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Boycott and Protests Already in Motion


Mocks and demeans the Christian faith, its members, and its founder in the person of our Lord Jesus Christ. The only thing networks respect is advertising dollars. Vote with your pocketbook and boycott NBC sponsors. For more information on how to become active go to
http://www.afa.net/

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no!
why should i?
why should anyone do as you say?
you are judging it without seeing it
get a life!
are you aware you sound like a crazy religious nutcase?
or is that just me judging you without trying to understand you
doubt it

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How do you know this show mocks and demeans anyone? Have you seen it? And why do you have to boycott it? Why can't others who do not share your views be allowed to enjoy it if they wish?

I'll never understand how people who profess to love and know God can so single-mindedly try to force their views down the throats of everyone else. The US was founded on the belief that you can practice your faith but you can't force me to practice it. You can have your beliefs but you can't force me agree. You can define your God, but you cannot define mine.

How funny that I, a non-Christian, is so much more accepting and forgiving than you appear to be. When did being "Christian" stop being part of the fundamentalist mentality?

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The true nature of Jesus Christ, who and what he is and what he offers everyone as a free gift is found in the book of 1 John, not on a TV show. The book of 1 John is on line at: http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=Kjv1Joh.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=1&division=div1

Speaking up and defending one's sincerely held beliefs does not make them a nut. Boycotts follow an honored American tradition of non-violent protest dating back to the founding fathers and continuing up to Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King and Caesar Chavez. God bless America and MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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tell me, how in the HELL could you have seen the first two episodes?! it doesn't even air until January you nut-case! stop trying to show off by telling everyone you've seen it!

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It's funny how Christians are often called "blind." I would say the opposite is true and that Satan has blinded you. But, of course you would never see that until you turn to Christ and see the truth.

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It's funny how Christians are often called "blind." I would say the opposite is true and that Satan has blinded you. But, of course you would never see that until you turn to Christ and see the truth.

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"Boycotts follow an honored American tradition of non-violent protest dating back to the founding fathers and continuing up to Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King and Caesar Chavez"

They were also for something worth taking the time for boycotting back in the day. Now, groups like the idiotic AFA boycott at the drop of a hat over so many silly things like a television show that people have stopped paying attention.

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OK, so what's the speed of dark?

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This show absolutely and without a doubt mocks the Bible. And all you commenters that dont see that... perhaps it is because you dont know what the book of Daniel is about. Well guess what... nothing in the commercials is anywhere close! In fact some of the comments are totally false! I cant believe someone would think this is pro-Christian! What a fool! I cant believe that anyone that actually has a personal relationship with Christ would not want to stand up for what is true! And fight for what is right... How this will effect the world... people thinking that they are hearing truth because after all it is coming from the Bible, when in all reality they are being decieved! Sickening!

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ack. i had to read damn Doctorow in my Writing for Social Change class..
we all hated him. lol

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Actually Christians have a very good sense of humor. We just do it without offending anyone else.

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Oh for heaven's sake. Jews have a great sense of humour. Christians - and I come from a family off them - would rather laugh at anyone else rather than question themselves with humour.

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Actually the kind of so-called Christian you are does quite a lot of offending. It's just that none of you seem to care becuase you believe that God actually backs up your narrow minded thinking.

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Do what you want. The AFA certainly showed how powerful it was during their latest protest against Ford ... oh, wait, that's right, Ford reversed their decision after realizing that people with open minds have MUCH MORE OPEN WALLETS!!!

Protest, boycott, do it all. It won't matter. The only thing that will take this show down is if it sucks.

What? A "practicing homosexual" is writing the show? I betcha he doesn't have to practice anymore. I betcha by now he knows what he's doing.

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It saddens me that, instead of getting to the point of the original thread, people feel the need to put down the beliefs of others. Why don’t we get right to the point, the original thread, which was about boycotting NBC and/or writing to afa to get “The Book of Daniel” taken off the air?

I hope all of you will agree with me, in that it’s normally pretty easy to discern the general flavor of a show or movie by its previews. That’s the purpose of a good trailer.

Even though this show hasn’t been officially aired yet, I think that most Christians’ concerns are that, not only will their beliefs will be mocked, but the life style of their religious leaders will be mocked as well. Not to mention the fact that drugs and homosexuality will be a main part of this “religiously overtoned” show. Christians believe that their bodies are temples and (generally) believe that the Bible denounces the practice of homosexuality. And just to make this clear, this tread is NOT about whether drugs or homosexuality is right, I’m only making a statement of general belief for Christians. I’m just saying it’s not the kind of entertainment that the Christian faith wants to be a part of. I really believe that the our dislike for this show stems out of the fear of becoming further associated with bad stereotypes, i.e. all ministers are struggling to lead their congregations and their families, the children of religious leaders always rebel against the strict rules of their faith, Jesus is an anglo-saxon, hippie type of guy, etc. While some of these points may be true in certain circumstances, they do NOT describe a typical Christian family.

It is our right as citizens of a democratic nation to be able to say we DISLIKE something, just as it is someone else’s right to say that they LIKE it. If you think you’ll like the show, then fine! Write to NBC and tell them you support them! If you, like me, believe that this show will become fodder for the general public, giving off yet another stereotype for people to believe, then sign afa’s petition against the show! I am a minister’s daughter, and I resent the fact that anyone would make a show so off par as to the real life difficulties faced by religious leaders and their families who are put onto spiritual pedestals for congregations.

As far as I go, I do NOT want to push my beliefs on anyone. That obviously would drive anyone away. But so does saying things like this N2NY:::::
“I'll never understand how people who profess to love and know God can so single-mindedly try to force their views down the throats of everyone else. The US was founded on the belief that you can practice your faith but you can't force me to practice it. You can have your beliefs but you can't force me agree. You can define your God, but you cannot define mine.

