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Cast Your Vote: Government Conspiracy or Insanity?


How many people think there was a government conspiracy and/or that the bugs were real?

How many think it was all in the heads of the main characters, who were self-medicating/off their meds, respectively?

Bonus Question: Was Lloyd real, or did Agnes make him up?

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my friends brother is crazy, he really thinks the gov't is out to get him, he won't go on planes and he thinks theres some kind of tracking device in his body.




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As the saying goes, "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean that they're not really after me."

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Should our health care system be doing more to make sure paranoid schizophrenics are safe to themselves and others by watching over them 24 hours a day?

Yes, we need to monitor these people to make sure they're safe -- hide cameras everywhere they go -- in the streets, in their homes, in the eyes of people at the convenient stores where they shop...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzoXQKumgCw

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I like this question. They were both obviously very, very sick in the head.

Now dont quote me but they never actually established why doctors were treating him etc. My guess he became trama victim due to his experience in the military where then the doctors tried to help hence why he was shipped back home for medical attention. He starts to build a conspiracy in his own head because he is heavily medicated and most likely was a bit crazy even before the military.

Now the reason for his insanity could be due to the military/government but as for the bugs, hell have you ever seen a crack head think they were infested with bugs. They will scratch the skin off of their body trying to get rid of these "bugs" that are not even there.

The only thing I thought was weird is how he got introduced to her. The girl who introduced her acted as if she knew him because she wanted he friend to meet him. They show up at her house, heavy drinking and drug usage begins, you hardly see him until see leaves. After that the two crazy people are left to mingle and begin their short lived love affair of insanity.

So Im going to go with the fact they were both fu**** in the head and once she felt the connection with him she isolated herself and they both fed off of each others issues and problems and there it goes. They were so high half the time they most likely couldnt even see anything in the damn microscope lol

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Snungster: I enjoyed your post. I agree with you that the film didn’t clarify why, or even if, Peter was actually being treated by the military for anything, or even if he was actually ever in the military; and if he was in the military than he was probably mentally ill prior to his service. I also thought R.C. bringing Peter to Aggie’s room and then leaving him there was very odd indeed. However, I think that was probably just an awkward place in the script - “Hmmm…how do we get Peter to Aggie’s room?” LOL

I do not think that Peter's mental illness had anything directly to do with the government or the military. If he is suffering from PTSD, post-traumatic stress disorder, the symptoms are greatly different from the way he acted in the film. I believe that Peter is suffering from the mental illness of paranoia

My brother has a close friend of over 25 years who has always been anti-government and believes in government conspiracies, but just over two years ago she reached the point where she became openly paranoid. She now refuses to leave her apartment, will no longer use a telephone, cell phone, television, computer, or even listen to music because “they” are watching, listening, and trying to implant things in her head and so forth. It is heartbreaking. They are wealthy and can afford the best care, but she refuses to see any type of doctor and her husband will not commit her to a hospital.

She lives next door to my brother and he says that every day her attitude and demeanor are different. When he does manage to see her, she may be hateful, secretive, distrustful, crying, or will whisper to him about the people who are out to get her. Often she will not open her door. On occasion he will see his old friend, as she used to be. It is very, very sad. If she lived alone I have no doubt she could easily end up, in her own way, like Peter.

Peter is probably suffering from persecutory delusions or may be a paranoid schizophrenic or may have a paranoid personality disorder (credit here to Wikipedia - I’m certainly not a psychiatrist!). A lot of the film is viewed through either Peter’s or Aggie's point of view, although the director doesn't make that obvious. For instance, I wondered about the helicopter at first, the bugs, and Aggie's son, but once I realized they were both feeding off of Peter's paranoia I settled back to enjoy the ride. What fun!


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total insanity.

one of my favorite movies ever.

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Nobody thinks it was a conspiracy. And I'm glad it wasn't, because that crap is getting old. I prefer the movie to be about serious insanity.

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I feel like the first story he told her about being experimented on and all that was probably true, and the government was actually responsible (at least in part) for his insanity. When he was babbling about government conspiracies, some of the things he talked about were very much real.

The question could be posed, did the government intentionally "program" him to believe the things he did, and use him as some kind of experiment, allowing him to think he was being hunted, while in reality they knew exactly where he was and what he was doing?

There are a lot of unanswered questions with this film, and a lot of things you could sit and discuss for literally hours on end. In the end, I feel like it is a "poison the well" film, meaning its intent is to make people think that anyone who believes in "conspiracy theories" must be insane or unstable. If it weren't for that, I would have rated it higher.


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That well's been that way for a long time. As is the case with every group of people, the craziest are always the loudest. One can take these message boards as evidence of that. I know there are many, many, rational and reasonable "conspiracy theorists," but when one asks the average person about them, the ones that rant and rave (no matter how small a minority they may be) are the first to come to mind.

You make an interesting point, and one I had not thought about. Thank you for that!

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lol.... Another conspiracy nutjob..

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"How many people think there was a government conspiracy and/or that the bugs were real?"

The two main characters were clearly delusional...but not necessarily about everything. Take the Doctor Sweet character; its just not plausible that in the year 2006, the audience for a serious, adult-oriented film would be expected to believe that a well-intentioned mental health professional was tracking that ex-soldier across the country for his own good. Lunatic homeless people freeze to death fifty feet from a police station, yet this guy is so deeply concerned about the welfare of some nut? What about all the other nuts? No, society simply doesn't work like that, and hasn't for about 40 years. Dr. Sweet clearly had someone else's best interests at heart ie., those of his employer, the government.


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I agree something had clearly happenbed to him to justify him being tracked down that way

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He was Insane, if any of you had a friend or relative that had a metal illness you would know that,

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I can't believe any viewer would see this and think that the movie implies that there was an actual conspiracy. The main characters were completely bonkers.

And Lloyd was real - her ex-husband acknowledges his existence if I remember correctly.


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Total insanity.

Even the bugs were real (they are not), these two people would not wig out and immolate themselves unless they were bat s**t crazy.




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Lloyd was real, and they had definitely been fucking with Peter through experiments, or frying his brain on meds.

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I thought this movie was cool when it came out but I don't remember it well enough to explain what happened. However, I will say what I've always said about Inception. If it was a dream, it wouldn't have been a very interesting movie. You can do anything in a dream.

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That's a good point! I guess that why so many people are getting sick of the old "It was all a dream" shtick.

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If they are dealing with mental illness it's still real IMO. The characters' delusions may not be real, but their actions and the consequences of these actions are very real.

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