildlife and looks about in wonder. She takes the helicopter to a metropolitan area and stands in a crowded street observing the people. They were scenes deliberately written to tell us that Ava wasn't entirely a lie; that she wasn't some rogue AI hellbent on overpowering her human overlords who went full Skynet the moment she got free. She was designed to pass as human and that is what she wanted, and that was what she got. Agreed, sometimes less is" more" and that's why the scenes were necessary: because less would have implied the wrong "more."

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Great answer!

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Yes - somehow it's the real birth of Ava - getting out into the world. And its a nice cycle too - you see the young programmer, he travels, he does not invent Ava, but he sets her free - and it's not him who returns but she.

After all it is a movie about Ava and the film is called ex machina. But I also was surprised that the movie went on as the elevetor part was so strong. And it seems hat quite some were overwhelmed that they did not sufficiently realise the incredible message of what comes after. Maybe it would have needed just a bit more fine tuning.

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Here's a good article that talks about exactly that, and includes the Director's comments on that point of view:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Ex-Machina-Ending-Debate-Movie-3-Minutes-Too-Long-71101.html

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Thanks for the link Dennerman :)

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Agree 100%
I was blown away at that moment expecting credits. The rest was fine too but yeah...that's where i would've called final cut.

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Why do you support laziness?

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I 100% agree. First time I watched it, the elevator scene was so intense with the music flaring, and the realization of what was happening and how Ava didn't care about him at all. The extra bit seemed completely unnecessary. I watched it for the 2nd time last week and feel even more strongly about it now.

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Agree, it should be up to the viewers' imagination. Instead there were questions raised about how she even found the helicopter, knew where to go when she got out and how she paid for it. Or what her plan was, or if she even had one. At least someone will likely rescue Caleb given all of his co-workers will be dying to know how his week was, and will find it strange that neither him nor the most important person in the company aren't responding to e-mails/texts, etc. It was a reclusive facility but not Fort Knox. Obviously someone delivers food (and liquor!). Ava seems destined to wander until her power runs out. Its not as if she comes with an AC cord, her power was based out of Nathan's facility....which begs the question what Caleb's plan was if they managed to get out together.

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I liked the extra bits after the elevator. The movie was already essentially over at that point, so every new shot felt precious, you knew it was going to end at any moment. Seeing her experience outdoor nature was a mix of wonder, and the dread of knowing that he was back there slowly dying in the compound she left behind. Watching her get on the helicopter was confirmation that she made it to civilization, and it made total sense since the pilot was probably just given instructions to transport whoever was waiting at that location no questions asked. The final shot of her standing amongst people was short, and hit just the right note for me.

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