How funny that I, a non-Christian, is so much more accepting and forgiving than you appear to be. When did being "Christian" stop being part of the fundamentalist mentality?”

I think that the statements you made were just as rude or possibly even ruder then johnzcomp’s original thread statement about the show. Johnzcomp’s thread might have been a little overbearing and lacking support for his statement, but you were arrogant and did not support yourself clearly. You instead, decided to take a swipe at the Christian faith. I think it is people like you, who think that anyone who disagrees with you is wrong, holds back our culture as a whole when it comes to the general understanding and acceptance of other people. I might not believe what you believe, but at least respect me and my fellow Christians by being civil.

I know I don’t speak for all Christians, but I am proud of my faith and who I am. I choose not to support this show and I encourage others who do not want to support it to log onto AFA’s website to send an email to the NBC chairman. At least make your voice heard.

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Yes because Christians have never put down any other belief out there. /sarcasm


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I choose to watch this show and give it a chance. Like Jesus, I am a liberal....and open-minded. People who condemn a show they haven't even seen are amazingly scared of accepting and understanding other people.

I feel sad people are worried about a TV show.....if more Christians acted like Jesus, loving and open, probably no one would take this show seriously. Unfortunately....

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you have no idea what Jesus was! do NOT EVER compare yourself to Him, because no human being will EVER be as great as Him, unless He Himself comes back again!

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"Not to mention the fact that drugs and homosexuality will be a main part of this “religiously overtoned” show"

Since when is programming all about the Christian viewer and nobody else? There are many religious gay people, for one thing, who may very well be interested in the show. What about their right? Oh, it doesn't jive with Christianity's majority, so forget them, correct?

"If you, like me, believe that this show will become fodder for the general public, giving off yet another stereotype for people to believe, then sign afa’s petition against the show!"

That's a laugh, concern over stereotyping and such. A majority of Christians in general love stereotyping the gay community. The AFA certainly goes ballistic with smear campaigns over the issue at every turn, yet YOU'RE concerned over stereotyping?

"It is our right as citizens of a democratic nation to be able to say we DISLIKE something"

But why is it your right to dictate what will air for other people to watch? Don't watch it if you have a problem with it, but these silly boycotts over the fact that the program doesn't cater to YOUR unique vision of things make me point and laugh. All you are doing is making another big stink over nothing.

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OK, so what's the speed of dark?

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"Even though this show hasn’t been officially aired yet, I think that most Christians’ concerns are that, not only will their beliefs will be mocked, but the life style of their religious leaders will be mocked as well. Not to mention the fact that drugs and homosexuality will be a main part of this “religiously overtoned” show. Christians believe that their bodies are temples and (generally) believe that the Bible denounces the practice of homosexuality. And just to make this clear, this tread is NOT about whether drugs or homosexuality is right, I’m only making a statement of general belief for Christians. I’m just saying it’s not the kind of entertainment that the Christian faith wants to be a part of. I really believe that the our dislike for this show stems out of the fear of becoming further associated with bad stereotypes, i.e. all ministers are struggling to lead their congregations and their families, the children of religious leaders always rebel against the strict rules of their faith, Jesus is an anglo-saxon, hippie type of guy, etc. While some of these points may be true in certain circumstances, they do NOT describe a typical Christian family."

Why should the show have to depict a "typical Christian family" in the first place? The very best movies and TV shows concern themselves with particular characters and situations. Would you prefer a show with characters who are nothing more than a summary of whatever you consider "typical?" Wouldn't that be boring?

As for your objection to homosexuality and drugs being involved in the plot, I would have to point out that homosexuality and drugs are a part of reality. Should a fictional show about Christian people ignore real-life conflicts simply because many Christians believe these elements are sinful? What if a character ever lied or got wraithful? Should plots revolving around anything anyone may perceive as a sin be avoided?

Sure, the show may end up taking a stance that homosexuality is ok, but you cannot deny that there are Christians who believe that. There are certainly practicing gay Christians, too.

Anyone who is offended by the show is free to avoid watching it, but the only purpose of a boycott would be to try and suppress the show. Trying to silence a show simply because you disagree with its arguments is immature.

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Interesting summary of the show from a right-wing conspiracy website called The Truth Seeker (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3974):

"On January 6, NBC will begin a new series entitled The Book of Daniel.

While the public has not seen the program, NBC is promoting "The Book of Daniel" as a serious drama about Christian people and the Christian faith. The main character is Daniel Webster, a drug-addicted Episcopal priest whose wife depends heavily on her mid-day martinis.

Webster regularly sees and talks with a very unconventional white-robed, bearded Jesus. The Webster family is rounded out by a 23-year-old homosexual Republican son, a 16-year-old daughter who is a drug dealer, and a 16-year-old adopted son who is having sex with the bishop's daughter. At the office, his lesbian secretary is sleeping with his sister-in-law.

NBC and the mainstream media call it "edgy," "challenging" and "courageous." The series is written by Jack Kenny, a practicing homosexual who describes himself as being "in Catholic recovery," and is interested in Buddhist teachings about reincarnation and isn't sure exactly how he defines God and/or Jesus. "I don't necessarily know that all the myth surrounding him (Jesus) is true," he said.
NBC considers The Book of Daniel a positive portrayal of Christ and Christians."


The above description appears to be completely accurate, and as such, I think most observant Christians would probably find the show to be totally offensive.

Perhaps in an ironic way this show is indicative of the current state of the Episcopal Church, which seems to be facing an inevitable schism over the issue of homosexuality. Though of course this show goes far beyond simply dealing with controversial issues and into the realm of comedic self-mockery. If the network was seriously interested in a religious drama, they would produce a serious show dealing with serious issues, and not going with a wildly over-the-top show such as this.

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